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Perhaps this article should mention some other prominent residents like author Patricia Grace, or poet Sam Hunt? Also, I have lots of photos of Porirua and suburbs that I will happily license in a free way for Wikipedia. I'll see what I can dig up this weekend, since there seem to be no pics on here at all... Karora 13:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the suburb of 'Mana, New Zealand' and I realise that this might be contentious for some people. It is difficult to know how to deal with the historical 'what is now called Mana used to be called Paremata', or the current 'all the maps show Paremata to the south of the bridges and Mana to the north' but I think it is necessary to follow current usage, in this case, and to cover the history of these areas in the 'History' parts... Unfortunately this means that the Paremata & Mana, New Zealand articles are kind of messy at present and need cleanup. Karora 08:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, the New Zealand supporters of the International Committee of the Fourth International are based in this city . . . 82.100.73.66 20:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I knew who those nameless people were, I could verify such a claim, but is it important? Certainly as someone who lives in Porirua there is no particularly obvious visibility. Karora 06:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Highest per-capita income?[edit]

I think that statement needs backing up (I've tagged it with citation-needed). I've done some research today on the Statistics NZ site, and the 2001 stats don't provide average income by territorial authority, while the 2006 census stats only seem to allow me to drill down to Region (Wellington Region comes out tops). Karora 04:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copying by slider.com[edit]

One version of this article was copied by slider.com saying it was copyright slider.com 2000-2008 or some such, adding that it was distributed under GFDL, but making no mention of Wikipedia. I've written to them asking about it. I think they copied a rather old version, this one or one soon after: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Porirua&oldid=8416235

Robin Patterson (talk) 11:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

McDonalds actually closed on the 24th April 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.44.22 (talk) 09:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ara Harakeke[edit]

I've added something about the Ara Harakeke pathway under the section 'Transport links'. This might be better placed in a section on 'Recreation', and I suggest that the paragraph be shifted once such a section gets set up. Schwede66 (talk) 22:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with State Planning in Porirua (1940-1970)[edit]

seems an intrinsic part of an article about the town--not meaningful separately DGG ( talk ) 03:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Further explanation (from my talk p.):
The general background of city planning and urban growth is covered by other articles: the content of this article is relevant to an encyclopedia either as an example to illustrate the principles, and therefore of interest to anyone concerned with the general topic, or as part of the history of the area. If it's an example, it would have to be justified because it is one of the standard examples used in teaching or discussing the subject,and I see primarily local references. To use it as an example makes this an essay--you are proposing this as an interesting illustration for general interest, and that's too close to Original research and synthesis for an encyclopedia. (What;s there is more like a class paper, a rather good one.) If it's of interest mainly in connection with the region it doesn't belong as a separate article.
One way of dealing with it is to expand the topic , into urban and regional planning in NZ. I think having such more general articles about various countries or regions might be quite justifiable, though we haven;t previous done that very much.But part of the problem is the title: "State planning" is a very general concept, usually meaning planning by a state for its overall economy. I think the usual term for your topic at least in the US would be regional planning. I see also the article State housing--which appears to be limited to NZ. I wonder if the usage of this term actually is specific to NZ. DGG ( talk ) 05:43, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

response by User:Rkwrkb[edit]

copied from my talk p. -- DGG.

I am a resident of Porirua city, a barrister and solicitor with a keen interest in New Zealand politics and political history.

Regarding your suggestion to merge the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Planning_in_Porirua_(1940-1970) with the main Porirua page: I disagree.

The State Planning page gives an insight into a particular political era in New Zealand, and the Porirua example of State Planning explains to many New Zealanders why their towns and cities look and behave the way that they do. Yes, this is part of the history of Porirua City specifically, but more broadly it's an insight into the political history of New Zealand.

Although we're a small country, and our cities are accordingly small also, for us, these two pages have two distinct purposes. Merging the one into the other would lose the impact of the real political story that is State Planning in New Zealand. Porirua just happens to be a great example of a state planned community - the location is not the story!

In addition to the historical example of Porirua, New Zealand has other examples of state planned settlement - but mostly in relation to trade or production needs, rather than, as in Porirua, a desire to plan a community. The most controversial would be the moving of the town of Cromwell to accommodate Lake Dunstan (part of a major political scheme of the 1980s known as 'Think Big') and the fully planned town of Twizel, built in the late 1960s to provide workers for a nearby hydroelectric scheme.

Forgive me if I've ranted on a little bit! To me there's a clear distinction between the purposes of the two pages, and merging them would be a loss to the pool of easily available historical New Zealand knowledge.

I'm happy to discuss this further :-) Rachel Rkwrkb (talk) 04:44, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned references in Porirua[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Porirua's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Carman":

  • From Tawa, New Zealand: Carman, A. H. (1956). Tawa Flat and the Old Porirua Road. Wright and Carman. p. 235. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  • From Tawa Flat deviation: Carman, A. H. (1956). Tawa Flat and the Old Porirua Road. Wright and Carman. p. 235. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Porirua Coat of Arms and Flag[edit]

I think that since there is a section regarding the Porirua Coat of Arms it would be ideal if there was an image of said Coat-of-Arms to aid the reader's interpretation of the description.

I know there are images available of the crest online, e.g. at Heraldry wiki and the old Porirua City Council website (Archived), but I don't have the copyright or permission to upload it.

Similarly, it could be good to have the flag for Porirua on the page, consistent with the basic info box on the Wellington page. Examples of the flag at Flags of the World and the old Porirua City Council website (Archived) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radicuil (talk • contribs) 12:44, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have just added an image of the coat of arms --Radicuil (talk) 10:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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