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Removing Princess Zelda from examples list, as Link, the Hero of the story, never actually has an active love interest in her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.23.145.65 (talk) 07:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source?[edit]

I study medieval romance for a living and I have never heard of the term "princesse lointaine". This is obviously a practicular (probably French) scholar's specialized vocabulary. Do we have a source for it?--Ermenrich (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Color Symbolism[edit]

I question this unsupported assertion in the entry: "As the etiquette of courtly love became more complicated, the knight might wear the colors of his lady: where blue or black were sometimes the colors of faithfulness, green could be a sign of unfaithfulness."

Does anyone have a reference that supports these color meanings? I am not an expert on heraldry but I everything I have ever read on the subject suggests that vert primarily symbolized fidelity in marriage, somewhat opposite of what is asserted here. The primary meaning of azure (blue) was loyalty, and sable (black) could mean, among other things, reliability or constancy (though usually meant in battle or strife) but the meaning ascribed to vert here is unusual. Indeed, it is even more unusual because heraldic meanings were rarely negative or censorious, since heraldry was partly about bragging.

Color symbolism (which is a passion of mine) has always been culturally bound and changes from place to place and era to era. But this is an assertion at odds with the scholarship I've read and I'm wondering if there is a source which might indicate more details about where and when this meaning was common.2604:2000:14C6:81CF:B8F2:E809:FCEB:C1D8 (talk) 18:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]