Talk:Rail Baltica

Map issues

Someone needs to explain what the dashed lines on the map route indicate.Dogru144 (talk) 18:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The recently added [1] explanation that "The dashed line is the alternative with an upgraded old railway" is not quite correct: there is no existing railway from the Polish border to Vilnius, or from Panevezis to Riga, or around Riga. The line is just an artist's view of several alternative and intermediate routes. The solid line is the suggested final route, compare it with the maps Feasibily Study [2], Figures 1.2 and 1.3. -- Beil (talk) 13:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Integration or disintegration

One of the project's aspects is the conversion of the Baltic States' rail network to Standard Gauge (1,435 mm/4 ft 8 1⁄2 in), thus improving rail integration with Europe at the expense of integration with the Russian system (1,520 mm/4 ft 11 5⁄6 in). Isn't it ment to be ... at the expense of disintegration with the Russian system ? --Edroeh (talk) 19:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Rail Baltica should choose 1520mm gauge lines to Paris Nord, France, instead of 1435mm gauge lines to Tallin, Estonia. In addition, EU should fund French rail networks, not Baltic States. Population in Baltic States is shrinking, while population in France is increasing.

• Spain/Portugal: gauge conversion from 1668mm to 1435mm
• Baltic States: 1435mm gauge line (3kV DC) to Kaunas, Lithuania
• France: loading gauge enlargement
• CIS states, Baltic States, Poland, Germany, Belgium, France, Slovakia, Austria: 1520mm gauge lines (25kV 50Hz AC) to Paris, France
• Finland, Estonia: Helsinki-Tallin tunnel should be built at 1520mm gauge (double-track, 25kV 50Hz AC)

180.196.226.152 (talk) 03:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Building the Helsinki/Tallinn tunnel in russian gauge would not make much sense. Rail Baltica also serves to introduce standard gauge into the baltic states, and once Tallinn is reached, also Finland will be within its reach. This is a historic chance for Finland to gradually convert parts of its network to standard gauge. - Also, as Russia clearly won't allow any sections of standard gauge on its territory, we should not reward their negative attitude with any concessions in the gauge field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.55.92.22 (talk) 05:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Rail Baltica as EU project - which does not cover the section Warsaw-Berlin - will go for 1435mm in the Baltic States 158.169.131.14 (talk) 08:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Russia is invited to leave its self-imposed isolation, but not by trying to impose its incompatible gauge on Europe. A realistic approach could be to split its network into a domestic part in 1520 mm and an international (transit) part, to be regauged to/built in 1435 mm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.168.113.209 (talk) 17:03, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

May 2011

May 2011 is gone. Are there news about the estonian route and the chosen standard? --Edroeh (talk) 19:32, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Electrification system of 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge railway near Baltic States is 3 kV DC only. 180.199.25.146 (talk) 07:53, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

controversies

"Rail Baltica could be a sustainable sound alternative to the planned Via Baltica motorway which has proved controversial on environmental grounds. In contrast to Via Baltica, the implementation of the Rail Baltica project could become a good practical example of sustainable and efficient utilisation of the Cohesion and Structural Funds, bringing social and economical benefits, as well as environmental and climatic improvements."

- It hasn't proved controversial, but somebody payed Greenpeace to stop project. Everybody, but Greenpeace is for this road.

"Railways currently have a low number of passengers along the route, especially in Estonia and Latvia. International and regional travel is done by car, bus and air with very little by train."

- does it mean that track doesn't have sense as a mean of passenger transportation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.231.42.57 (talk) 14:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

First, Wikipedia talk pages are to discuss the content of the article, not to discuss the subject itself, like political priorities. Second, Rail Baltica is a good project in my opinion, but there are high costs, and especially Latvia and Lithuania has trouble with the state financies. The present railways are so slow that bus is a more popular option among those that don't drive themselves.--BIL (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Electrification system?

Do you have a reliable source for your claim that the system used will be 3 kV DC? I find this assertion highly questionable, as the standard nowadays is 25 kV AC, with all 3 countries having sections of this system operational, according to

http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/map.php?file=maps/baltic-states/baltic-states.gif

Also, should the line be extended by tunnel to Finland, they use 25 kV AC too.

The fact that Poland uses 3 kV DC shouldn't make any difference, as multi-system electric locomotives nowadays are standard throughout Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.168.113.209 (talk) 16:37, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Kaunas not mentioned on the map

Hello,

From the current version of the article: "The first phase, known as Rail Baltica I, extends from the Poland-Lithuania border to Kaunas."

However, I don't see Kaunas mentioned on the map. Could this be added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.67.63.226 (talk) 10:48, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Rail Baltica II (standard gauge) must include Sweden

Rail Baltica II (standard gauge) must including Sweden, and needs standard-gauge high-floor level-boarding trains. European gauge (standard gauge) Rail Baltica II consists:

• Electrified double-track standard-gauge railway line with high-level platforms (1,250 mm (49.2 in) height) between Tallinn, Riga, and Kaunas;
• Electrified double-track standard-gauge line from Riga via Ventspils, Oskarshamn, Kalmar, and Karlskrona to Gdynia;
• Portion of electrification and upgrade from Kaunas to Polish border;
• Non-electrified single-track freight-only standard gauge line from Kaunas to Vilnius; and
• Construction of high-level platforms (1,250 mm (49.2 in) height) at Warsaw Central Station.

123.1.10.193 (talk) 02:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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