Talk:Real World/Road Rules Challenge: The Ruins

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Bank[edit]

Should we keep track of the amount of money in each contestant's "individual bank account"? I believe Wes and Kelly Anne now have around ~~$2000~~ $2800. It was something like $180k over the first 9 challenges, to be split between the people participating. However, it doesn't appear to be evenly split per challenge, otherwise there would be more than ~~$2500~~ $2800 in Wes's account. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC). Updated figures. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 18:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK in ep 1 the players are told its for $20000. Wes is told in the finals that he has $1400 in his account, which is about 20000/14 ($1429). In ep 2 they are told its again for $20000. Wes is again told in the finals he has $2800, which is about $40000/14 ($2857). That is the current total for Kelly Anne and all 13 remaining on the Red Team. I'll start working on a box.--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 05:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you do better than this? It's kind of unwieldy...--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 05:36, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Episode	1	2
Darrell	$1400	$2800
Derrick	$1400	$2800
Evan	$1400	$2800
Evelyn	$1400	Out
Ibis	$1400	$2800
Johanna	$1400	$2800
Johnny	$1400	$2800
Katie	$1400	$2800
Kenny	$1400	$2800
Susie	$1400	$2800
Syrus	$1400	$2800
Tonya	$1400	$2800
Veronica	$1400	$2800
Wes	$1400	$2800
Adam
Brad
Brianna
Casey
Chet	Out
Cohutta
Danny
Diem	Out
Dunbar
Kelly Anne		$2800
Kimberly
Nick		Out
Sarah
Shauvon		Out

Nice job! I agree that we should figure out how to make it a bit smaller, if possible. I'm not sure what the best solution is. The only other show that I can recall that had an individual bank account like this was Pirate Master. I will look to see what was done there as well. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 18:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another question. You have Veronica and Syrus as banking $1400 each in each challenge, but they are not in the Episode summary table? Am I missing something obvious? Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 18:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. Everyone on the team banks for the challenges, because everyone participates in the challenges. "Challenge Participants" actually refers to the Ruins nominees, and is probably not the best way to refer to that, as 8 of the 12 in the group do nothing special except vote on the 4 people to send to the ruins.--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 05:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Episode	1	2
Darrell	$1400	$2800
Derrick	$1400	$2800
Evan	$1400	$2800
Evelyn	$1400	OUT
Ibis	$1400	$2800
Johanna	$1400	$2800
Johnny	$1400	$2800
Katie	$1400	$2800
Kenny	$1400	$2800
Susie	$1400	$2800
Syrus	$1400	$2800
Tonya	$1400	$2800
Veronica	$1400	$2800
Wes	$1400	$2800

Episode	1	2
Adam	$0	$0
Brad	$0	$0
Brianna	$0	$0
Casey	$0	$0
Chet	OUT	OUT
Cohutta	$0	$0
Danny	$0	$0
Diem	OUT	OUT
Dunbar	$0	$0
Kelly Anne	$0	$2800
Kimberly	$0	$0
Nick	$0	OUT
Sarah	$0	$0
Shauvon	$0	OUT

Same idea broken out by team. thoughts?--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 05:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like this better. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 21:09, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shauvon Episode 2[edit]

Shauvon did not quit. She was injured and the doctors told her she couldn't compete so she was sent home to nurse the injury.174.50.57.126 (talk) 23:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Episode 2[edit]

No mention of Eve throwing the ruin to Kelly Anne.--Cooly123 02:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

First of all, it's Ev. Second of all, it's not significant enough to include in the results.Stjimmy61892 (talk) 23:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this is important enough to be included somewhere in the article.

Who ends up winning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.75.138 (talk) 02:16, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kimberly/Susie[edit]

Besides the question of whether this is a spoilers site (it isn't), nothing in the preview for episode 9 PROVES Susie won the Ruins. Who knows what the rules are if every person on one team of a gender is eliminated. C'mon people.--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 18:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kimberly/Susie[edit]

Besides the question of whether this is a spoilers site (it isn't), nothing in the preview for episode 9 PROVES Susie won the Ruins. Who knows what the rules are if every person on one team of a gender is eliminated. C'mon people.--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 18:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elimination chart[edit]

I was just wondering if adding another chart called to this article would be acceptable. Perhaps we could take off the current "Elimination chart"? It seems a little redundant to have the challenge name, ruin name etc., on this chart, since that's under the corresponding episode summary. The new chart would be separated by gender, since that's how the contestants are eliminated. Let me give you a preview...

Males	Episodes
Males	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9
Derrick	WIN	WIN	SAFE	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN
Dunbar	SAFE	SAFE	WIN	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN
Evan	WIN	WIN	SAFE	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN
Johnny	WIN	WIN	SAFE	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN	RUIN
Kenny	WIN	WIN	SAFE	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN	WIN
Brad	SAFE	SAFE	WIN	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Darrell	WIN	WIN	SAFE	RUIN	WIN	WIN	RUIN	OUT
Cohutta	SAFE	SAFE	WIN	SAFE	RUIN	RUIN	OUT
Syrus	WIN	WIN	RUIN	WIN	WIN	OUT
Wes	RUIN	RUIN	SAFE	WIN	OUT
Danny	SAFE	SAFE	WIN	OUT
Adam	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Nick	SAFE	OUT
Chet	OUT

Females	Episodes
Females	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
Casey
KellyAnne
Kimberly
Sarah
Susie
Johanna
Veronica
Ibis
Katie
Tonya
Brianna
Evelyn
Shauvon
Diem

Teams: The contestant is on the Challengers team.; The contestant is on the Champions team.

Competition: The contestant won the final challenge.; The contestant won a challenge, and was not a nominee for the Ruins.; The contestant won a challenge, and was a nominee for the Ruins.; The contestant did not win the challenge, but was not a nominee for the Ruins.; The contestant did not win the challenge, and was a nominee for the Ruins.; The contestant won the challenge, was put into the Ruins, and won.; The contestant did not win the challenge, was put into the the Ruins, and won.; The contestant won the challenge, but lost the Ruins and was eliminated.; The contestant lost the challenge, was put into the Ruins, and was eliminated.; The contestant was disqualified from the challenge.

The Females' chart would be the same as well.

Feel free to give suggestions about changing the color scheme, simplifying the color scheme, or anything else.

Wikiguy09 (talk) 03:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm somewhat neutral on its inclusion. On the positive side, it does appear to be fairly well organized, and convey useful information. On the negative side, there are too many colors, and it's not very easy to decode the necessary information. Perhaps some reduction in the coloring would make it easier to read, especially per WP:ACCESSIBILITY. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about possibly taking off the winning team and making an extra column at the top to show what team one instead of adding in all that extra color. That would make the color sceme something like this:

Teams: The contestant is on the Challengers team.; The contestant is on the Champions team.

Competition: The contestant won the final challenge. WINNER; The contestant was safe from the Ruins. SAFE; The contestant was nominated for the Ruins, but was safe. SAFE; The contestant was put into the Ruins and won. RUIN; The contestant was put into the Ruins and lost. OUT; The contestant was disqualified from the challenge. OUT

(The bold words would be what would be in the columns.) An example of the kind of extra row I was thinking about is on America's Most Smartest Model. Where it says "Edge Challenge Winner" or something like that, that's where we could put "Challenge Winner", and then put Champions or Challengers. Example:

Males	Episodes
Males	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9
Derrick	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE
Evan	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE
Johnny	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE
Kenny	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE
Dunbar	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Brad	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Darrell	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	OUT
Cohutta	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	RUIN	OUT
Syrus	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Wes	RUIN	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Danny	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Adam	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Nick	SAFE	OUT
Chet	OUT

Females	Episodes
Females	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
KellyAnne	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE
Sarah	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE
Susie	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	RUIN
Casey	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Kimberly	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Johanna	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Veronica	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Ibis	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Katie	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Tonya	RUIN	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Brianna	SAFE	SAFE	OUT
Evelyn	SAFE	OUT
Shauvon	SAFE	OUT
Diem	OUT

Teams: The contestant is on the Challengers team.; The contestant is on the Champions team.

Competition: The contestant won the final challenge.; The contestant was safe from the Ruins.; The contestant was nominated for the Ruins, but was safe.; The contestant was put into the Ruins and won.; The contestant was put into the Ruins and was eliminated.; The contestant was disqualified from the challenge.; The contestant withdrew from the competition.

Any thoughts? Wikiguy09 (talk) 03:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think its ok. FYI I'm color blind and its fine.--CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 04:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The two charts make the article too wide though. I might actually like the current one better.Wikiguy09 (talk) 02:59, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

updated anyone like it better?Wikiguy09 (talk) 06:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly think this is pointless. This would really only fit best in an individual challenge such as the Duel or the Island. On top of that, we technically already have an elimination chart in the money count.Stjimmy61892 (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ep 9 in Dec 2??[edit]

Wtf??? Why is it going to air in Dec 2 instead of today - Nov 25 (Wednesday)?--99.40.191.188 (talk) 02:35, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

preemption.68.222.30.211 (talk) 19:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New series[edit]

Based on the umcoming Mtv Spring Break commerical, the next season of the challenge will be taping something during the upcoming spring break festivities. It is unkown if this is a whole season or just a few games.--Cooly123 00:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

This link here says that the new season starts April 17 but it doesn't list a name or anything. That is all the info I could find.Allwham (talk) 16:06, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A certain set of reliable message boards indicates that those are two separate thoughts. Spring Break is a cheap quick promo thing to do between RW DC and the next RR-RW Challenge, the taping of which has already wrapped, and is alleged to be Fresh Meat II, will air April-June. --CastAStone /^{/₵₳$↑₳}^{₴₮ʘ№€} 17:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WHOEVER THIS EXPLOADING TOENAILS PERSON IS, STOP IT RIGHT NOW. STOP CHANGING ON ALL THE CHALLENGE PAGES THE ELIMINATIONS TO SAFE, THEY GOT SENT TO THE ELIMINATION SO DON'T CHANGE IT TO SAFE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clippers18 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]