Talk:Portland Park, Troon

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Merger proposal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To merge given a lack of independent notability, either through WP:FOOTY or more generally WP:GNG; merge preferable to deletion. Klbrain (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Troon F.C.. Portland Park has not hosted a Scottish League game and does not meet WP:GNG. I also think that the content within the Portland Park article can easily be explained in the context of the club, and the Troon F.C. article is of a reasonable size that the merging of the two will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 09:19, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Portland Park holds cultural significance, given they have hosted so many world class players at the park. Pele, Eusebio, the English World Cup squad and many, many more. The page should be a stand alone article, as this is not because of the club it is associated with - it is because of the star players who have been there, standing it out from all the other grounds in Scotland. Troonportland (talk) 20:52, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just because a couple of well-known people visited the ground doesn't mean it's notable. All that information could easily be included in the Troon F.C. article. There has to be significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and from a WP:FOOTY perspective, any ground that has hosted a Scottish league is notable. Portland Park doesn't meet either of those as a few articles in the local press just don't cut it. To compare it with other similar grounds, Beechwood Park in Auchinleck, Loch Park in New Cumnock and Meadow Park in Irvine – all of which have hosted Scottish Cup matches, unlike Portland Park – are not notable and thus don't have a standalone article. Information about each ground, to a varying degree, is contained within the article about the football teams which play there. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 21:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I'm not seeing in depth coverage of the ground. Notability is not inherited by notable people brielfy visiting. Fenix down (talk) 21:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support - no evidence of separate notability. A section on the football club article is sufficient. Giant Snowman 17:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - notability is not inherited from some players who trained (didn't even play an actual competitive game) at the ground -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited a 'parent' page to include the details of this page, so please just remove this page altogether. Troonportland (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As Troon F.C. are not the only team to have played at this stadium, it would be inappropriate to merge the two articles unless a consensus can be reached that the stadium on its own falls short of notability. Thanks, AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 18:59, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support – The venue has not hosted any matches of a sufficiently high level to be separately notable to the club. In terms of the point made about other teams having played there, it should be noted that none of these other teams have as yet been judged notable enough to justify their own article, and are themselves covered on the Troon F.C. page. Jellyman (talk) 11:17, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Insufficient basis for a standalone article. Mccapra (talk) 20:30, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]