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Many believe that Ranil’s RAW connections play a significant weight in his political carrier[edit]

Please comply with the Wikipedia guidelines of biographies. The neutrality of an article is expected. Many believe that Ranil’s RAW connections play a significant weight in his political carrier. Therefore, it must be included in his biography. Please note that Wikipedia is not tool for political propaganda. Both sides should be mentioned; else this article would not be recognized with proper recognition. I noticed a lot of flagged comments.

I have substantiated Ranil Wickramasinge’s allegations of RAW involvement by several CONCRETE sources. Please include this in the biography of Ranil Wickramasinghe. Else, this (Raw allegations) would be published under another new Ranil Wickramasinghe Wikipedia page. Furthermore, this will be quarried in Google, alongside the existing Ranil’s biography.

Alleged involvement between Mr. Wickremasinghe and Indian spy's role in former president Rajapaksa’s defeat[edit]

Reuters and other news agencies[1][2]reports that Sri Lanka expelled the Colombo station chief of India's spy agency in the run-up to this month's (Jan 2015) presidential election, political and intelligence sources said, accusing him of helping the opposition oust President Mahinda Rajapaksa. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]

According to Reuters and Aljazeera [1][2], the agent was accused of playing a role in convincing the main leader of the opposition and former Prime Minister Ranil Wickremasinghe not to contest against Rajapaksa in the election and stand aside for someone who could be sure of winning, said the officer and a Sri Lankan lawmaker [2][9][8]who also maintains close contacts with India.[1][4]

"They actively were involved, talking to Ranil, getting those things organised, talking to Chandrika," the lawmaker told Reuters.[1][4][6][2] Wickremasinghe government, met "two or three times" with the man identified as the agent in the months before the vote, as well as with the Indian high commissioner, or ambassador, the prime minister's spokesman said.[1]

However, Mr. Wickremasinghe has not accepted this allegation claiming he had no knowledge of RAW intelligence officer.[1] Mr. Wickremasinghe claims that he had thought this person was a diplomat at the Indian High Commission [4]Also, An Indian foreign ministry spokesman denied any expulsion and said that transfers were routine decisions.[1]

India has often [10][6][7]been involved in the internal politics of Sri Lanka- it sent troops there in 1987 in a botched effort to broker peace between the government and Tamil Tiger rebels.[10]RAW support for the Tamil separatist group, Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka, that brought India’s RAW intelligence agency much criticism from human rights organizations.[10]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prabathsemail (talk • contribs)

It's fair to include the allegations that RAW persuaded Ranil not to contest the election and his rebuttal. But the rest of content doesn't belong here - it's just pandering to Sinhala-Buddhist paranoia about India.--obi2canibetalk contr 14:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not supporting: There is certain source that allegedly referring an interview given by Former Defence Secretary Gotabaya Rajapaksa that suggesting Ranil Wickremesinghe was directly involved in talks with RAW which the Indian Government repeatedly denied the claims made by Rajapaksa factor in UPFA, Few days after allegation by Rajapaksa factor the Foreign Affairs of Sri Lankan Government too did deny the allegation made by Rajapaksa factor, How can this involvement be true? Even that diplomatic was withdrawn from Embassy of India on request of Sri Lankan Government, both sides did deny the allegations on aiding the then opposition candidate Maithripala Sirisena. --Prince Sulaiman Talk to me 11:11, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How is it different from saying that Rajapaksa tried to stage a coup? Both are allegations. Both haven't resulted any legal action. Both have been denied by those allegedly involved.--obi2canibetalk contr 13:59, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Obi2canibe: Please see the date of edit, I had edited it very earlier before these allegations were eventually denied, But actually AG did start an investigation (about 2 days after his term ended) after defeat of Rajapaksa's regime, So in my opinion both are SAME allegation including "RAW" involvement in this election. If you desire to delete the alleged involvement of Rajapaksa, you're free to do that and I'm not interested in blocking anyone from editing long as the source is reliable, even if its allegation its fine. The one critical issue of this case is that this editor is attempting to do this after 8 months, So I don't think it's worth of adding all these old stories back. Mostly, important is the edits should be done in a timed manner so other editors can even deny the allegations by adding the contents from another reliable source like what happened in Rajapaksa's Wikipedia. I hope this doesn't involve conflict of interest. --Prince Sulaiman Talk to me 14:27, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As you introduced the alleged coup content on the Mahinda Rajapaksa article in the first instance, please remove it yourself. Then we are treating MR and RW equally.--obi2canibetalk contr 15:42, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h Chalmers, John; Miglani, Sanjeev. "Indian spy's role alleged in Sri Lankan president's election defeat". Reuters COLOMBO/NEW DELHI. Reuters. Retrieved 18 January 2015.
  2. ^ a b c d e Columns, The Sunday Times. "RAW agent back home". Claims that India’s spy agency RAW’s Colombo station chief K. Ilango had links with the Common Opposition have cost him his job in Colombo. Security sources say the man’s term was extended but transfer orders to him were sudden after the Sri Lanka Government urged New Delhi that he be recalled. A security source said the recall order followed the visit to Colombo of India’s National Security Advisor Ajit Doval. A Defence Ministry official declined comment. The Sunday Times. Retrieved 28 December 2014.
  3. ^ Kurukulasuriya, Lasanda. "The new Indo-Lanka equation — what was India's role?". From the sidelines. The Sunday Times. Retrieved 25 January 2015.
  4. ^ a b c d Al Jazeera. "Power plays behind Sirisena's surprise victory in Sri Lanka". Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera. Retrieved 20 January 2015.
  5. ^ Hindu, The. "Indian spy's role alleged in Sri Lankan President's election defeat". The Hindu. The Hindu. Retrieved 18 January 2015.
  6. ^ a b c Ratnayake, K. "Evidence of India's involvement in regime change in Sri Lanka". World Socialist Web Site. World Socialist Web Site. Retrieved 21 January 2015.
  7. ^ a b Venkataramakrishnan, Rohan. "Why even the murmur that India's RAW interfered in Sri Lanka's elections is dangerous". Scroll.in. Scroll.in. Retrieved 19 January 2015.
  8. ^ a b Kulatunga, K.M.H.C.B.; Aluthgamage, Mahindanada. "Western missions picked common candidate - Minister Mahindanada Aluthgamage". Sunday Observer. Sunday Observer. Retrieved 30 November 2014.
  9. ^ Ferdinando, Shamindra. "Foreign spies helped oust Mahinda – Gota". The Island. The Island. Retrieved 17 March 2015.
  10. ^ a b c Bajoria, Jayshree. "RAW: India's External Intelligence Agency". Council on Foreign Relations. Council on Foreign Relations. Retrieved 07 November 2008. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

NPOV dispute, Economic policies[edit]

Several statements, particularly under the economic policies section, have already been flagged as "citation needed" - these reflect political sloganeering and use unprofessional language which could be seen as libelous against the article's subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mithra26 (talk • contribs) 07:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

THIS ARTICLE IS RIDICOLOUSLY BIASED AND CLEARLY WRITTEN BY A STAFFER. IT NEEDS AN URGENT REWRITE. --123.243.11.211 (talk) 13:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)D.G. Sydney. First of all isn't there a better interface that can be used for discussion?[reply]

ok, I didn't delete it but edited a lot: here are the reasons as per your request. Thank you very much.

  • that "Wickramasinghe exposed the LRRP" is a bit too strong. It was Kulasiri Udugampola who did it, so I changed the para to reflect the fact. Please have a look at the way it is now before reverting.
  • "ultra traitor" just sounds silly teenager gaming messegeboard-cruft. you don't usually use "ultra" as an adjective in literary work with "traitor". Sounding like a teenager won't be of any use, even if your idea is to emphasise, because it will just sound ameterish instead.
  • "majority of Sri Lankans" is unsubstantiated unless you show evidence, I added the fact of his defeat anyway, but there may be other reasons, such as economic hardship, escalating prices etc. So if you insist about a majority opposition, please elaborate why.
  • "veiled from the people of Sri Lanka in a foreign country (I forget which country)" is not enclyclopeadic. If you forgot, then research before you write. By the way, MoU was signed in Sri Lanka, so your claim was not true as well.

I also moved the paragraph to the proper place in time line, hope you would agree. Greenleaf 06:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Plagiarism[edit]

The introduction is copied of here. --Morza (talk) 01:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality disputed[edit]

This article contains a lot of unsourced, glorifying information about the subject. Most of the information is written to glorify the subject and be critical of his opponents. Hence the neutrality is disputed, and if the relevant sections are not cited they will be removedKerr avon (talk) 16:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since much of the " glorify the subject and be critical of his opponents" has been removed by Kerr avon, what the article needs is refs. These will be provided as requested. Cossde (talk) 17:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I'm pretty sure that most of these unsourced content are original research. And the neutrality is also disputed.--Chamith (talk) 08:41, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Spurious name[edit]

I suggest anyone reading this to help remove the spurious "Shriyan" middle name which some genius keeps re-adding, citing sources which patently copied it themselves from Wikipedia, in classic citogenesis fashion. The first source - from the Sri Lankan government! - copied its biography practically wholesale from an old (c. 2007) version of this article, which already had the "Shriyan" (since 2005). This is easily verified through Internet Archive. If the government copies from Wikipedia, one can hardly expect higher standards from the Sri Lankan news sites that are also cited. It is perfectly common, almost inevitable, that a piece of information like that which has been on Wikipedia for over 10 years gets copied by inept journalists. Thus a source pre-2005 is needed, but all are newer - even though the person has been prominent long before, so there should be a source if the name was correct. The parliament website which normally includes full names does not have "Shriyan". Mewulwe (talk) 23:49, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Mewulwe, genius here. It doesn't matter how these sources obtained their information, they are all WP:RS and can be used here. That is how Wikipedia works but I see from your block log that you don't have much time for Wikipedia policies and procedures. Anyway, for future reference, here are the references that you removed:
Your excuse that the Parliament website doesn't have "Shriyan" as reason for not including it in this article doesn't hold weight - see how they don't give the full names of Mahinda Rajapaksa, Namal Rajapaksa, Dinesh Gunawardena and Wimal Weerawansa? And here is the reference that shows that RW is a member of the Mont Pelerin Society that you removed:
The International Democrat Union is an association of political parties. The UNP, not RW, is a member of the IDU.--obi2canibetalk contr 12:44, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have indeed not much time for people who mechanically apply certain rules in flagrant violation of common sense (if you need a "rule" for that, there's the overriding WP:IAR). You don't even begin to try to make a case for the plausibility of the correctness of the name. "Verifiability not truth", right? Doesn't matter if Wikipedia itself creates a world of fictitious yet cited and thus "verifiable" facts! As to the parliament website, I didn't say this is conclusive; ultimately the burden of proof is on the side of inclusion, and for that I maintain you need a pre-2005 source. And I don't care about your Mont Pelerin edit, just make it separately. Mewulwe (talk) 20:40, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mewulwe - do you have consensus for removing "Shriyan" as required by WP:IAR? I was open to the possibility that its not RW's name that's why I went and found WP:RS, of which there were many. You on the other hand are not open to the possibility it may be RW's name. What's wrong with "Shriyan"? Why do you find it offensive? Is it derogatory? From what I can see "Shriyan" was first added by Nalindes on 17 December 2005. If you look at Nalindes edits you will see that he is a UNP/RW supporter so why would he make up a "spurious name"? Your assertion that a pre-2005 source is needed is dodging the fact that WP:RS have been provided and so WP:V has been complied with. With regards to Mont Pelerin, you removed so please re-insert it.--obi2canibetalk contr 16:03, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am perfectly open to the possibility that the name is real, nor suggesting it is offensive or derogatory. But without an earlier source, and all later sources very likely being derived from Wikipedia, there is a good possibility the original editor was somehow mistaken (always more likely than a deliberate hoax), and a potential misinformation shouldn't be perpetuated further. If it's real, there has to be an earlier source, which may turn up sometime. Mewulwe (talk) 17:35, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2018[edit]

Ranil Wikramasinghe is not the current Prime Minister. It was change after 26 October 208. Please Change the Prime Minister from Ranil Wikramasinghe to Mahinda Rajapaksa. Avidu (talk) 06:30, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2018[edit]

124.43.106.200 (talk) 09:37, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 13:16, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2018[edit]

Ranil Wickremasinghe is the former Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. What proceeded on the 26th of October, 2018 was an unconstitutional move as clearly evidenced by multiple legal experts. Refer the sources here:

http://groundviews.org/2018/10/29/of-constitutions-cabinets-and-coups/ https://www.facebook.com/groundviews/videos/770398249975298/

Therefore, my humble request is the Wikipedia does not provide legitimacy to the unconstitutional takeover that occurred in Sri Lanka. Please consider the following edits. 1. Revert the article "Ranil Wickremasinghe" to its original form before 26th of October, 2018, thereby recognizing him as the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. 2. Revert the article "Mahinda Rajapaksa" to its original form before the 26th of October, 2018, revoking his recognition as the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. Chrisjitxavier (talk) 12:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This is a bigger issue that should probably be discussed at WP:SRI LANKA. —KuyaBriBriTalk 13:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2018[edit]

DraganzN (talk) 05:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ranil Wickremesinghe is not Prime Minister of Sri Lanka now. Please change it as Mahinda Rajapaksha.

Source: http://www.dailynews.lk/2018/10/27/local/166702/mahinda-sworn-pm

 Not done for now: Who the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka is is currently under dispute. This is disclosed in the infobox at the top of the article, which states that his role as prime minister is "Disputed with Mahinda Rajapaksa from 26 October 2018". Until the dispute is resolved, this disclaimer is enough. See the full controversy at 2018 Sri Lankan constitutional crisis. DannyS712 (talk) 22:56, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018[edit]

Sri lanka legal Prime Minister is Ms Ranil Wickremesinghe.Sri Lanka Parliament Speaker recognises Ranil Wickremesinghe as Prime Minister.See<ref name="The Hindu">[1]

not sure what you are requesting. Frietjes (talk) 19:07, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Precipitation of the constitutional crisis[edit]

In its current form the text in the section for the 2018 constitutional crisis seems to suggest that it is Wickramasinghe's refusal to accept the President's dismissal the precipitated the constitutional crisis. See quoted text below

"He also informed Ranil Wickremesinghe was removed from office. Wickremesinghe said he refuses to accept the dismissal claiming that it was unconstitutional which triggered a constitutional crisis"

However I would argue that it was the President's dismissal of Wickramasinghe, which was the exercise of an power that had been ostensibly stripped from the presidency with the 19th amendment, and the resulting competing interpretations of the relevant clauses in the constitution that led to the crisis.

I'd like hear if there's any opposition to the position before I edit the text to reflect this.

DanajaT (talk) 03:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What matters is not your "argument" (or mine), but the reports by reliable sources. As long as you cite reliable sources, you should feel free to update the article. -- ChamithN (talk) 08:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for responding!. I agree that having reliable sources is be very important. Do you think the current text meets that standard? The single citation associated with it is from a local news publication about the President appointing the Rajapakse as the prime minister. It doesn't refer to any constitutional implications at all or even Wickramsinghe's refusal. On the other hand, the main page on the constitutional crisis starts by stating the crisis began with President's appointment of Rajapakse based on a citation that . I think the problem here is one of interpretation. Did the crisis begin when the president appointed Rajapakse or when Wickramasinghe refused to accept that appointment? Either interpretation can be considered a value judgment which doesn't belong here. We could potentially represent both perspectives with supporting "opinion" sources in the interest of a Neutral point of view though I'm not sure it would add any particular value. Alternatively, may be we could maybe use a more narrow interpretation by considering the first of the series of events (appointment of Rajapakse) that comprise this crisis as the one that started it with no value judgment or assignment of responsibility. In this case the current source can remain and the text would change to something neutral like the first sentence in the constitutional crisis article quoted below. I'm partial to this since it would also achieve consistency across the two articles as well.
"A constitutional crisis began in Sri Lanka when President Maithripala Sirisena appointed former president and member of parliament Mahinda Rajapaksa as prime minister on 26 October 2018 before formally dismissing the incumbent Ranil Wickremesinghe, resulting in two concurrent prime ministers"
What do you think?
DanajaT (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think you make a good point there. I believe you should go ahead and update the article to reflect your suggestion(s). -- ChamithN (talk) 07:45, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ranil Wickremesinghe has announced his resignation as Prime Minister of Sri Lanka[edit]

Ranil Wickremesinghe had resigned on 9 July. please update it in this article. Source:https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/sri-lanka-crisis-pm-wickremesinghe-steps-down-after-leaders-demand-resignation-101657373028507.html RayAdvait (talk) 02:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wickremesinghe has decided to resign but he has not resigned yet. Understand the difference. And this article is up-to-date and his announcement about willingness to resign is mentioned in the introduction and the Fourth premiership section. 🔮Plpm2021💬 02:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking and/or trolling[edit]

Will some users here quit vandalizing or blanking without any discussion? Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 09:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, just revert the vandalism. Firestar464 (talk) 06:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted it more than 50 times. I can't sit in front of a screen forever. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:11, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rajapaksa has not resigned[edit]

@Somebody676798: Stop blanking the sourced note explaining Rajapaksa has not resigned and changing the infobox to say Wickremesinghe has fully succeeded Rajapaksa. You have already been warned not to do this without sources and are now edit-warring, with a misleading edit summary suggesting it's only a formatting change. This is disruptive. ― Tartan357 Talk 06:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He has resigned which will be officially announced tomorrow and appointed Ranil as the President. You're being disruptive yourself. [2], [3] Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Being the Queen Of England[edit]

He is appointed as the queen of England after the military coup happened in 2023. Perseus0001 (talk) 16:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Perseus0001, what exactly do you mean by this?? Kpddg (talk) 17:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kpddg: He must be a time traveller. Afraid we can't help him though, not without violating WP:CRYSTAL. So just ignore him.--Chanaka L (talk) 17:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Number of terms[edit]

Per this article on Daily News, the current prime minister term should be his sixth. They are,

  1. 93-94
  2. 2001-04
  3. 2015 Jan-2015 Aug (Sirisena won the presidential election and appoint RW as the PM)
  4. 2015 Aug-2018 Oct (wins the parliamentary election, becomes the pm)
  5. 2018 Dec-2019 (after the 2018 Sri Lankan constitutional crisis, sworn in again)
  6. 2022 (the current ministry)

Looks like each time someone take the oath, it is considered a fresh term. Anyone else have an idea on how these terms should be counted? Chanaka L (talk) 15:10, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here Indian Express says 2022 term is Wickremesinghe's 5th term while Al Jazeera and The Hindustan Times say it's the 6th term. I think we should refer to an official statement to decide the number of terms instead of referring to what media say. 🔮Plpm2021💬 16:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was able to dig up the official page, here it is. Looks like the Daily News article is spot on. List of prime ministers of Sri Lanka should be updated accordingly, I guess.--Chanaka L (talk) 16:20, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2022[edit]

Please edit the following: He is the president now (He should be elect-pres but he was the president before too.), as per: http://sinhala.adaderana.lk/news/170384/%E0%B6%A1%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%AF-%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%8A%E2%80%8D%E0%B6%BB%E0%B6%AD%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B5%E0%B6%BD%E0%B6%BA-%E0%B6%B8%E0%B7%99%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%B1. By the way he hasn't sweared yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VScode fanboy (talk • contribs) 16:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done Additionally, please sign your comment and start a new section next time. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Other Political Affiliations - Sri Lanka Podujana Peramuna[edit]

I propose that the SLPP be added to his other political affiliations as he was elected as President (and is currently supported) by the majority faction of the party. 2402:D000:811C:17B7:55D5:437D:D46C:1C75 (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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