Talk:Restless Heart (Whitesnake album)

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Being in the US many albums made in Japan come with previously unreleased tracks (bonus tracks) and are highly collected here. I have seen people call them Japanese versions yet while they may or may not be currently made in Japan these albums are usually sold throughout most of Asia. In fact many Japanese record companies now have working deals with companies in Korea, Taiwan, China, etc... Also Korean and Chinese compact discs are showing up more and more in the US and worldwide with the same tracks and covers as the Japanese discs. It would be more accurate to call these releases Asian releases or Asian versions. Separate release histories really only are needed if there are major differences between the discs.

Related to the above I have seen different covers from other countries captioned as "Alternate". This is incorrect and may lead to changes later on. If someone in Tokyo or Beijing looks at an infobox with the Asian cover listed as an alternate he may say that is wrong and change it so that the US/Euro cover is the alternate. To him it is, remember Wiki is worldwide. If you are putting up a second cover and you know why it is different from the original or more common version (whether it's region of origin, re-issue, promo, banned, etc..) the correct explanation should be stated on the caption. Solonyc (talk} 14:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean "US" album? This artist from England and this album was released first and only in the world in Japan in March 1997, several months before anywhere else in the world. So this album is the original world's first pressing. A Japanese pressing release album is not sold throughout asia, they are only stocked in stores in Japan but can be purchased abroad in shops stocking imports on their shelves or by mail order either online or from other sources. Japanese record companies do not deal with China. There are no official Chinese releases.

Technically from collectors and Japanese consumers all other country releases that came out later are second pressings with missing tracks because they lack the "bonus" tracks that were on the Japanese 1st pressing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.134.244.230 (talk) 23:40, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the genre "pop metal" to this album[edit]

Hi everyone,

wanted to know if it was ok to add the genre "pop metal" to this album? Source from AllMusic: [1]https://www.allmusic.com/album/restless-heart-mw0000458168

"To Coverdale's credit, he did not attempt to give Whitesnake a modern-day makeover (which so many pop- metal bands of the late '80s did post-Nirvana, and failed miserably), as he follows in the same melodic rock mold of Whitesnake's previous two releases, 1987's Whitesnake and 1989's Slip of the Tongue."

Thanks! AgentKozak (talk) 17:57, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since there seems to be some dispute with regards to the album being labeled "pop metal", here are my two cents:

While the review does use the term "pop metal", it doesn't explicitly refer to the album Restless Heart, but rather other "pop metal bands of the late '80s". In this case, there's an argument to be made that this statement refers more to Whitesnake as a whole rather than this album specifically.

In the same review, it is stated that Coverdale "follows in the same melodic rock mold of Whitesnake's previous two releases". This, in my opinion, is a far more direct description of this specific album.--SilverBullitt (talk) 12:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"While the review does use the term 'pop metal', it doesn't explicitly refer to the album Restless Heart, but rather other 'pop metal bands of the late '80s'" yes and thats exactly why it should be removed --FMSky (talk) 12:58, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How would you interpret the latter statement? I still think there is grounds to keep the pop metal label. Even just based on the later statement.

Thanks! AgentKozak (talk) 14:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

from the quote:

"To Coverdale's credit, he did not attempt to give Whitesnake a modern-day makeover (which so many pop- metal bands of the late '80s did post-Nirvana, and failed miserably), as he follows in the same melodic rock mold of Whitesnake's previous two releases, 1987's Whitesnake and 1989's Slip of the Tongue."

it literally says it is NOT pop metal --FMSky (talk) 18:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's your interpretation of what it says. AgentKozak (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We may have to consult another editor if you insist on reverting this again. AgentKozak (talk) 18:47, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is your interpretation? Yes please do so --FMSky (talk) 18:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"he did not attempt to give Whitesnake a modern-day makeover (which so many pop- metal bands of the late '80s)" - So it is saying here that the sound of the album did not change from it's 80's sound. As many 80's bands did (e.g. Bon Jovi to AC Rock , Motley Crue to grunge. Many sources to this on Wiki). Which is confirmed by the next line in the source.

"as he follows in the same melodic rock mold of Whitesnake's previous two releases, 1987's Whitesnake and 1989's Slip of the Tongue". So again, we have a line that states that sonically, the sound from the previous two albums, which are almost universally referred to as pop metal (again many sources to that end on Wikipedia) has continued on the new album.

I won't fight another revert, but please consider what the source is saying when you break it down. I have seen other genres added to albums based on a lot less than this. I would be nice to have a third party weigh on this more conclusively.

Thanks!!! AgentKozak (talk) 18:59, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For my money, I wouldn't label the album pop metal, because (like I stated before) the review doesn't directly refer to the album as pop metal, but rather other bands of Whitesnake's ilk from the '80s. The statement, however, is open to interpritation. You could argue that labelling Whitesnake pop metal would automatically mean that this album too is pop metal. However, that is a slippery slope, because not every album in a band's discography necessarily fits neatly into one category. Personally I would even argue that the statement in the review is categorically false, since the album sounds vastly different from the previous two. But that's just my own personal opinion. SilverBullitt (talk) 19:09, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Even though I disagree personally, since the majority is against the change I'll revert it.

Thank you for your comments! AgentKozak (talk) 19:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]