Talk:Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy

Seventh-day Adventist view

Seventh-day Adventist's strongly believe in following all 10 Commandments, even the fourth commandment. While other Christian faiths believe that the 10 Commandments were done away with at the cross, Adventist state that the "blotting out of the handwriting of the ordinances" (which are mentioned in Colossians 2) referred only to doing away with the ceremonial laws of Moses not the 10 commandments. It is an established fact that there were no "ordinances" in the 10 Commandments, however there were "ordinances" in the ceremonial laws of Moses. Adventist therefore believe that God never revoked the 10 commandments, and it is a sin against God not to obey them. The only laws that were done away with were the laws of Moses which were fulfilled by the death of Christ on the cross. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micuser (talk • contribs) 18:08, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

--- Since their beliefs were not mentioned, they need to be incorporated, but here is further clarification:

The book that Moses wrote is a testimony against us which was not put into the ark, but put in the side of the ark (Deuteronomy 31:26). Those ordinances against us were the ones blotted out by being nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14). Ceremonial sacrifices and punishment were all put to an end by having faith in the blood of Jesus paying that price and His saving grace. He reiterated every one of the 10 Commandments but stressed retaliation with kindness instead, and seemingly raised the standard by saying that even breaking one with our thoughts is the same thing.

Jesus defended healing on the Sabbath by saying that pulling a donkey out of a pit was a show of mercy to the animal (Matthew 12:11, Luke 14:5); how much greater is a man than a beast. Also, He defended letting His disciples eat because they were poor and hungry, another show of mercy being greater than the law (Matthew 12:1, Luke 6:1, Mark 2:23). By these actions, Jesus reaffirmed that the Sabbath was something special to be kept; yet, His purpose was to clarify what is acceptable to do and be blameless. If there is no condition for mercy to be given, then by working on that day the person practices lawlessness. In no way did Jesus imply that His resurrection was to be honored instead of the day for remembrance of creation, but that the day of rest remains (Hebrews 4:9-11). In fact, the Bible even states that we will keep the Sabbath in Heaven (Isaiah 66:22-23). We ask for the Lord's will to be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, which can be done through us even now, and His commands are not grievous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vapur9 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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Orthodox Christian views

This addresses Catholic and Protestant views, but leaves out several other important Christian groups, including the third major group - Orthodox Christians (both Eastwen and Oriental). Lksedor (talk) 12:07, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Truly miraculous

"An oration given by Jesus to Saint Elizabeth, Queen of Hungary, along with Saint Matilda and Saint Bridget,..." -considering that these women lived in three different centuries and never met. The claim that the so-called "A True Letter of Our Saviour Jesus Christ", … is venerated by Roman Catholics," is dubious, at best, and should perhaps better read by gullible Roman Catholics. Manannan67 (talk) 01:47, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Manannan67, if there is a lack of support by the sources, then I have no quibble with removing the whole thing; I have personally never heard of this, and I've heard of a lot of crazy stuff in the Church. It is probably WP:UNDUE. All I objected to was the weaseling of the sentence that made it vague and accusatory. Elizium23 (talk) 08:55, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Where did "Observe the Sabbath day..." go?

I remember coming to this article several years ago and seeing both versions of this commandment listed, but all of that's gone now. I've tried to follow links into discussions of the passage both in Exodus and in Deuteronomy, and if the difference is even mentioned, it's very hard to find. And, although most Jewish people don't know it, both forms of the commandment are kept by the observant. The formal Sabbath service follows the commandment to observe the Sabbath day, and the Oneg Shabbat that follows, with a light lunch and socializing is intended to Remember the Sabbath day. JDZeff (talk) 17:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Translation

Translating עֶבֶד (eved) and אָמָה (Amah) as 'servant' is simply wrong: the word is 'slave'. Porjes (talk) 20:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)