Talk:Prescott punch

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Did you know... that British deputy prime minister John Prescott was nicknamed "Two Jabs" after punching a protestor in 2001?

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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 13:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Prescott in 2002

... that 20 years ago today British Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott (pictured) punched a protestor who had thrown an egg at him? "The Labour Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, has punched a protester who threw an egg at him during a visit to Rhyl in north Wales." from: "2001: Prescott punches protester". BBC On This Day. 16 May 2001. Retrieved 6 May 2021.

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Comment: Date request for 16 May. I wouldn't class this as negative about Prescott: he embraced the incident, which didn't harm his popularity, and even subtitled his autobiography Pulling No Punches - Dumelow (talk) 07:38, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 07:38, 7 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Seems weird that we would put an image our own project considers to be non-commercial and non-free, on our own main page. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 16:56, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dylsss, the image is from Commons, what makes it unfree? - Dumelow (talk) 17:00, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See {{Non-free Philippines government}}, Commons considers this to be in the public domain because it regards the non-commercial restiriction as a non-copyright restriction. We, however, consider this to be non-free, I just thought I'd bring this up as the main page strictly cannot have any non-free content. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 17:10, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a drive-by comment, but Commons actually does not accept works with non-commercial restrictions if that is the only license. Furthermore, this isn't actually a restriction on commercial use, as the law says No copyright shall subsist in any work of the Government of the Philippines. However, prior approval of the government agency or office wherein the work is created shall be necessary for exploitation of such work for profit. According to c:COM:Philippines#Government works, this is not a copyright restriction, as "requires approval" does not mean "forbidden". Nevertheless (without doing a full review), I would recommend that the image not be run on the main page, due to the murky copyright situation and because the portrait is not much wider than the 150px minimum. Epicgenius (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are better photos of Prescott but later in his career. More than happy for this to run without an image - Dumelow (talk) 22:54, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, if Commons said that the "approval for profit" thing doesn't count as a copyright restriction, shouldn't the image technically be fine then? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Striking ALT0 as we unfortunately missed the 20th anniversary. Alternatives below - Dumelow (talk) 07:44, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott (pictured) punching a protestor was one of few memorable moments from the generally dull 2001 United Kingdom general election?
ALT2 ... that Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott (pictured) punching a protestor did not harm the Labour Party's chances in the 2001 United Kingdom general election?
ALT3 ... that British Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott (pictured) was nicknamed "Two Jabs" after punching a protestor in 2001?

Certainly a memorable incident for old "Two Jags, Two Shags". Shame this got bogged down so we missed the anniversary. Here's the review. Date and length fine. I prefer ALT3 as it more punchier (pardon the pun) though I have to AGF as the source is a book (even though I know its true @Dumelow:!). QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Picture licence seems fine to me as its tagged as PD. However I suspect for BLP reasons it may not be a good idea to use one. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]