Talk:Reginald Hyde/GA1

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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 21:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this soon. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prelim[edit]

  • No duplicated links
  • No edit wars
  • Images correctly licensed. Nice group of them, too.
  • Earwig reports copyvio unlikely

Lede and infobox[edit]

  • Suggest expanding out the Islington link to include "New Zealand" because I automatically assumed this meant Islington
  • My thinking here was that because the previous sentence established that he was a New Zealander, the clarification isn't necessary. Happy to change if you insist though. Zawed (talk) 06:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would argue that "Born in Islington, Hyde was working in the United Kingdom" suggests to the reader that it's the UK Islington, but it's a very minor point. It really depends on where you come from! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a compromise, I've replaced Islington with Christchurch. Zawed (talk) 04:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "land aircraft on" while technically correct it's a little janky; would "operate on aircraft carriers" work with the source?
  • Possible to say what he was instructing in?
  • I think linking the film in the lede would be worthwhile
  • Link No. 3 TEU as done in infobox
  • Done.
  • "In September 1945" repeated year
  • You list No. 3 TEU as a command in the infobox but main text doesn't stipulate he was in command
  • Have made this clear in article body now. Zawed (talk) 07:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why not directly link to Operation Circus? Considering the Channel itself isn't mentioned anywhere in text it makes the link slightly more confusing
  • Yep, fair enough. I think it was a hangover from a practice when I used to refer to Channel Front rather than Circus offensive. Zawed (talk) 06:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Early life[edit]

  • "the Cambridge Aero Club" I think removing "the" would be more accurate to the name
  • "at the weekends"
  • Final sentence isn't too clear on whether Hyde is with the RAF or RAFVR at this point; perhaps a few words clarifying he's still RAFVR?
  • Looking at the sources, it is potentially overreaching to specify training was with the RAF, so have opted to delete this point. Zawed (talk) 08:04, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Second World War[edit]

  • Deliberately failed training! Do we know why Hyde decided to do this?
  • The source doesn't say but I suspect it was because he saw greater prospect of action flying with the RAF than with the FAA. The type of aircraft could have been a factor too, as Gladiators and Swordfish were both biplanes, a long way from Hurricanes/Spitfires. Zawed (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "were posted to No. 66 Squadron...back with the RAF"?
  • Chance No. 418 Flight could be red linked?
  • Linked but it is actually a redirect to No. 261 Squadron (as its a redirect, it doesn't show up as a dupe link). Zawed (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the HMS Argus"
  • "strip" suggest fuller airstrip
  • Luftwaffe should be italicised if Regia Aeronautica is
  • My understanding from other reviews is that Luftwaffe is considered a common enough term in English that italics shouldn't to be used. However, Regia Aeronautica probably isn't. I stress that the latter point is my personal view, this issue hasn't come up in a review before.
  • "Hyde, now a flight sergeant" surely Hyde would have become a flight sergeant well before this? I was under the impression that any sergeant pilot would be a flight sergeant. Am I wrong?
  • He started out as a sergeant pilot, which is a rank in itself, and from there one gets promoted to flight sergeant and warrant officer. Zawed (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hyde was appointed as an instructor" As queried in lede, do we know what he was instructing on?
  • "In December 1942" repeated year
  • "in February 1942" repeated year, and also the wrong year?
  • "offensive operations" link is a little bit of an easter egg imo
  • Yes, have added mention of this using a source at the Wiki article. Zawed (talk) 09:21, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At this time, he was promoted to acting wing commander" what happened to squadron leader?!
  • I can't find any mention of a promotion to squadron leader in the sources. Zawed (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

  • References look good, AGF with print sources.

@Zawed: Hi, that's all I have for now. Will await your responses. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:29, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe:, thanks for the review, much appreciated. I have responded to your queries with edits to the article and responses above. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 09:26, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Zawed: Happy with your changes. Passing this article as satisfying the GA criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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