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Gavin McInnes and the 'Proud Boys'[edit]

There have been several edits to this page discussing the use of Proud of Your Boy in relation to Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys organization, and the use of the song by McInnes in assorted media appearances. These edits seem to be contentious in terms of relevance. An edit that I made previously was reverted by Javiero Fernandez.

For Wikipedia articles on songs, sections on a song's appearance/use elsewhere in culture is fairly standard; sections on use in pop culture, other media, and/or cultural influence is within the scope of a song's article. Usage of Proud of Your Boy in media such as The Gavin McInnes Show and The Rebel Media is extensive and one of the most notable uses of the song, especially considering the obscure nature of the track, seeing as it was cut from the original film.

Similar sections on pop culture, cultural influence, and covers of/media use of songs are included with minimal contention other articles. E.g., discussion of Part of Your World being used by feminist and LGBT organizations, Be Our Guest being parodied in a TV commercial for a supermarket, Heigh-Ho being used as a jingle for a radio program on economics, etc.

Is there a particular reason why a comparable section would be outside of the scope of this article? It is highly plausible that the objections to this inclusion are influenced more by objection to McInnes/the Proud Boys' as a political movement than due to relevance.

DirkDouse (talk) 15:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have no time for the American extreme right, but it is not acceptable to suppress or censor information on Wikipedia. The article needs a See Also section linking to Proud Boys at the very least. --Ef80 (talk) 14:46, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One of the references is to The Beaverton, this is a satirical publication, should this be removed ? 81.24.248.8 (talk) 05:43, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed reference to Proud Boys, because I believe it is undue. People choose to name their team, group or whatever after something that inspires them. This information should be contained within Proud Boys. The media reference doesn't go in depth beyond that they were named after this song. If someone names something after the Atlantic Ocean, you don't put his group name in Atlantic Ocean even if media says the group was inspired by the ocean. Graywalls (talk) 03:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If it checks out, this may be the primary notability of the song. Even if not, it is worth including because it is overwhelmingly sourced as one of the outcomes of the subject of the article. Regardless, Wikipedia has no deadline, so there is no harm to the project in waiting to see how this all resolves. - Wikidemon (talk) 05:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This suggests it was sensationalism. Instead of just being mentioned as Proud Boys named themselves after this, we should wait for reliable sources to say this song gained notability or something like that because of Proud Boys. Graywalls (talk) 21:24, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/bond-agreement-for-kyle-rittenhouse-modified-after-he-allegedly-flashed-white-power-signs-at-bar/2420878/ says:
A motion previously filed by prosecutors said five men at the tavern serenaded Rittenhouse with the song “Proud of Your Boy," which has become the anthem of the Proud Boys, a white supremacist group whose members have been identified as being involved in the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
I came here to see what was being sung. I'd never heard of it within Aladdin, probably because it wasn't in the movie. Given that it wasn't in the original or the live action remake, and given the notability of that racist group and how they were brought up during the presidential debate, etc., I would suggest that this use of the song is its primary nobility and should at least be mentioned on this page. Banaticus (talk) 06:19, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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This is very large, I will try to start reviewing today though. --K. Peake 13:54, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead[edit]

  • Infobox looks good
  • "for Disney's animated film" → "for Disney's animated film," with the target
Done, but linked to "Walt Disney Animation Studios" so readers know we're referring to the company's feature-length animation division.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The discarded song remained largely" → "After being discarded, the song remained largely"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The ballad was eventually restored" → "The song was eventually restored"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Lyrically, "Proud of Your Boy" is about" → "Lyrically, it is about"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "about which Ashman was particularly fond." → "with Ashman being particularly fond of it."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "theorize that the lyricist" → "theorized that the lyricist"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "using "Proud of Your Boy";" → "using the song;"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ""Proud of Your Boy" was one of the first songs" → "it was one of the first songs"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In the play Aladdin sings" → "In the musical, Aladdin sings"
Revised.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "premiered in the stage adaptation to" → "premiered in the stage adaptation for Aladdin to"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "new addition, since becoming" → "new addition since becoming"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ""Proud of Your Boy" had already" → "it had already"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.
  • "of its demo, considered" → "of the demo, being considered"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background and writing[edit]

  • "Menken also contributed to" → "with Menken also contributing to"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add release year of the film in brackets
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove target on "Arabian Nights"
Removed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Aladdin's mother is" → "the character of the same name's mother is" with the target
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "for the better[9][10] and acknowledging" → "for the better,[9][10] while acknowledging"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "strong feelings for the song being" → "strong feelings about the song, being" to avoid confusion
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ashman had worked with" → "He had worked with"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "agreed the ballad" → "agreed that the ballad"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "with his mother."" → "with his mother"." for consistency
  • "about their relationship querying," → "about the relationship, querying,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Img looks good
Thanks.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Originally intended to occur" → "Originally intended to appear"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aladdin should be italicised since it is the film being referenced here
In this context, the sentence is actually referring discarded solos specifically for the character of Aladdin himself; I've revised the sentence for clarity.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "during which both the mother and song were written out of the movie." → "with both the mother and song being written out of the film."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "deemed unsalvageable as well as" → "deemed unsalvageable, as well as"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "being written out of Aladdin." → "being written out of it."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of the film to" → "of Aladdin to"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "until "A Whole New World" replaced it." → "prior to the replacement."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "After "Proud of Your Boy"'s omission," → "After the song's omission,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recording and release[edit]

  • "to sing in the film by singing" → "to sing in Aladdin by performing"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "assured him instead they would" → "assured him they would instead"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and as of 2019 occasionally" → "and as of 2019, he occasionally"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "he also recorded it" → "he also recorded the song"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • [43][18][44] should be put in numerical order
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "after which it was" → "after which the song was"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "auditions, describing it as" → "auditions; he described it as"
Revised.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was used by" → "The song was used by"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "as the original audition song" → "as one of the original audition songs"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "approaching the release of an upcoming special edition DVD." → "around the time of an upcoming special edition DVD's release."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This version was" → "The version was"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "featurette hosted by Musker and co-director Ron Clements," → "featurette that is hosted by Musker and Clements,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "limited to "Hardcore" → "limited to "[h]ardcore"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "for the original Broadway cast recording[52]" → "for Aladdin: Original Broadway Cast Recording,[52]"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Context[edit]

Background[edit]

  • "once the project was greenlit," → "once the stage adaptation was green-lit," with the wikilink
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "recognizing it among" → "recognizing the song among"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "that it be revised" → "that the script be revised"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of the show."" → "of the show"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in the musical having Aladdin" → "in the musical by having Aladdin"

Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "dreams come true."" → "dreams come true"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ashman's “Proud of Your Boy”" → "Ashman's "Proud of Your Boy""
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in a son."" → "in a son"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "assure his mother" → "assure his mother,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "make you proud"," → "make you proud";"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the whole show."" → "the whole show"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "shared Jacob's sentiments," → "shared Jacob's sentiment,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the tune offers" → "the song offers" since "tune" is unencyclopedic
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "suggested performers of the song" → "suggested for performers of the song to"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Use in Aladdin[edit]

  • "saying "how Aladdin" → "by saying that "how Aladdin"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "both restored from" → "consisting of ones restored from"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "for the show – heard" → "for the show–heard"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "now sings in memory of his late mother[3] and reveals" → "now sings the song in memory of his late mother,[3] revealing"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "make her proud[77][78] as opposed" → "make her proud,[76][77][78] as opposed" with [76] being solely here rather than in its current position at all
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in the animated film," → "in the film,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • [80] should be solely at the end of the sentence after [20]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "establishes Aladdin wishes to be" → "establishes that Aladdin wishes to be"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "explained that" → "explained that,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Despite a second act reprise," → "Despite a reprise in the second act,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove target on Jasmine
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "parents proud."" → "parents proud"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Composition[edit]

  • Retitle to Composition and lyrics
Changed to "Music and lyrics".--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove wikilink on Walt Disney Music Publishing
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "performed "With" → "performed "[w]ith"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • D major should be in lowercase for the second word
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "duration of two minutes and twenty seconds." → "duration of 2:20."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "two minutes and twenty-nine seconds." → "2:29."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "mother proud."" → "mother proud"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Identifying it as" → "Identifying "Proud of Your Boy" as"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "lyrics include" → "lyrics include,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of your boy”,[20] promising to" → "of your boy."[20] The lyrics promise to"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "'screwin’-up times'."" → "'screwin'-up times'"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "wasted time."" → "wasted time"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "her son."" → "her son"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "emotional punch,"" → "emotional punch","
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "we are."" → "we are"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of you."" → "of you"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reception[edit]

  • "Heather Phares of AllMusic described" → "Phares described"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "although the critic said" → "while saying"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a degree,"" → "a degree","
  • "due to its availability" → "due to the availability"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the critic described" → "the staff described"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "about its creators'" → "about the creators'"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Nerdist contributor Amy Ratcliffe wrote that" → "Ratcliffe wrote that"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "emotional jab."" → "emotional jab"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "among the disc's bonus content," → "among the DVD's bonus content,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why is the cult favourite mentioned here when the reviews like the DVD one that are listed earlier are from later time periods? Shouldn't it be earlier in the section instead???
I've moved this down to the "impact" section instead.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove wikilink on The Music Behind the Magic
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "wonderful effect."" → "wonderful effect"."
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "new addition to the musical for" → "new addition for"
Revised.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "New York Theatre Guide described it" → "The staff of New York Theatre Guide described it"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "reviewed actor Graeme Isaako's" → "reviewed Isaako's"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in the film."" → "in the film"."
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Removed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in love."" → "in love"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "also believes the song" → "also stated that the song"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "writing for the same publication," → "for the same publication,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Variety said" → "The staff of Variety said,"" with the target
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "“Disney’s Aladdin” has" → "'Disney's Aladdin' has"
Revised.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and found its reprise" → "and finding the song's reprise"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove wikilink on Los Angeles Times
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove The Spectrum per WP:RSSM
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:14, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a break."" → "a break"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Live performances and covers[edit]

  • Img looks good
  • "of Disney Theatrical Productions." → "of DTP that same year."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "own parents, using" → "own parents, with him using"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In 2019, actor Clinton Greenspan" → "In 2019, Greenspan"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a fan of the artist," → "a fan of Aiken,"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "AllMusic's Heather Phares described as" → "Phares described as"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.
Done.
  • "which is considered" → "the latter of which is considered"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the artist's rendition" → "the singer's rendition"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "but remains" → "while remaining"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Impact[edit]

  • There has been some edit warring circulated around this section over the past month or so, though this edit showed more of a compromise for both sides
  • "in which it became" → "with it becoming"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove wikilink on BroadwayWorld
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "among 20 best" → "among the 20 best"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Actor Telly Leung said the song" → "Leung said the song"
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "stage production."" → "stage production"."
Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add release year of the adaption in brackets
Added.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of Vulture.com joked that" → "of Vulture joked that"
Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

  • Copyvio score looks decent at 35.1%
  • Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
  • Cite American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers as publisher instead for ref 1
  • Remove or replace ref 2 per WP:SELFPUB
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 3 and cite BuzzFeed as publisher instead
  • Cite Moviefone as publisher instead for ref 5
  • Geeks of Dom → Geeks of Doom on ref 8
  • WP:OVERLINK of Entertainment Weekly on refs 10, 30, 55 and 138
  • Cite Nerdist News instead for ref 12 and as publisher
  • Cite The FW as publisher instead for ref 13 and target to Townsquare Media
  • Cite StubHub as publisher instead for ref 15
  • Cite DVD Talk as publisher instead for ref 16
  • Cite BroadwayWorld as publisher instead for ref 17
  • Cite NewNowNext.com as publisher instead for ref 19 and target to Logo TV
  • Cite London Theatre Direct as publisher instead for refs 20 and 68
  • Cite the surname followed by middle name in the first name parameter for ref 25
  • Broadway World → BroadwayWorld on ref 27 and remove wikilink
  • Cite Cartoon Brew as publisher instead for ref 28
  • Cite Soundtrack.Net as publisher instead for ref 29
  • WP:OVERLINK of BroadwayWorld on refs 31, 59, 70, 88 and 127 and cite as publisher instead
  • Cite BroadwaySF as publisher instead for ref 32
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 33 and cite Grammys.com as publisher instead, with target to Grammy Award
  • Cite 680 News as publisher instead for ref 34 and target to CFTR (AM)
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 36 and cite D23 as publisher instead
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 37, 133 and 144
  • Remove or replace ref 38 per WP:SELFPUB
  • Cite Animated Views as publisher instead on ref 42
  • Cite Tail Slate as publisher instead for ref 43
  • Cite News 95.7 as publisher instead for ref 45 and target to CJNI-FM
  • Cite People instead for ref 46 and target to People (magazine)
  • Cite AllMusic as publisher instead for ref 47
  • Remove or replace ref 48 per WP:ALBUMAVOID
  • Cite Amazon.com as publisher instead for ref 49 and target to Amazon (company)
  • Cite Vudu as publisher instead for ref 50
  • Cite Oh My Disney as publisher instead for ref 51 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
  • WP:OVERLINK of AllMusic on refs 52 and 136 and cite as publisher instead
  • WP:OVERLINK of Amazon on refs 53 and 134 and cite as publisher instead
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on refs 54 and 121
  • WP:OVERLINK of People on ref 56
  • WP:OVERLINK of Oh My Disney on refs 63 and 87 and cite as publisher instead
  • Cite TheaterMania as publisher instead for refs 67 and 108
  • Target Hal Leonard Corporation to Hal Leonard LLC on ref 69
  • Cite TodayTix as publisher instead for ref 71
  • Cite Digital Spy as publisher instead for ref 72
  • Target LEO Weekly to Louisville Eccentric Observer on ref 74
  • Seattle Times → The Seattle Times on ref 77
  • Remove or replace refs 81 and 84 per WP:RSSM
  • WP:OVERLINK of Out on refs 85 and 86, plus fix MOS:CAPS issues with the latter
  • WP:OVERLINK of DVD Talk on ref 89 and cite as publisher instead
  • Cite Musicnotes.com solely as publisher for ref 90, removing the other one
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 93 and target Nielsen Business Media, Inc to Nielsen Holdings
  • Cite United Press International as publisher instead for ref 94
  • Are you sure ref 96 doesn't violate WP:SELFPUB?
  • WP:OVERLINK of Newsday on ref 97
  • Cite Filmtracks.com as publisher instead for ref 98
  • Comingsoon.net → ComingSoon.net on ref 99
  • Cite Texas Public Radio as publisher instead for ref 101
  • Movieweb → MovieWeb on ref 102, citing as publisher instead
  • Target Tribute to Tribute (magazine) on ref 107
  • Remove or replace ref 109 per WP:RSSM
  • Talkin'Broadway → Talkin' Broadway on ref 111, citing as publisher instead
  • WP:OVERLINK of Deadline Hollywood on ref 115
  • Remove Variety from the title of ref 116
  • Cite Vulture instead for ref 117 but target to Vulture.com
  • WP:OVERLINK of Los Angeles Times on ref 118
  • WP:OVERLINK of The Hollywood Reporter on ref 120
  • WP:OVERLINK of D23 on ref 125 and cite as publisher instead
  • Cite Animation World Network as publisher instead for ref 131
  • Cite Business Wire as publisher instead for ref 135
  • WP:OVERLINK of Chicago Tribune on ref 140
  • Remove or replace ref 142 since PopSugar are a gossip site, not a reliable source of info
  • Cite Vulture instead for ref 143 with no target/wikilink

Final comments and verdict[edit]

  •  On hold but an issue I noticed throughout was that you did overlink a lot of things. --K. Peake 12:21, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
K. Peake Hi there. Firstly, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to review my article so diligently and quickly. I understand that, typically, the turnaround for responding to reviews is 7 days/a week. However, I wanted to advise you that I've run into some home computer issues that may result in my response taking a little bit longer. I hope you don't mind if I ask for another week, at the most, before passing judgement. Thanks!--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Changedforbetter No of course I don't mind; the response timeframe is what is aimed for, though it is not necessary and if you have issues then I am definitely willing to allow longer to respond. Mention me again when you have covered everything though! --K. Peake 08:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Changedforbetter I am glad to see that you have completed the sections up to reception, how long do you think it will take you to get through the rest hopefully? --K. Peake 12:04, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Changedforbetter Unfortunately I will have to ✗ Fail this, as I have allowed a good amount longer than an extra week for you to fix the issues but there are still a number of sections left to cover; I waited until now to form this verdict because today marks the end of the month. --K. Peake 08:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
K. Peake Hi there, I completely understand and wouldn't hold your decision to "fail" against you at all; you've been more than patient and accommodating. Unfortunately, my real-life career and computer various issues have gotten in the way of myself editing the article as consistently as I would have liked, for which I do apologize. Hopefully I'll be able to resubmit the article for GA once life has regulated a little. All the best! :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proud Boys[edit]

I think one of two things needs to happen: either the article should mention that the Proud Boys named themselves after this song, or the category Category:Proud Boys should be removed (per WP:CATV. I see there was some discussion above starting in 2018. I am only familiar with the song because of this association, but it's possible that sources about the song rarely mention it. I would be interested to hear the thoughts of more regular editors at this article, and previous discussion participants, @DirkDouse, Ef80, Graywalls, Wikidemon, and Banaticus. Firefangledfeathers 21:06, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Last time I looked at this article (a few months ago) there was a mention somewhere of the Proud Boys in the article. Is this issue still contentious? I feel like most of the people who have commented on this page agree that it should be mentioned in some capacity. It seems like this dispute has been going on for like four years now. I agree with what I stated previously (that it should be mentioned here in some capacity, and that there are numerous sources discussing this). Is there anyone here who disagrees who can articulate a reason why it is not relevant to include this? DirkDouse (talk) 05:21, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, when that discussion first started in approx 2018, this article was only a few paragraphs long. This was also very briefly after the Proud Boys decided to name themselves after the song. It seems like a lot of the attention to this page only occurred after that event in the first place, considering that Aladdin was released in 1992. I.e., this seems like a primary reason why this article even has attention in the first place. DirkDouse (talk) 05:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps a one line disambig hatnote linking to Proud Boys is appropriate? --Ef80 (talk) 11:29, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am not opposed to that, but it seems like it would fit better under "Impact." Or maybe as a "See Also." DirkDouse (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I added a very brief mention to "Impact". Firefangledfeathers 05:59, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll just repeat what I said in an earlier discussion. Given that this song wasn't in the original film or the live action remake of the film, and given the notability of that racist group, etc., I would suggest that the group's connection to the song is the primary point of notability for the song and thus the connection should at least be mentioned. Banaticus (talk) 07:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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