Talk:Rahul Gandhi/Archive 2

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Archive 2

Revert Clarificafion

Please explain this SpacemanSpiff The URLs are dead. Name is not required as its the same as article title. Why write whole family? Mother and father are enough. It's not Geneology, is it? Also cn were placed where citation was not clear. Don't just impose your predetermined judgement as you have been doing for quite a while. Assess the edits then take action. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

You've been warned on your talk page. —SpacemanSpiff 16:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Warning for what? Are URLs active? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:58, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Pankaj, you should review your edits in the light of the revert, and you can reinstate whichever edits were non-problematic. I am not sure what you mean by "citation was not clear." You seem to have placed a cn tag for the attendance at St. Stephens, but it is mentioned in the reference cited at the end of the sentence. Why was this not clear? Did you check all the cited references before you added the cn tags? - Kautilya3 (talk) 18:05, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Does that qualify for warning? I have made few edits 1) name removed 2) dead link tags 3) ancestry removal 4) 4 cn tags. For this I have been accused of cn bombing. 4 cn tags is such a long article qualify cn bombing? I checked the link that says doon school. It doesn't fully support the statement. For Stephens also please read the whole reference. The matter present on the article is not what's mentioned in the reference. 3rd cn is over tearing off ordinance. The ref is provided two statements above, so (I think) that also deserves a cn. 4th i agree was a mistake. Please clarify which can be reinstated as any and every edit i do qualify for a ban or block here and that too without being given a chance of representation. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 18:23, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

You should continue the conduct discussion on your talk page. This is not the place for it.

In general you should take responsibility for your own edits, but other people may selectively check to verify.

For the Stephens issue, the source [1] says: According to the educational details made available by Rahul, he joined St Stephens College in Delhi in 1989 and after passing the first year exam, moved to Harvard, which is almost the same as what is written in the article. I don't understand what you mean by "not what's mentioned in the reference." - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:00, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

1. this doesnt mention anything about doon school. Nor does the following citation. So it does qualify {{cn}}
2. The links I referred to as dead qualify WP:Linkrot
3. The heredity or generations to which he belongs is too long. If someone is really interested he/she can go to mother/father page and know grandmother or great-grandfather. So it qualifies WP:UNDUE
4. name - whether you keep it or not doesn't make any impact on how its visible. Again WP:UNDUE

So please help me understand, how these are disruptive edits? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

1. No, this article doesn't mention the Doon School. But it is easy enough to find a citation with a google search.
2. Tagging deadlinks is usually harmless. But if you care to be genuinely helpful, you can try to find the new urls where the material might be found.
3. The family history is a bit of a judgement call, but I would think any biography of Rahul Gandhi would mention that he is Jawaharlal Nehru's great-grandson.
4. If the name doesn't have a visible effect, why remove it?

Disruptive edits are in general when you create work for other editors. - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:50, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Rahul Gandhi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk · contribs) 01:10, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Hi, I'll be reviewing this article. I will list the issues within 24 hours.Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 01:10, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
• Here are the issues:

• I suggest you put citations after punctuation where possible.
• "Until 2006", shouldn't there be a comma after that
• One sentence remains uncited.
• "In an attempt to prove himself thus, ...". Is the "thus" necessary? Could the whole sentence be slightly reworded?
• Some of the references need better formatting. For example, missing commas, missing periods, and incorrect punctuation.

--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 22:34, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

@Tomandjerry211 (alt): Just a suggestion. Could you please point out the sentences you refer to more clearly, possibly along with the section of the article to which they belong, so that the nominator can work on them more easily? And are these the only issues? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 13:16, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

@Tomandjerry211: Nearly a month-and-a-half since this review began. This might need to be failed. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 12:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Thought we need your help here. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 15:35, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Sainsf, I posted to Tomandjerry211's talk page several days ago, to see whether he wanted to continue the review or have the nomination put back into the reviewing pool, but he hasn't edited Wikipedia since then. Some of the issues listed could easily have been found by searching; there's only one occurrence of "attempt" in the article, and "Until 2006" is easily located. The paragraph with the latter, though, needs more work than was asked for, and the third Formative years paragraph also needs work. Also, I don't see any post to Royroydeb's talk page by the bot when this review started, so I think it makes sense to ping RRD now for a response; if there is none, then failing this is an option. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:12, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

• It's been a long time since I posted this review, way over the required seven days, so might as well fail it for now. Renominate any time you want.Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 22:21, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

@Tomandjerry211 (alt): Other than the unresponsiveness, per what criteria is this failed here? I'm confused. Could that be pointed out so that anybody renominating has a clear picture as to what to do? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 02:16, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I am as curious as Ugog Nizdast. This sudden failing with such a few comments (sorry but this might appear like an incomplete review) does appear weird, please clearly give all the points that have to be worked upon before renomination. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 02:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Sudden failing? The review was posted on March 17; this is April 30, and RRD was pinged two weeks ago yet did nothing. Although it isn't the best review, there were some definite issues listed, even if seemingly minor, along with some general ones; although they might not have required more than a couple of hours work, the nominator didn't do anything for over six weeks. It should have been failed weeks ago. If the nominator wants more details at this point (it would have been easy to request them any time these past weeks), a peer review is the way to go. There are also a bunch of "citation needed" templates and an "undue" template to take care of, and the article cannot be passed with them in place. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:11, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I might have been wrong about the "sudden", it escaped me perhaps because I was not so satisfied with the review. Yes, the article deserves a good peer review before it is renominated. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit war???

Hello User:The Masked Man of Mega Might, I feel, you are going in edit war. Please do not revert the things, unnecessary. If you have any issues, please discuss on talk page. There are always controversy related to any personality including Indira Gandhi. Better improve the article rather removing everything what I edit. Yogee23 (talk) 07:14, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2016

Since the topic is about Rahul, using Gandhi to refer him is not correct. My request is to change all places where he has been referred to as Gandhi to Rahul, which would be most appropriate. 59.96.37.203 (talk) 02:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

 Not done as WP:LASTNAME - use last name not forename, initials or Mr/Mrs/Ms

Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2016

103.54.19.174 (talk) 12:30, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Rahul Gandhi is also famous for his famous speeches and pretty names given by Indian citizens. His best friend is Arnab Goswami, who aslo interviewed him during 2014 general elections, that led to landslide victory of BJP.

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:48, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)--:N Not done and not likely to be done--Simply WP:GRAPEVINE.Libelous attacks.Light^{❯❯❯ Saber} 13:54, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2016

Pappu987654 (talk) 18:06, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2017

125.16.236.154 (talk) 14:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:58, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

joining party

Dear sir I am C P Madaan from Panipat aged 51 years working as rural bank manager want to serve the nation through I N C.as i wish to opt fot pension plan from bank.Will you please give me a chance to work for I N C. I am working as president of hum religious society also. Thanking you in anticipation i remain Yours faithfully C P Madaan (Redacted) Chander parkash (talk) 09:29, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

• @Chander parkash: Hello. Wikipedia does not represent Rahul Gandhi, or his party. Wikipedia is an online encyclopaedia. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:38, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Infobox photo

The current photo was shot/created in Feb 2008. I think it is time to change that photo to a recent one. usernamekiran (talk) 12:46, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Need your suggestion/guidance User:Canada Jack usernamekiran (talk) 02:49, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

You will need an open source photo, free of copyright, that improves on this photo. Might check his press office to see if there is an updated photo, then go from there. It's been way too long since I've uploaded a photo, hopefully someone else can help you on the mechanics of that. Cheers Canada Jack (talk) 03:08, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@King Prithviraj II: do you have any inputs on that?

• @Tiger7253 and Fowler&fowler: any suggestions? —usernamekiran (talk) 20:49, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

• @King Prithviraj II: ?? —usernamekiran (talk) 20:50, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: I think the image does need to be replaced, but until we geta free image let it remain. King Prithviraj II (talk) 07:56, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

• @King Prithviraj II: that will take a lot of time. We should start looking for a free image. —usernamekiran (talk) 08:55, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

*@Usernamekiran: I searched few free image websites, but the images posted there were not properly oriented and most of those were from election rallies. Will it do ? King Prithviraj II (talk) 15:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

• @King Prithviraj II: one can upload any image to wikimedia as long as it doesnt have any copyrights, or other similar problems. We can crop the image on wikimedia using crop tool. I have done that with a few images, including the current infobox image of Roshni Chopra. If you see the details of her photo, it says it has been cropped from another image. We can choose an appropriate image of Gandhi, and crop it to make it suitable for infobox. Once done with that, we can hold a poll here on talkpage to change the existing image. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

• @Usernamekiran: will these do - http://www.fakingnews.firstpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/rahul-gandhi-churu.jpg

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Rahul-Gandhi.jpg ? King Prithviraj II (talk) 16:11, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@King Prithviraj II: No. Please see Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines_for_images_and_other_media_files --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:14, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

• @King Prithviraj II: yes, NeilN is right. We can not use these images. Let it be. Dont bother about his image. If i come across any non-copyrighted image of Rahul Gandhi, I will post it here, and i will let you know as well. Thanks a lot for your efforts though. :) —usernamekiran (talk) 17:15, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Wording (to all contributors)

Hello,
this request is intended to all contributors. Kindly do not use "sophistacated" or difficult words in the article. This attracts a lot of unregistered (IP) users, and autoconfirmed users as well to attempt edits, which results in "unconstructive edits". The grammar doesnt seem to be an issue. Just the words. So it is a request, kindly do not use "heavy" words. Thanks. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:50, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2017

Vishwajeet Modanwal (talk) 03:13, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 04:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

About Gandhi

is this word - Gandhi - making a confusion. There is minimum 5 gandhi s in this articles. So if you say anything about Rahul gandhi please use Rahul or Rahul Gandhi. The custom of using last name for addressing a person is there in UK and US and other English based countries. But to avoid confusion it is better to use Rahul. Ranjithsiji (talk) 15:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2017

Change name to Rahul Gandhi (Pappu) Advocatepavanpatil (talk) 11:30, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

 Not done. His name is correct as per WP:RS. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:59, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

External links

Rahul Gandi Official Facebook Page Rahul Gandhi Offical Instagram Profile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anilkath (talk • contribs) 12:49, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2017

Citation suggestion

Citation for the following statement is provided:

"What our government has done is wrong".

The statement is said at 2:56 second mark in the video (see link):

Citation: Prasad Sanyal (27 September 2013). "Rahul Gandhi calls ordinance on convicted lawmakers 'nonsense'; huge embarrassment for PM". NDTV.com. Derb1134 (talk) 02:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: NDTV.com is not a reliable source SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 19:51, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done. NDTV is indeed a reliable source. It is arguably the best television news channel in India. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Alma Mater

Rahul Gandhi only briefly attended Harvard during his undergrad years and as such, Harvard cannot be put as his alma mater, going by the definition of the term. Let's remove the spurious reference to Harvard from his alma mater. --2405:204:C18D:24F3:3190:A525:E517:1BBC (talk) 10:44, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Religion

Rahul Gandhi is belong from Christan Religion. Rohit786jhgt (talk) 10:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

• Source is needed.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣ 10:37, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

• Please also note WP:BLPCAT which explains that "religious beliefs or sexual orientation should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question, and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to their public life or notability, according to reliable published sources". So, for religion to be included in the article there needs to be reliably sourced article content that shows the subject self-identifies with the religion and that it is notable. Thanks. -- Begoon 11:02, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Sentence correction

Sentence reading - Out of the 15 seats in the Amethi parliamentary constituency, Congress won 2 of the 15 seats. Should be corrected to - Congress won 2 of the 15 seats in the Amethi parliamentary constituency.

 Done. I made an edit but not to your exact wording. I think a slightly longer wording is necessary because of mixing parliamentary constituency and assembly seats. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:19, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add a "controversies/criticism" section

Such as National Herald scam and Rajiv Gandhi Charitable Trust scams already in the court against Rahul Gandhi and some are being investigated by the CBI. Thanks. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 12:43, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

I agree. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to add content on these topics, but we should generally try to work these into the relevant sections rather than having a "Controversies" section as per WP:CRITICISM. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 14:19, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done A "Controversy" section can be added similar to [this politician's] article --Adamstraw99 (talk) 14:46, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2018

Please add this under education:

Gandhi is an alumnus of the ZEIT-Stiftung Bucerius Summer School on Global Governance in Hamburg, which he attended in 2005. The programme, which seeks to train emerging global leaders, includes visits to German institutions and lectures at the elite Bucerius Law School, past speakers having included well-known world leaders, policymakers and activists .

Sources:

1. https://twitter.com/INCIndia/status/1032305920804454405

2. Aarthi Ramachandran, Decoding Rahul Gandhi, p. 81-2 (Tranquebar Press, 2012)

3. https://www.bucerius-summer-school.de/f/9446e63527.pdf 12Kreem (talk) 01:32, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

 Needs discussion.

It is not clear that this a piece of biographical information. This is a development programme. Leaders/officials attend many such programmes. We don't put everything that might on a CV in a Wikipedia page. For it to go here, the significance must be clear. If possible, please provide a quote from Ramachandran's book that establishes its significance. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Here ya go, boyo. Scan of the relevant page:

https://ibb.co/imwvyU

12Kreem (talk) 04:56, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done we don't list every seminar people have attended - Arjayay (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2018

Change DOB to 13th June 1968 E nygma52 (talk) 05:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kpgjhpjm 09:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

National Herald case and out on bail status

Why there is no mention of national herald case and his "out on bail" status in this article? In Lalu yadav article it is mentioned that he is a convict then why Rahul Gandhi article missing "out on bail" recognition of him despite its being covered in numerous sources? https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/sonia-rahul-get-bail-in-national-herald-case/article8008316.ece https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/national-herald-case-sonia-and-rahul-gandhi-granted-bail/articleshow/50245031.cms https://www.theweek.in/news/india/rahul-is-out-on-bail-in-multi-crore-national-herald-scam-bjp.html https://indianexpress.com/article/india/national-herald-case-delhi-court-asks-sonia-rahul-gandhi-to-reply-on-subramanian-swamys-plea-4730996/ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/national-herald-case-delhi-court-asks-sonia-rahul-gandhi-to-reply-on-subramanian-swamys-plea-4730996/

is Wikipedia also run and controlled by left-liberal-congi cabal similar to our Indian MSM and twitter?? this is very sad and unfortunate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.91.24 (talk) 14:59, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

His "self identification" as a Brahmin

There are some wikipedians who have been claiming that a person cannot be claimed to be belonging to a group/caste, unless he self-identifies himself as belonging to the group (It is their opinion, not mine). Presumably that means that if a person self-identifies as belonging to a caste, he does belong to that caste.

For them: here is an update. Rahul Gandhi has personally claimed that he is a Kashmiri Brahmin and his gotra is Dattatreya (that is the gotra of the Nehru family).

It had earlier been stated by people close to him that he actually wears a yajnopavita.

Personal note: Gotra is inherited from the father. However I have precedents of people inheriting the gotra through adaption. Anyone who does not have a gotra, has a default gotra Kashyap.

There had been a lot of discussion about his religion since his grandfather was a Parsi, and mother a Catholic Italian. Malaiya (talk) 00:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Hindu idenity and terrorism related comments in article

User:Jyothir Aditya please See WP:UNDUE Stop adding your personal commentary to WP:BLP, lot of things get published in the newspapers regardign the election speech of leaders and all this information is not added into the article unless it is encyclopaedic. Please see WP:NOTNEWS. I have removed your content from the article, please do not add it back without discussing it here on the talk page first. --DBigXrayᗙ 12:03, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi User:DBigXray, Rahul Gandhi has clearly stated extreme views about Hindu terrorism. These things are controversial and widely discussed in India, As he is one of frontrunner for prime minister. Please see WP:UNDUE 1st point, I am giving majority viewpoint with multiple articles of different situations as evidence.

Please see the pages of other politicians like Donald Trump or Narendra Modi, They clearly list the controversial statements and opinions about them.

--Jyothir Aditya (talk) 14:55, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

User:DBigXray, Please discuss rather than blocking. You are experienced editor. Which points are negating my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyothir Aditya (talk • contribs) 15:06, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

• Jyothir Aditya Since you have taken the example of Modi and Trump, tell me Does Modi's article talk about the "50 crore Girlfriend" comment that he made ? that was all over the newspaper.  Talking about Trump he had apparently made a statement about "Grab em by the ...." this was widely reported in many newspapers. Does the article on Trump mention this and the big controversy it created ? Before adding something here one should also think if the content is encyclopaedic. Politicians give several statements everyday, more so during the election time. not all that crap that is published in the papers, should make its way into the newspaper. Now talking about your content, the source you listed does not even mention that it was a controversy and it was removed by User:Akhiljaxxn now instead of discussing here on the talk page, you have started an WP:EDITWAR to place the content into the article without creating a WP:Consensus for it. --DBigXrayᗙ 19:47, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

User:DBigXray,

On trump and modi pages, See the opinion about trump comments being racially charged. Comments made by modi to be far right.

These statements in edit are big controversial statements made by rahul gandhi. They are widely discussed and reflective of idealogy. Please see WP:UNDUE 1st point, I am giving majority viewpoint with multiple articles of different situations as evidence.

Please see, I am not quoting any specific speech by rahul gandhi anywhere in the edit.

These things don't become encyclopaedic, just because you don't think so. Thats real misuse of power. Please support your argument with facts. Jyothir Aditya (talk) 05:48, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

You have added "Gandhi remains to be figure of controversy domestically, for his remarks on hindu identity" the source you added doesnt say that. Please see WP:OR--DBigXrayᗙ 16:41, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2019

Chota Bheem BabaJabalpuri (talk) 07:12, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DBigXrayᗙ 08:20, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2019

You should add that Rahul Gandhi did NOT graduate from Harvard. The inclusion of this institution's name on the list is almost deliberate in its misleadingness. 96.84.208.140 (talk) 16:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DBigXrayᗙ 16:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

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Controversy on Present Gandhi family

There is a Controversy going on in India regarding present so called Nehru-Gandhi family. It is said that the family stole the name of respected father of nation Mahatma Gandhi's last name and used it for their own sake.Even the Priyanka Vadra the one who got married to Robert vadra is also using the last name for the publicity and reach by changing it to Priyanka Gandhi Vadra. This is when the people started noticing it. Otherwise there is no connection between Real Gandhi and present Gandhi family. People say It is a direct missuse and disregard of Respected Mahatma Gandhi's reputation. The whole family does scams when in rule and hides behind the powerful name of Gandhi, which is a shame for Indian nationals. Nobody knows or there no proof how this family suddenly started using the last name after death of Mahatma Gandhi and started faking people.India was also believing that they are family members of real Gandhi which they aren't. The power of social media and it's connectivity had led people to raise this voice against them. Vinnybellack (talk) 12:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

So, is there something specific which you think should be changed in the article? And do you have a reliable source for the precise change you want to make? Because otherwise we're just chatting, and you should see WP:NOTFORUM. -- Begoon 12:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Vinnybellack What do you intend to do? We cannot change the name of the page as now. But I think it must be mentioned somewhere that Nehru-Gandhi Family has no relation with Mahatma Gandhi. In fact in the very beginning. References in the Nehru–Gandhi family.

• Lyon, Peter (2008) Conflict Between India and Pakistan: An Encyclopedia. Santa Barbara: ABC-CLIO. p. 64.  ISBN 978-1576077122. "Feroze Gandhi was no relation of Mahatma Gandhi."
• https://books.google.co.in/books?id=mkjhctAvaRAC&pg=PA87
• Guha, Ramachandra (2011). India after Gandhi: The History of the World's Largest Democracy. Pan Macmillan. p. 33, footnote 2 (chapter 14). ISBN 978-0330540209.: "Feroze Gandhi was also from the Nehrus' home town, Allahabad. A Parsi by faith, he at first spelt his surname 'Gandhi'. However, after he joined the national movement as a young man, he changed the spelling to bring it in line with that of Mahatma Gandhi."

Protect the possible vandalasim , no edit access until completion of election

Protect the possible vandalasim, only edit access for extended autoconfirmed users . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lesenwriter (talk • contribs) 13:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2019

Remove Fail from Trinity College, Cambridge (MPhil-FAIL) from Education brief section. This is misinformation. Akhtar.asu (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:10, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2019

The spelling of elections is wrong in the line "Indian General Elections 2009" "election" is misspelled as "glections" Raj Hanmant Darekar (talk) 05:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done El_C 05:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2019

The MPhil-FAIL in education qualification is incorrect. Also "Rahul Vinci" was misspelt as "Raul Vinci" in the non-official certificate.

Source: https://www.telegraphindia.com/7-days/rahul-row-is-degree-too-far/cid/1670222

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DBigXrayᗙ 17:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Claims from MLAs removed from article

User:Anchit Chugh I have reverted your edits as WP:BLP violation, using contentious and defamatory content against a living person from poor sources. Claims from his political opponents are considered poor sources. you are also misrepresenting his statement on the rafale case. --DBigXrayᗙ 07:51, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

So , what you are alleging is that all the news channels are his political opponents and hence are poor sources? I won't edit again , but just to be clear , there was no intent of defamation, I just wanted to add information to the Wikipedia page by adding a recent big event in his political career during his campaign. - User:Anchit Chugh

Times of India, Bussiness Today and NDTV are WP:RS. All three sources are not claims by opponents. Hence they must be included. It is very clear in the description that the independant has filed the counter-affidavit against Rahul Gandhi. Dheerajmpai23 (talk) 12:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

• The opponent MLAs are the source of information here. ToI or NDTV are merely reporting what they said. He said, she said sort of statements from political opponenets (MLAs) are considered poor sources even if NYT or BBC publishes it. read WP:BLP first to understand more on what you are expected to follow. --DBigXrayᗙ 17:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Lok Sabha-Constituency mistake

Respected writer and editor,

   The Amethi Constituency is now under Smriti Irani of the BJP. I request you to kindly look into this and correct it.
Williams Underhill (talk) 04:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

No, you are wrong. Provide evidence if you are not lying. --DBigXrayᗙ 04:11, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 May 2019

Rahul Gandhi has won from Wayanad after the official declarartion of 2019 general election results . He lost from Amethi by a margin of 50000 votes from Smriti Irani 2405:205:221B:7859:741F:740A:160C:E4A5 (talk) 07:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 07:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 May 2019

Update 2019 election results. Mr. Rahul Gandhi lost Amethi, though he won Wayanad. SecularPseudoSecular (talk) 12:04, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

 Already done Mojoworker (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 June 2019

In the introduction, please change "longest serving" to "longest-serving" because "longest" is a statement about Nehru's time of service, not a statement about Nehru's length. 208.95.51.53 (talk) 12:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 15:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 June 2019

"After the 2013 Muzaffarnagar riots, at a Madhya Pradesh election rally in Indore, Rahul Gandhi claimed that a police officer has told him that Pakistan's ISI was trying to recruit disgruntled riot-affected youngsters."

"has told him" is only suitable for something recent. Now that this is six years old, it should be changed to "told him". 208.95.51.53 (talk) 12:12, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Done, thanks for spotting it! Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 13:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2019

Please change "Current President of Indian National Congress" to "Former President of Indian National Congress" because Rahul Gandhi has resigned from his position.

Source: https://www.firstpost.com/politics/rahul-gandhi-resigns-live-updates-farooq-abdullah-lauds-ex-congress-chief-for-standing-by-decision-bjp-distances-itself-from-political-drama-6923621.html Rollingjohn (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 12:17, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Suggested Changes: resignation

A previous edit on 3 July mentioned Rahul's resignation in the first paragraph of the lede. There are a few other sections in the article where this should be mentioned too. Possibly in the final section of the lede, changing "Rahul Gandhi took over as the president of the Congress in December 2017" to "Rahul Gandhi took over as the president of the Congress in December 2017, and resigned from that position in July 2019 after the general election defeat in 2019". Also under the section "Political Career", subsection "Indian General Election 2019", it may make sense to mention his resignation at the end. And near the bottom of the page, in the "party political offices" box, he is listed as the incumbent for the President of the Indian National Congress, when it should instead show Sonia Gandhi succeeding him as interim President HelpPls? (talk) 05:06, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 October 2019

Malik 106.207.23.73 (talk) 16:42, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done Not clear what you want changed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

"Pappu" edits

In this edit Vaibhavafro introduced the statement Gandhi is sometimes popularly referred to as ‘Pappu’. with citations to India Today, The Economic Times|, and the Financial Times. In this edit Akhiljaxxn reverted. In this edit reverted the reversion, and in this edit Akhiljaxxn again DBigXray then reverted.

This is edit-warring over a content dispute. Neither party has yet opened a talk page discussion, on this page so here one is.

I gather that "Pappu" is a negative nickname. WP:BLP says: Remove contentious material that is unsourced or poorly sourced but later in WP:PUBLICFIGURE says n the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it.

Now whether this content is "noteworthy, relevant, and well documented," should be in the first instance at least, for editors familiar with the topic to say. I do not take a position on that, although usually negative nicknames are not used of living people, even public figures, while negative events are often reported if well-sourced. To include such a nick name would be unusual, and should be supported by particularly good sources if we are to include it.

But the questions should be decided by discussion here, or through dispute resolution if need be, not by revert-warring. A page about an important public figure should not be so treated.

All editors are now warned that edit-warring can result in blocks from editing, even if the three-revert rule is not broken. I would prefer not to block anyone over this, but i will if need be. Every editor on this page is at least extended-confirms, and all should know better. Let us have a proper discussion please, reaching some sort of consensus on how to handle these edits if possible. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:06, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

I have corrected errors above. I was incorrect about who made the final revert of the sequence, and I apologize for that. I should ahve said that there had bene no discussion on the article talk page after the most recent set of reverts. I did not check user talk pages, nor did I check thje archives of thsi talk page. My apologies for that. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:07, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

I noticed that Vaibhavafro added Pappu to article as Rahul Gandhi's nickname. I thought it should be removed because it is defamatory and is only used by a handful of people, in a similar fashion to how Modi has been called feku and gappu by his critics and reported by many WP:RS and WP:SECONDARY sources such as Firstpost and BBC . This doesn't make it his nickname, hence the WP:BLP violation. This has been discussed many times here and here, in the past. So I reverted his addition but he restored the content again. I did not revert his edit again as you can see on the page’s edit history. DBigXray reverted his own edit, not me, I really wish that the edit history was double checked before false accusations were hurled at me.- Akhiljaxxn (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Akhiljaxxn You are correct that I was in error about the final revert, I have corrected that above. I apologize for that error. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:10, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

DES It is incorrect to state that No discussion on this was done on talk page, I discussed it with Vaibhavafro on his talk page, [2] [3] after which he replied stating he is OK and then he WP:BLANKED it [4] and did not take it further. So the matter was already resolved there. There was no need to start this thread, unless of course you want to be a party in this dispute.

FYI Talk:Rahul_Gandhi/Archive_1#Pappu has already discussed this in detail and there is no consensus to add it. I also agree that it does not add any value to the article. --Happy Holidays! ᗙ DBigXrayᗙ 19:17, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

DES thanks for accepting the facts of the incident, and making the necessary amendments. I am marking this as resolved. regards. --Happy Holidays! ᗙ DBigXrayᗙ 20:14, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Resolved

DBigXray. Vaibhavafro, Akhiljaxxn, and all other interested editors: If all consider the matter resolved, I am pleased. If anyone wants to reinsert the "Pappu" reference, I would strongly urge discussing here on the article talk page first. I did read the sources cited in the now-reverted edit. It seems there is no question that some people have used this term for Rahul Gandhi. It was even stated that he had used it of himself at least once, if I understood correctly. I am not sure that I fully understand the implications of this term, or just how widely and consistently it has been used. Those are matters best discussed here on the article talk page, if possible (and if needed). If it is used by "only a few people" there seems little reason to include it. Not everything that the news reports is relevant to an article here. On the other hand, we do not keep unfavorable content out if it is well-sourced and significant. None of this should be new to anyone here, i just give a reminder. I cane to this from a post at the Teahouse. I have edited on India-related articles on occasion, but not extensively, and I do not speak any of the languages of India other than English. My only interest here is the calm and orderly improvement of Wikipedia, in accord with opur policy. Feel free to reach out to me if you want an uninvolved admin in future. Again, I apologize for my errors above. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:30, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

I and DBigXray have already discussed this (as mentioned by him above). No need to take this further. Regards.— Vaibhavafro ^💬 10:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

Infobox photo

Can we have a more recent photo in infobox? Currently used photo is from feb 2008. This was discussed earlier in feb 2017 but at that time they could not find a copyright-free photo. Now, I have uploaded this photo from loksabha.nic.in. Can we use this in infobox? —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 11:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Sarvatra, I am ok with your proposal. DBigXrayᗙ 11:02, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

shows the face clearly, is recent, and follows rest of the MOS:LEADIMAGE. No issues. —usernamekiran(talk) 11:17, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Right. I have changed the image. —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 16:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Positions held

Hello. Should following content (with improvements, and refs) be added in "positions held" section?
===Within party===
In March 2004, Rahul Gandhi announced his entry into politics. From 25 September 2007 to 19 January 2013, Gandhi held the positiom of General Secretary of Indian National Congress. Starting also from 25 September 2007, upto 10 December 2017; Gandhi was first chairperson (postion established) of Indian Youth Congress. He has been Chair of National Students’ Union of India, from 25 September 2007; a position which was newly created. Gandhi holds the chair as of January 2020. Starting from 19 January 2013 to 16 December 2017, he was vice president of the Indian National Congress party, a position that was newly established. On 16 December 2017, Gandhi became president of the party, after which the post of vice president was abolished.

• I collected the above information from the article itself. —usernamekiran(talk) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
• or maybe a table could be better here? —usernamekiran(talk) 06:02, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

• pinging @DESiegel, DBigXray, Vaibhavafro, and Akhiljaxxn: —usernamekiran(talk) 13:03, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

  Usernamekiran, I can see there is a table already in that section. feel free to add to that table along with reliable sources. I dont see any reason not to add these, as long as they are reliably sourced. DBigXrayᗙ 13:10, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

  @DBigXray: well, the table has the posts he held/holds outside the party. And also, I do not want to be associated with the subject of this article at all (see the last few sections of this talk page). Also also, I dont have a computer for few more days/weeks. Editing is sort of difficult for me. —usernamekiran(talk) 13:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

  Usernamekiran, I am not sure what you are trying to say. The posts held should include all major posts inside and outside party held by the subject. what is the concern here ? What about the last few sections ? By editing this talk page you are already as associated with the subjects as anyone else who edited this page and also participated in the section above. Not sure what the concern really is. regarding the time and PC access. there is no hurry, it can be done at anytime and anyone. DBigXrayᗙ 13:38, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

  @DBigXray: Its just, about an year ago before my activity decreased, I used to heavily edit articles regarding organised crime community, intelligence community, and extraordinarily brainy/intelligent people in general. So obviously I dont want to edit this article lol. Talking about the edit, currently the article has one table in the main body. That table only describes the posts held outside the party (sort of non-NPOV in my view). I think we should add one more table below it, for only the posts held within the party. —usernamekiran(talk) 21:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

  Usernamekiran, why not merge both tables in a chronological manner ? DBigXrayᗙ 21:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

  @DBigXray: I already feel the article is biased in favour of the subject. These posts were not held one after another. Some in-party posts were held for two terms of MLA. Grouping them together in one table would be inconvenient for readers. —usernamekiran(talk) 22:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

DBigXray I created the following table. Would you kindly check it for accuracy/mistakes, and help me fill in the missing data, and posts if missed any? Thanks. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Year	Position	Preceded by	Succeeded by
2007 - 2013	General secretary of INC	??	??
2007 - 2013	Chairperson of Indian Youth Congress	Position established	Amrinder Singh Raja Warring
2007 - current (as of 2020)	Chairperson of NSUI	Position established	In office
2013 - 2016	Vice president of INC	Position established	Position abolished
2017 - 2019	President of INC	Sonia Gandhi	Sonia Gandhi

---

—usernamekiran(talk) 19:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Usernamekiran, the table needs refs, so that it can be verified. DBigXrayᗙ 05:54, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. updates being discussed. If you have sources, please add them. DBigXrayᗙ 05:55, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

@DBigXray: thanks for the template, also for helping with the table as I requested above (checking accuracy, finding the missing data among other things). I have added this unreferenced table as a subsection of unreferenced table of "positions held", which is under the unreferenced table of "Electoral Performances". I will add the refs as time allows. Thanks a lot again. —usernamekiran(talk) 07:04, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

The edit request was needlessly lingering, so I put an end to its misery. The discussion/efforts can continue. --DBigXrayᗙ 10:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

new section

​ Hi. How about creating a new section "political statements"? It will be in accordance with WP:CSECTION. —usernamekiran(talk) 11:54, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

That will not be a violation of CSECTION. But why cant they be covered in Political views. Comments are views and this is how they are generally done in BIOs. Also not every comment deserves a mention in the article. Only major and important ones. The politicians give some or the other comments daily.--DBigXrayᗙ 12:03, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2020

Hi, I would like to add some details on some old case in supreme Court on the 'alleged' wrongdoing in Rafale Deal. As mentioned in current version:The government has denied any wrongdoing in the Rafale deal and the case is being heard by the Supreme Court of India.. in Indian general elections, 2019 section.

May be please edit as: "The said case was considered by Supreme Court of India and after carefully going through all the evidences, has dismissed the case and exonerated the Current Govt. Of India."

Can I be permitted or someone eligible to make the relevant edits to the article? If done so, it would be more current and relevant. TIA. Santoshdts (talk) 18:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I would like to request Admin of this page to modify some details in Indian general elections, 2019 section. " Please change The government has denied any wrongdoing in the Rafale deal and the case is being heard by the Supreme Court of India to The said case was considered by Supreme Court of India and after carefully going through all the evidences, has dismissed the case and exonerated the Current Govt. Of India." If done so, it would be more current and relevant. TIA. Santoshdts (talk) 13:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

References

To editor Santoshdts:  done. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 15:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 April 2020

The article says, "During his time at Rollins, he assumed the pseudonym Raul Vinci and his identity was known only to the university officials and security agencies" but it is actually his real name, so please remove the word, “pseudonym”—Souniel Yadav (talk) 10:20, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Subramanian Swamy and Arnab Goswami have proved it!—Souniel Yadav (talk) 10:35, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 13:10, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 June 2020

Age 50 2405:204:A42D:BE73:60B0:66EB:3246:7C7E (talk) 04:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. TheImaCow (talk) 08:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2020

"After obtaining degrees in International Relations and Development Studies at the universities of Rollins and Cambridge," Change #1. There is no 'International Relations' degree at Rawlins College. https://www.rollins.edu/evening/academics/undergraduate/international-affairs.html

What degree did he study at Cambridge and when did he graduate? There are no published records/references of him ever getting a degree from Cambridge.

The statement above is incorrect and refers to non existent programs about his education. 162.227.81.87 (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

The cambridge degree appears to be reliably sourced. I've removed the program from Rollins because that is not sourced in the article. --regentspark (comment) 18:32, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit request - atheism

Surely this info in personal life section needs a better source? A statement on personal beliefs by someone other than the subject in a source that's labelled exclusive in the headline doesn't look good for a BLP.Thumpwicca (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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Exploitation of this article

Any particular reason behind exploitation of this article ? People have added what Rahul Gandhi says regularly which creates controversy. Please stop adding things Rahul Gandhi said this, that and created chaos amongst people, journalist criticised him etc etc.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣✅ 15:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Gandhi hails from a long line of politicians, known as the Nehru-Gandhi family, which has occupied a prominent place in the politics of India ever since the country gained independence in 1947. His great-grandfather Jawaharlal Nehru, was the first prime minister of India and also the longest-serving Prime Minister of India having served for a total of seventeen years. Gandhi's grandmother, Indira, was the first female Prime Minister of India and his father, Rajiv, was the youngest prime minister of India to be sworn in to office. Do we really need this sentence ?--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣✅ 12:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 October 2020

Minor grammar/spelling edit . . .

In the second paragraph, it should say "Ghandi spent his early childhood" NOT "Ghandi spend his early childhood" Jhawkgilbo (talk) 11:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2020

Barack Obama's views about Rahul Gandhi from his book should be added to Wikipedia page?

As per Barack Obama's latest book, A promise land, Rahul Gandhi has a nervous, uninformed quality about him which portrays him as a student who is eager to impress but lacks aptitude to master the subject. TriHua (talk) 17:53, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

References

 Not done: Per WP:UNDUE and WP:BLP Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

LBGT to LBGTQ+

Just a naming issue, I think we can change the name of LBGT section to LBGTQ+, as that is the accepted term now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankitharrypotter (talk • contribs) 01:18, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Section on Controversies / Habit of Spreading Misinformation

Several times, Rahul Gandhi is singled out with facts, as leading and habitual in spreading mis-information. Therefore, should there be a section on Controversies related to such activism by Gandhi? - Yash Agarwal (talk) 06:58, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Agree Controversy section may be added.14.139.114.211 (talk) 08:02, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Mentioning the use of "pappu" as an insult

After a discussion at Talk:Pappu#Mentioning Rahul Gandhi, I have opened a dicussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Mentioning the use of "pappu" to insult Rahul Gandhi asking, among other things, whether it would be appropriate to spend a few sentences in a "public perception" section of this article to discuss the use of "pappu" to insult Rahul Gandhi.—Neil Shah-Quinn (talk) 12:42, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Calling Rahul Gandhi as pappu is not insult. As at one occasion he himself admitted to be called as pappu "Han hu mein pappu".14.139.114.211 (talk) 08:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 February 2021

Chorakanad (talk) 19:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

See also

@25 Cents FC: I added an innocuous "See also" section linking to an article connected with the subject (a biopic in this case). Could have incorporated it into the article but since it remains unreleased thought otherwise. Your edit summaries that is has "Make no sense" or "nothing to do with BLP" are unfounded (as is clearly mentioned in the article and its sources). This shouldn't be problematic at all. Gotitbro (talk) 07:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Thanks for reaching out to me. I would like to understand how's the movie is related to the article in anyway. There are lots of movie made on Indian politicians for example Sardar is connected to Vallabhbhai Patel, Madras Cafe depicts story related to Rajiv Gandhi, Hey Ram based on assassination of Mahatma Gandhi, Thackeray tells story of Bal Thackeray (as per the movie of course) and PM Narendra Modi is linked to Narendra Modi. Please refer each article mentioned here, none of them have mention of the films realted (if somehow) in their respective article. Coming to My Name Is Raga, same logic applies to it as well. Moreover, a "See also" section is not mandatory because some high-quality and comprehensive articles do not have one. If you are really want to have see also section I would recommend something that give broad coverage related to Rahul Gandhi, his political journey, NSUI, President of the Indian National Congress etc. If you need help, please check the list of the articles I have mentioned.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣✅ 14:44, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Reach WP:CONSENSUS first before reverting. All of your examples are null as most of them mention the respective films and popular culture in the bios. I would have added a popular culture section here but thought 'see also' would serve as well (might have to do so otherwise seeing the contention now). Depictions of personalities and media perceptions are an important aspect and I see no policy barring me from adding that, your selective linking to articles and arbitrary removal appears to be more of WP:IDONTLIKETHAT than any sound contention. Gotitbro (talk) 00:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Mate, I would be more than happy to reach WP:CONSENSUS. I would also request not to add till we reach to a point whether it should be in the article or not. As you said the examples I have mentioned, most of them mention the respective films and popular culture in the bios. I am not able to see any such thing as you claim. As long as WP:IDONTLIKETHAT is concerned, I have noticed articles related to Congress were heavily edited with personal interest kind of things like Gandhi's girlfriend, what Gandhi's saying everyday, nickname given by political rivals, Gandhi's speeches etc. Please understand I have no problem whatsoever, what I am trying to convey we can refer See also section of articles like Vallabhbhai Patel, Narendra Modi etc and understand what needs to be there in the section. Moreover as per MOS:SEEALSO A "See also" section is not mandatory. Let me know if you still have concerns.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣✅ 07:51, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@25 Cents FC: My intention was not to edit war, I apologize. I am starting to see what the issue might be here. I will add a properly formatted WP:INPOPULARCULTURE section later when I have time, with proper sourcing as is the standard and precedent, rather than See also. That probably shouldn't be problematic. Cheers. Gotitbro (talk) 08:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: No, please do not apologies. I do not hold monopoly to this article, please accept my sincere apology if I have not been able to understand your perspective. "In a popular cuture" is an excellent idea. Go ahead 10/10 .--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣✅ 08:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2021

Hello Wikipedia community; Can anyone please change infobox image of Rahul Gandhi to this one

with caption as Gandhi in 2013;

I. It's of better quality as it shows his face clearly unlike this latest one which only showed side look therefore of worst quality.

II. The image which I suggested is in infobox from last 7 years untill a vandal changed it without consensus on article talk page.

Do it soon. 2409:4051:98:E25A:60A3:A933:71B:3F71 (talk) 02:22, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, acrtually current image is the latest one and the one you are recommending is of 2013. Though have put the one you have asked to, considering the the fact that it indeed shows only side look.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 13:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Suggestions welcome

Hi there- I am in process of re-writing the article with having contemporary topics. In the meanwhile please expect removal of contents having daily news and analysis kind of things. Upon checking about this politician I found that, he is an prominent opposition leader in Indian politics, as a result daily news materials have been added. I will try to improve refs as well. Please guide me with your suggestions. Thank you.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 13:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Ordinance on Convicted Lawmakers This seems more like a law is passed, Rahul Gandhi expressed his views and it created controversy. I google about this and all I found is controversies and how his own party is embarassed via his view about the ordinance.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 13:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Farmers' and Land Agitation part has been moved to under section Gandhi's view.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 05:58, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 July 2021

ShellPandey (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Please change "In the National Herald corruption case, the Delhi High Court dismissed the appeals of Gandhi Sonia Gandhi" to "In the National Herald corruption case, the Delhi High Court dismissed the appeals of Sonia Gandhi"

There is an extra Gandhi in the sentence that should be removed. Thanks --ShellPandey (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 August 2021

103.154.36.64 (talk) 13:42, 25 August 2021 (UTC)he is called the king of indian sercularism

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:51, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Rahul Gandhi's marital life.

Please throw some light on Rahul Gandhi's marital life. He is 51 already. 117.195.199.178 (talk) 01:51, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 November 2021

he is also called "Pappu" and for reference see this https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/rahul-gandhi-pappu-1293314-2018-07-23 so add this name in other name section infobox2405:201:3000:4156:A4E8:4EDE:CDFF:5FE8 (talk) 15:34, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Pappu became the name to mock Rahul Gandhi in the run up to 2014 Lok Sabha elections. We don't add nicknames used by political opponents as names in the infobox. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2021

His nickname is Pappu so add this information in infobox. and for reference see this https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/rahul-gandhi-pappu-1293314-2018-07-23 and https://www.indiatvnews.com/elections/maharashtra-assembly-polls-2019-rahul-gandhi-pappu-sanjay-nirupam-congress-not-bjp-554906 2401:4900:51D8:A73E:8825:AD45:34D0:AD8A (talk) 07:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:12, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Edit request

Change "Gandhi have held following positions" to "Rahul Gandhi has held the following positions". Copyedit. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 09:25, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thank you very much :) — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 10:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 May 2022

I want to add some information like his religion is Islam and etc. If you want to let people know reality you can change it otherwise give me permission. 27.100.13.196 (talk) 13:55, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. make sure to provide reliable sources as well! 💜  melecie  talk - 14:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Religion of rahul gandhi must be clear mentioned in wikipedia

As an indian we not know religion of rahul gandhi. My humble request to Wikipedia to update religion of rahul gandhi to avoid fake news. 2409:4041:6E98:7202:7C1C:DE4F:61B9:A8EB (talk) 16:34, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

We would have to have a statement by him, that’s the way we work. We can’t use what others claim. Doug Weller talk 17:44, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

[https://www.pgurus.com/who-is-rahul-gandhi-hindu-or-catholic-indian-or-british-who-is-raul-vinci-who-operated-barclays-bank-account/ this] might help Ghodbunder (talk) 16:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ghodbunder that's useless, it's what he says that counts. Doug Weller talk 16:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller pgurus is not a reliable source. Here is his statement that you are looking for.

1. I am Hindu but not Hindutvavadi: Rahul Gandhi,

2. "'I am a Hindu, not Hindutvawadi': At Jaipur rally, Rahul Gandhi slams BJP". The Indian Express. 13 December 2021. Venkat TL (talk) 05:00, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

gotcha he is a hindu Ghodbunder (talk) 05:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

but what is hindutvavadi?Ghodbunder (talk) 05:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

RSS. Venkat TL (talk) 05:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

It meanders Hindutva. Doug Weller talk 07:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Doug Weller talk 07:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 May 2022

*national herald

gandhi is being grilled by ED for 3 days straight, section may be updated, wikipedia users must know being corrupt in India is tougher after Modi raj Ghodbunder (talk) 16:24, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/national-herald-case-live-updates-rahul-gandhi-ed-congress-protests-june-14-2022-101655178179280.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghodbunder (talk • contribs) 16:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

plz add this " On Monday (June 13), Rahul Gandhi appeared before the Enforcement Directorate after he was issued summons by the central agency in connection to a money laundering case related to the National Herald case.

He was interrogated for several hours and his statement was recorded under the Section 50 of the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA)."

in this Rahul Gandhi#National Herald corruption case section Ghodbunder (talk) 12:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: WP:UNDUE unless arrested and convicted. Read WP:BLPCRIME and WP:NOTNEWS Venkat TL (talk) 13:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Venkat TL (talk) 13:23, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 June 2022

kindly request you to change the birthyear to 1969 as he himself mentions that he is 53, not 52. 49.205.136.194 (talk) 12:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

date of infobox image

The description of infobox image says "official portrait, 2013". The metadata of File:Rahul Gandhi (full).jpg says February, 2008. This should be corrected. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

"YOUNG INDIAN" named company opened by Rahul Gandhi and family

Young Indian is a Private incorporated on 23 November 2010. It is classified as Non-govt company and is registered at Registrar of Companies, Delhi. Its authorized share capital is Rs. 500,000 and its paid up capital is Rs. 500,000. It is inolved in Business activities n.e.c.

Young Indian's Annual General Meeting (AGM) was last held on 30 December 2020 and as per records from Ministry of Corporate Affairs (MCA), its balance sheet was last filed on 31 March 2020.

Directors of Young Indian are Mallikarjuna Mapanna Kharge, Sonia Gandhi, Pawan Kumar Bansal, Satyan Gangaram Pitroda, Rahul Gandhi, Suman Dubey, .

Young Indian's Corporate Identification Number is (CIN) U74999DL2010NPL210686 and its registration number is 210686.Its Email address is youngindianco@gmail.com and its registered address is 5A, Herald House Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg Delhi DL 110002 IN , - , .

Current status of Young Indian is - Active. 223.178.213.117 (talk) 16:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Bharat Jodo Yatra § New Images

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bharat Jodo Yatra § New Images. 2405:201:D01B:6957:2051:65D4:D0C0:E9E5 (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 November 2022

Need to add few unknown facts about Rahul Jee 49.249.68.50 (talk) 10:01, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:34, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Please change mistake in Rahul Gandhi

Before Rahul, Many leaders like Arjun Singh and Jitendra Prasada taking vice president of Indian National Congress. So please change it. Viruthika2022 (talk) 07:45, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Punctuation

Could an established article please fix the article punctuation? For example, independent clauses need to be set off by both opening and closing commas.

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Education

In the first part, the subjects of his graduation and degree are not clear. What did he actually study? This information needs to be verified and added. J.wiki.16 (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Done

Conviction date 23 MARCH

Conviction date should be 23 MARCH 2023, not 23 February 103.77.42.174 (talk) 09:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 March 2023

Add sub-section 2.6.2 Defamation case under the subheading [[5]] & add the following content

During an election rally in the 2019 elections, Rahul Gandhi said, “Nirav Modi, Lalit Modi, Narendra Modi… how come they all have Modi as a common surname? How come all thieves have Modi as a common surname?” A case was filed against Rahul Gandhi by Gujarat BJP leader Purnesh Modi for making derogatory comments against the Modi community in Gujarat. In March 2023, Surat District Court held Rahul Gandhi guilty in criminal defamation case filed against him over his remarks insulting the Modi surname.

The court sentenced Rahul Gandhi 2 years in jail and imposed 15,000 Rs fine after finding him guilty.

https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/breaking-surat-court-convicts-rahul-gandhi-in-defamation-case-over-modi-surname-remark-224531

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rahul-gandhi-guilty-in-2019-modi-surname-defamation-case-3885663

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/rahul-gandhi-surat-court-defamation-case-guilty-modi-surname-8513881/

https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/breaking-surat-court-convicts-rahul-gandhi-in-defamation-case-over-modi-surname-remark-224531 BlackOrchidd (talk) 06:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

 Already done — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 March 2023 (2)

please add this article

The Surat District Court on Thursday sentenced Congress MP Rahul Gandhi to two years' imprisonment in a criminal defamation case filed against him over his alleged 'Modi surname' remark. He was later granted bail by the court. "The court has suspended the punishment for 30 days and granted bail to Rahul Gandhi," said an advocate at Surat district court. Meanwhile, Union law minister Kiren Rijiju outside Parliament said, "I will see the details of the order before I say anything. Whatever Rahul Gandhi speaks it always affects the Congress party and the entire nation in a negative way. Some Congress MPs told me that because of his attitude, Congress is suffering."

Rahul Gandhi gets two years' imprisonment over 'Modi surname' remark, granted bail https://www.awazthevoice.in/india-news/rahul-gandhi-gets-two-years-imprisonment-over-modi-surname-remark-granted-bail-20297.html

RajeshSingh01 (talk) 10:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree on this. Jeaucques (talk) 10:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

 Already done — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 March 2023

Change "2023 Conviction On 23 February 2023"

to

"On 23 March, 2023" 103.148.39.251 (talk) 07:25, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: There's no need for a comma when using the Day/Month/Year format, see WP:DMY. Nythar (💬-🍀) 07:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC) – Striking incorrect interpretation. Nythar (💬-🍀) 14:17, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Term ends on 23 March 2023

Term ends on 23 March 2023 100rabharat (talk) 11:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, Date of conviction=date of DQ it is mentioned in the notification itself (5th line of main body) [6]https://loksabha.nic.in/writereaddata/Updates/EventLSS_638152650032460750_Notification%20-%20Disqualification%20of%20Sitting%20Member.pdf] Ankraj giri (talk) 17:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done — DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Succession Box in 'External links' section

@RegentsPark @Kautilya3 @Skancc @CrusaderForTruth2023 @Gobonobo @Rushtheeditor @TheWikiholic @Tayi Arajakate The infobox has been correctly updated. The subject is no longer a member of parliament. I request an administrator to edit the succession box of the article in 'External links' section. Please edit the tenure of his membership of Lok Sabha for Wayanad, from '2019-present' to '2019-2023'. Also change the successor from 'Incumbent' to 'Vacant' or 'TBD' or whatever you shall find appropriate. EditorIndex (talk) 09:15, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@EditorIndex  Done. Also, your pings didn't go. See Help:Talk pages#Notifications — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:26, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Alright, Thank you. EditorIndex (talk) 12:56, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Adding dead link template

Kindly add dead link to reference number 13 as the article it refers to is not available anymore. Adilalishah 17:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done I've replaced with TIE — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:49, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Reason for conviction

@Tayi Arajakate Can you please clarify exactly which part of my edit violated BLP. I provided the exact quotation from a open verdict which I got from a cited source, detailing the actual reason for his conviction. I did this because the previous one, which you've reintroduced, is incorrect. He is not convicted for defaming Narendra Modi, but for defaming people who have the surname "Modi".

Also can you please clarify how the incorrect fact of "defaming Narendra Modi", which you reintroduced, without citing any new source, is not violative of BLP? To me it's very obviously violating BLP because it's not the "right" information. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 17:07, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

The sentence you introduced is a very clear BLP violation.

Regarding what I "re-introduced", the line states that he was convicted for "statements in a 2019 speech made against the Prime Minister Narendra Modi" which is accurate, not that the conviction was for "defaming Narendra Modi". The facts and technicalities related to the case are present in the body and can't be introduced in the lead without it being excessive and therefore undue. Regardless of whatever the magistrate's verdict says, we have to follow how high quality reliable sources have covered this and they do not state that the statements themselves were made against any caste/community.

More than anything, note that WP:BLP states "it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives" and that material should be "presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone". Tayi Arajakate _Talk 17:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Just claiming something violated BLP doesn't mean it is. You are again requested to clarify exactly which part of my edit violated BLP.

The line stating he was convicted "for statements in a 2019 speech made against the Prime Minister Narendra Modi" is NOT accurate. This line is confusing and "sensationalist" among other things because it actively insinuates that this conviction was for "defaming Narendra Modi", which is the "wrong" reason. The very fact that you had to clarify this is proof that this sentence is unsuitable, especially since its under BLP. BLP states "Wikipedia must get the article right". See the emphasis on "right". The very fact that you quote BLP saying it must be "presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone" putting a subjective POV which violates all of the above ethos is astounding. This is not responsible presentation in any way and definitely isn't conservative with its major insinuations. Your "reintroduced lines" violates BLP because it omits the actual reason of the conviction and insinuates something completely different from the actual reason.

My statement didn't introduce any "facts and technicalities related to the case", it simply gave the "exact" reason for the conviction, which I quoted from one of the cited sources. It was concise and to the point because that's what the verdict itself says. If anyone had problems with the exact quotation, then they are always free to paraphrase or create a more concise version keeping the actual meaning intact. You cannot omit necessary and important parts of a sentence and introduce a incorrect & biased line just because of an incorrect sense of what is "excessive" or what you believe Wikipedia policies like BLP, BRP or Onus to be. They are not there to GATEKEEP correct information but to merely regulate.

Can you clarify how my statements don't "follow how high quality reliable sources"? Why should the magistrate's verdict be not followed when it came from the high quality sources already cited?

Can you clarify which "high quality reliable sources" you used to come to the exact structure of your sentence, i.e. "for statements in a 2019 speech made against the Prime Minister Narendra Modi" while omitting the very basic necessary information about the nature of the statements? Why do you think the omission of the nature of the statements responsible for the conviction is valid and beneficial for the article?

I agree with you in that a line mentioning a caste/community, in this context (not all the times), would be invalid. But my statement had no mention of such. The idea of a "modi community" is a sensationalist conclusion because no such community was mentioned in the verdict itself. But mentioning that the defamation was against people who had the same Modi surname, which is the exact reason declared by the court, doesn't fall under this. The insinuation of a hatred against a caste/community here would violate BLP and that is avoided by presenting the actual fact, just like I did it.

I will also remind you of the Wikipedia:3RR policy and request you to abide by all the rules.

In accordance to Wikipedia:Consensus and Wikipedia:AVOIDEDITWAR I will also tag @CrusaderForTruth2023, whose similar edits were reverted by you. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 19:14, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree. Infact my recent edits were rolledback by someone without even giving any reason. (How convenient to remove someone's edit without any justification).

I can present the exact judgement where it clearly stated that Rahul Gandhi is sentenced on ground of defamation of an entire community by his remark. Can refer to my references of BarBench and LiveLaw. (Not to mention I am extremely well versed in Indian Law and Constitution) CrusaderForTruth2023 (talk) 19:19, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I am adding back the info to the article based on the sources. Please see to it that it is not reverted without conclusive discussion since it is based on reliable sources. @SoloKnowHow83 CrusaderForTruth2023 (talk) 19:21, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Based on the Criminal Defamation Suit Order made by the Surat District Court on 23 March 2023 in Purnesh Modi vs Rahul Gandhi and Ors. (Constitutes exact specifying of why convicted based on judgement to avoid confusion)

That's the summary of my edit @SoloKnowHow83please carry forward from here for some time till I return back online. CrusaderForTruth2023 (talk) 19:35, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles aren't written based on the text of a primary court document, but rather on how reliable secondary sources document incidents. To do so verges of synthesis and original research, also note that the neutral point of view policy defines neutrality as representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic which means content in articles need to be reflective of the framing present in the sources. High quality secondary sources themselves have summarised and frame it in the following manner.

The Congress MP was convicted by the court in Gujarat state for 2019 comments about Prime Minister Narendra Modi's surname at an election rally.
— BBC News

An Indian court Thursday found opposition leader Rahul Gandhi guilty of defamation for a 2019 campaign trail remark implying that Prime Minister Narendra Modi was a criminal.
— France 24

He was convicted in connection with a 2019 speech in which he linked the prime minister’s family name to that of two Indian fugitives accused of swindling millions of dollars, Nirav Modi and Lalit Modi.
— The New York Times

A court in India has found the opposition leader Rahul Gandhi guilty of defamation for a remark implying the country’s prime minister, Narendra Modi, was a criminal.
— The Guardian

To either state that the remark was made against a caste or community (something Crusader has been introducing diff) is not reflected in any of these sources. Nor does any of them validate the statement the remark was made "to satisfy his political greed and insulted and defamed 13 crore people living in the whole of India having the surname Modi" (introduced by SoloKnowHow diff). These are both sensationalist, unsourced or poorly sourced and make extraordinary claims of maliciousness in wiki-voice, making them very clear BLP violations. Please, do not re-introduce them, I won't repeat this.

At the very best the sources mention that the conviction is with respect to the surname which could perhaps represented in a similar form, as a compromise. It does not matter whatever the views of the magistrate may be when secondary sources covering the conviction do not give it any weight, to the contrary it's near unanimously framed in the context of the political opposition being targetted. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 07:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

I would also highly recommend that you read the policies and guidelines, none of this is "my belief". For one, WP:ONUS which very clearly states that verifiability doesn't guarantee inclusion, even if your edits were to be supported by reliable sources (which is not very clear here since a lot of this is merely asserted), The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. To state that it is "gatekeeping" on the first response when not even 12 hours have passed doesn't bode well.

This is especially relevant for BLPs which emphasises that "[c]ontentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." Tayi Arajakate _Talk 08:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Although I will not continue to argue for the exact implementation of the parts included by me due to the doubts about the source material I derived it from, nonetheless I have a huge problem with the present version as included by you.

The present version of the contentious line is "he was convicted and sentenced to two years imprisonment by a court in Gujarat for statements in a 2019 speech made against the Prime Minister Narendra Modi on defamation allegations related to his surname;"

None of your sources mention the fact that the conviction was "for statements in a 2019 speech made against the Prime Minister Narendra Modi...", which is the present version in the article. Let's evaluate the summaries provided by you and compare them to the above quoted portion. BBC News merely mentions "comments about PM Modi's surname" as the reason for conviction while France 24 and Guardian uses "defamation remark implying the country's PM...was a criminal". NY Times gives a better factual statement while mentioning only "in connection" to the concerned speech with no mention "for... speech made against the Prime Minister Narendra Modi". In conclusion none of the sources say that the conviction was for statements against the PM. You mentioned in the previous reply that "all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic which means content in articles need to be reflective of the framing present in the sources". Your framing in this part is nowhere reflective of the sources given and this part is a deliberate addition by you. It's also great that you've mentioned WP:ONUS, according to which you have the burden here to establish consensus on this disputed line. Therefore until there's a general consensus to the contrary, the "for statements in a 2019 speech made against the Prime Minister" should be removed and you must seek for consensus if you want to include it. The fact that "contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." should be relevant here too.

You also mention that "at the very best the sources mention that the conviction is with respect to the surname which could perhaps represented in a similar form, as a compromise". Yes, I agree with the sentiment but not with the particular execution here. The "defamation allegations related to his surname" part is valid and should be kept while removing all parts which directly mentions the speech against the PM as the reason for the conviction.

In a general context, I will also be happier if more diverse and indigenous sources are used instead of just the western ones to validate information and materials. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 19:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Tayi Arajakate Can you please acknowledge my reply above. Thank you. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 15:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

It takes some great leaps of logic to say that the sources do not frame the conviction, etc being for a speech against Narendra Modi when the sources say exactly that as I've have already shown above. Disputes need some reasonable ground, there is none here.

If you want I could replace the entire sentence and practically mimic (as far as possible without copyvios) the sources with something like "Rahul Gandhi was ... for a 2019 speech against Narendra Modi implying that he was a criminal." Tayi Arajakate _Talk 21:23, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Firstly you cannot single-handedly ignore Wikipedia guidelines and policies just because you think so. You have not provided any reason why the contentious issue is not reasonable.

Thirdly, other established and trustworthy sources like Indian Express says the conviction reason to be "his remarks about the Modi surname”; not "speech made against Narenda Modi". This version goes in line with the actual unbiased reason and therefore is the best fit.

Therefore according to Wikipedia policy of Wikipedia:ONUS, Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and others, I am removing the contentious part until you get consensus to include the contentious parts. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 15:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

One source which frames something to your liking doesn't outweigh all others which frame something not to your liking. At this point, you are just removing a well sourced line by simply citing "WP:ONUS" without articulating any policy based reasoning on why it does not belong. This is stonewalling 101. Nor have you articulated how it doesn't comply with "WP:BLP" and it's a quite rich coming from you after you had inserted a line with no sources which stated in wikivoice that Rahul Gandhi was politically greedy and had insulted 13 crore people (diff).

Since you seem to be asking what my grounds for keeping the sentence, I'll repeat and simplify it for you. It doesn't matter whether it is "contentious", the sentence reflects how the vast majority of high quality reliable sources have framed it, that the conviction was "for the speech/remarks against Narendra Modi" and not just the "Modi surname" in isolation.

RegentsPark, can you take a look at this? It has become a conduct issue now. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 18:54, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

"One source which frames something to your liking doesn't outweigh all others which frame something not to your liking". The irony of this statement coming from you is just astonishing. You have not explained why the specific contentious part should be kept despite being asked multiple times. Accusing me of stonewalling while you act in bad faith just to defend your incorrect version is nonsensical. You have to take "all the significant views" which means a view which is agreed by all sources must be kept while other contentious ones should be rejected until consensus is achieved.

I have explained why your edit violated WP:ONUS and WP:BLP numerous times in the past replies. It's not my problem when you don't read my replies. The sources, all western ones, don't say anything about "...against the PM" and I have explained why in details by going through the summaries you gave from these sources. At best you can add "in connection to the PM" but that also needs consensus because other established sources refute such statements. The actual reason for the conviction was just for defaming people with the Modi surname as mentioned in the judicial order as agreed by a reliable Indian source; just because majority of the sources provided here add different sensational and contentious stuff doesn't mean it has to be included as WLP policy is very clear "Wikipedia must get the article right."

"...it's a quite rich coming from you after you had inserted a line with no sources which stated in wikivoice that Rahul Gandhi was politically greedy and had insulted 13 crore people (diff)." The source is Bar and Bench and FYI this source was already a part of the article until it got deleted by someone else. I have mentioned in a past reply that due to the reliability issue of the source, I don't continue to support that version. I don't know why you're falsely accusing me of inserting lines with no sources or why even bring this issue in this conversation when I have backtracked from that position. This conversation is not about my edit but about yours. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 17:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

• @SoloKnowHow83: Since you're making the change, the onus is on you to get consensus for the change. Perhaps WP:DR?--RegentsPark (comment) 01:00, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

  Ordinarily yes but Wikipedia:ONUS mentions that "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." I am not trying to include disputed content here but remove it until @Tayi Arajakate gets consensus to add it. I have explained why this is disputed content multiple times and that removal of such content is essential under Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons as contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

  What you did was removed part of a sentence and modified the rest to turn it into the version you like.

  Look in the end, the sources are pretty clear and the main issue you seem to have is with them as you have said that they "add different sensational and contentious stuff" and that the "actual reason" is different, so really you should be bringing it up with them. The sentence is cited to NPR (RSP entry), NBC News (RSP entry), France 24, Sky News (RSP entry), BBC News (RSP entry), The New York Times (RSP entry) and The Guardian (RSP entry) which are all fairly high quality and for which there is consensus that they are reliable sources. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 10:11, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Request for attention and inputs Taking context of this and some other similar previous discussions inputs are requested @ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Legal#Attention to updating of MOS guidelines Bookku (talk) 10:45, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

  What content iis being discussed? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

  @ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Legal#Attention to updating of MOS guidelines we are discussing protocol/guideline for primacy of sources. Nitty-gritties of content is not directly relevant to me for the co-ordination of the discussion. To whom details are relevant to apply those guidelines can discuss. Bookku (talk) 04:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Streamline the text and reduce repetition

The first introduction section has many points that are repeated in the lower sections. This needs to be streamlined and duplicate parts need to be removed to make it reader-friendly J.wiki.16 (talk) 16:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to attention. Working on it. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 14:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 July 2023

Change current photo to previous offical portrait Itv0007 (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cherrell410^{(t · c)} 16:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Appears that this edit changed the image from a 2013 official portrait to an image from 2022. The 2022 image does currently have a deletion request with all comments so far for delete. Ravensfire (talk) 19:45, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rahul_Gandhi&diff=prev&oldid=1165478642

This change should be undone as the image appears fake. Previous 2013 offical portrait should be placed. Itv0007 (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Image Change Request

The current image is older than previous one. Kindly restore the previous portrait.

Image Name- Rahul Gandhi (portrait crop).jpg Itv0007 (talk) 16:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

General Elections

Merging both the general elections part as it will reduce lengthiness of the section. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 12:21, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand this change. There are 3 general election sections. This barely reduces the length and takes things out of chronological order. --Onorem (talk) 12:27, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 August 2023

I want to fix grammar in the sentence - "Due to the security threats faced by Indira Gandhi's family from Sikh extremists, Gandhi, and his sister, Priyanka was home-schooled thereafter."

To

"Due to the security threats faced by Indira Gandhi's family from Sikh extremists, Gandhi, and his sister, Priyanka were home-schooled thereafter."

Change "was" to "were". ApocalypseWater (talk) 16:21, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 17:28, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Addition of Bharat Jodo Nyay Yatra to the Politial Career Section

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Jodo_Nyay_Yatra This is the wiki page on this yatra but the current Rahul Gandhi page doesn't mention anything about it in. Please add it. The yatra alreadh has a dedicated website dedicated to it: https://bharatjodonyayyatra.com "bharatjodonyayyatra" (talk) 14:14, 14 January 2024 (UTC)