Talk:Richie McCaw

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Needs work

This article is unworthy of one of the greatest players of the modern era. And I'm a Wallabies supporter. Strayan (talk) 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It says McCaw has played 98 tests as of 27 August 2011 and has 98 points. But Allblacks.com says as of that date he's played 97 tests and has 95 points. http://www.allblacks.com/index.cfm?layout=playerProfile&playerID=1121 Thedoctor98 (talk) 07:34, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Will fix AIRcorn (talk) 09:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Richie McCaw - glider pilot

Richie is well known in aviation circles as a glider pilot. He has appeared in a TV film by the Sky Documentary Channel showing him flying and at the Omarama club. In the film Richie (if I recall correctly) described flying the glider as something of a passion, and a way to remove himself from the stress of life as a rugby player. I think this part of his life should also be recognised. Viragored (talk) 06:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Photo

Can we get a new photo for the info box? He looks slightly retarded in the current one, he's a good looking guy and it doesn't really do him justice. Then again a photo of anyone with that expression would not do them justice.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.184.56.49 (talk) 10:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Would love some more photos, but unfortunately we can only use free ones. This is what is on commons at the moment. If you have a good one that is your own and are willing to upload it we can use it in the article. AIRcorn (talk) 11:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

same for Dan Carter, he is the most famous rugby player and yet no one has yet been able to provide a good picture of him, specifically, his face....--Stemoc (talk) 12:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

What is with this comment

"Media footage has been released pinpointing unpenalised transgressions during a match against Australia" Is this really relevant? Every match there are unpenalized offenses which are caught on tape. Why light upon Riche McCaw? Whoever wrote this comment seems to be very bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.58.14 (talk) 03:46, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I wrote that comment, as well as the majority of the rest of the article. You are right however, I am biased, just not in the way you are insinuating. Rightly or wrongly, Richie McCaw has been accused of crossing the boundaries at the breakdown. While I think that is part of the opensiders brief it has been mentioned in newspapers and should be mentioned somewhere here. It is hopefully balanced by the next sentence, although if you (or anyone else) can come up with a better way to illustrate the point feel free. AIRcorn (talk) 04:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Richie McCaw/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: KnowIG (talk) 09:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Here we go then...

First things first. Why is there no picture of McCaw in the infobox.

• There was a picture in there but it got deleted due to copyright concerns. I inserted the one that was further down.

Secondy why is the picture of the school he attended in the 2003 build up when it is ment to be in the early years section. If you wanted more pictures then fine go and find some.

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Get rid of the 03 world cup and merge with the build up and rename 03 world cup cause it's too short really to be on its own

Concussions problmatic title there

Redemption also awkward not like he was banned from the game was he, just criticised for poor leadership.

Milestones is miss leading as one expects it to list all of his records not go on about another season.

• Changed the paragraph headings

Sort that lot out then I'll tell you about the prose then I think this will be good to go. KnowIG (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Just looked at the GA stuff good article here sort the picies out and remove the following as it is not needed and straies from the topic

In 2004 McCaw suffered a series of concussions that forced him to miss a number of games and put his playing future in doubt. He recovered and Scrape from lead as it is rather trivial and not really an achievement nor a did he miss a big period as he played and missed a couple of games etc. So just go In 06 captain

• Reworded that sentence. Still mention the concussions otherwise the lead will jump from 2001 to 2006 missing out a large portion of the body

McCaws rugby career Appostraphie needed on McCaw's. And should be during McCaw's career Canatbury. And since he has made his debut NZ have won...

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New Zealand under 19 squad (coached by former All Black Mark Shaw), which won the world championship in Wales RM (former all black...)

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Write seventeen instead of 17

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eventually win. rm eventually

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scraping home 24–20 against Argentina with a last minute try to number eight and Canterbury teammate Scott Robertson.[15. Winnnign 24-20 against Argentina. Link Argentia Rugby Union team. Scrap rest of sentence

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The Crusaders won all 13 matches in the 2002 season,[18] including a record 96–19 win over the Waratahs.[19] Rm this is about McCaw not the team

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The Canterbury provincial rugby team finished second in the round robin of the NPC in 2002, losing the semi-final to eventual winners Auckland.[20] With many of their All Blacks rested for the World Cup (including McCaw), they failed to make the top four in 2003.[21]. Did McCaw play in the first bit? And remove the second season just write McCaw did not play in -3 as he was rested for the WC.

• He played the 2002 season. Reworded the 2003 season.

In 2002 McCaw played for the All Blacks against the touring Irish (15. Ireland not Irish

which was marred by two streakers who invaded the pitch while first five-eighth Andrew Mehrtens was lining up a long range penalty. Rm nothing to do with McCaw

A similar incident occurred when the All Blacks were playing South Africa in Durban. This time, instead of streaking, the pitch invader attacked Irish referee David McHugh as a scrum was being set, dislocating his shoulder in the process.[24] McCaw and A.J. Venter wrestled the assailant off the referee and, according to McHugh, if they had not got involved his shoulder would have been broken.

Following on this needs changing. During New Zealand's match agianstt SA in Durban, McCaw helpped escourt a pitch invador off the pitch. The invador attacked...Then the rest of it as it now makes sense

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The openside flankers taken on the tour were Marty Holah and Daniel Braid, in one of the most inexperienced All Black squads ever assembled.[25] The All Blacks returned after a loss to England, a draw against France and a win in Wales. Rm nothing to do with McCaw

where they made the finals. of what?

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a stuttering 31–23 win over France. Rm stuttering

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The Tri Nations started with resounding wins away against Australia and South Africa, with the All Blacks scoring 50 points in both matches.[27] This was followed by narrow victories at home, which kept the Tri Nations title in New Zealand. In the last game of the Tri Nations, New Zealand beat Australia 21–17 to regain the Bledisloe Cup for the first time since 1997.[28] New Zealand were ranked second behind England leading into the World Cup.[29] Rm all just say McCaw helpped the team win the Tri Nations and the Bledisloe cup for the first time since 97

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along with Braid and Holah.[30] New Zealand had massive wins in the group stages, beating Italy (70–7), Canada (68–6) and Tonga (97–7). Wales proved to be a bigger challenge. New Zealand trailed 33–37 with 20 minutes to go, but recovered with two late tries to win 53–37.[31].New Zealand defeated South Africa in the quarter-finals 29–9,[32] in the second meeting between the two sides in a World Cup.[33] They were expected to be too strong for the Australians, who had stumbled to a 33–16 win over Scotland in their quarter-final.[34] The Australians however dominated the clash and on the back of a Stirling Mortlock intercept try, knocked New Zealand out of the tournament.[35] McCaw, who played in every All Black game in the tournament, was rewarded with the Kelvin Tremain Trophy for the New Zealand Rugby Union player of the year.[36] Cut all and its POV. Just write New Zealand qualified for the knockout stages. Where they made the semifinals. McCaw, who played in every game etc.

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Made a start. Will address the below points as soon as possible AIRcorn (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

In the aftermath of the World Cup, John Mitchell (with a record of 23 victories, four defeats and one draw) was dropped as All Black coach.[37] His successor was former Blues, Wales and British and Irish Lions coach Graham Henry. Henry's first match was against the world champion English in June 2004. Nothing to do with McCaw. Write following the wc Mitchell was sacked as NZ manager and was replaced by Henry who made McCaw vice captain.

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, after finishing runners up to the Brumbies with the Crusaders in the Super 14 Move before the above highlighted section

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This was the first time he had missed a game in his whole Doesn't make sense when he missed the England Game

• It was meant to indicate the England game. Removed it as I can't make it fit and it is not that important.

New Zealand ended up last in the Tri Nations after losing both away games to Australia and South Africa. Nothing to do with McCaw

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NPC. NPC season and link to the season

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All Blacks' successful end-of-season tour to Italy, Wales and France. Rm successful.

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against the Welsh. Against Wales

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suffered concussion. Suffered a concussion

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McCaw was eased back into international rugby with a 91–0 thumping of Fiji before the British and Irish Lions arrived.[46] He then played the first two test against the Lions, including a record 48–18 victory in Wellington.[47] The All Blacks defeated the touring Lions 3–0 in the series. McCaw followed this with a successful Tri Nations (with just one narrow defeat to South Africa in Cape Town) and completed a Grand Slam (when victory is achieved against all the UK nations) at the end of year tour.[48] He missed the game against England after suffering his third serious head knock against Ireland.[49] Despite his injury concerns, McCaw was shortlisted for the 2005 IRB International Player of the Year, which was won by All Black first five Dan Carter.[50]

Rm McCaw was eased back into international rugby with a 91–0 thumping. Write McCaw returned to International rugby in the 91-0 win over Fiji

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McCaw followed this with a successful Tri Nations (with just one narrow defeat to South Africa in Cape Town. Rm McCaw won the Tri nations with NZ losing one game. He was then part of the Grand Slam winning () tour.

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by All Black first five Dan Carter. Write won by All Black team mate Dan Carter

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With the arrival of Graham Henry, Tana Umaga was promoted to captain, becoming the first player of Samoan descent[51] to lead the All Blacks at test level,[52] and McCaw was named as his deputy. Stuff not about McCaw plus it's a repeat from earlier

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and had led New Zealand against Wales and Ireland when Umaga was rested. Rm repeat

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It was therefore not surprising when he was announced as the new All Black captain in May 2006 after Tana Umaga's retirement from international rugby. Following Tana Umaga's retirement from interational rugby in 2006, McCaw was made captain of NZ

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regular captain. Captain

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the Irish in. against Ireland in

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New Zealand edged in front of Ireland in the first test with 9 minutes remaining for a 34–23 victory[56] and held out for a 27–17 win in the second. McCaw won his first two matches as captain

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New Zealand then dominated a below-strength[63] touring French team in two tests in New Zealand and then played a one-off test against Canada. McCaw then Capatined NZ winning two tests against France and one against Canada

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The All Blacks were in a pool that included Italy, Portugal, Scotland and Romania. The All Blacks breezed through the pool play with scores of 76–14, 108–13, 40–0 and 85–8 respectively. Due to Graham Henry's rotation policy, McCaw started in just two of the pool matches (Italy and Scotland) and came on as a reserve against Romania. During the 2007 WC group stage McCaw made just three apperences (2 starts 1 bench) due to Henry's rotation policy. The team made the quarterfinals where they lost to France. So then remove New Zealand were leading 13–3 at half-time and looked in control, before the French fought back with two second-half tries. The final score was 18–20 to the French, resulting in New Zealand's earliest exit from a World Cup.

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Irish, and two comfortable victories against the English. McCaw tore a ligament in his ankle against the English and missed the start of the Tri Nations. Will you stop writing Irish English and use proper names Ireland England

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Rodney So'oialo was made stand-in captain and started the Tri Nations with a win and a loss at home against South Africa. The defeat was the first loss on home soil in 30 matches and South Africa's first test win in New Zealand for a decade.[74] The next match was against Australia in Sydney and the Australians came away with a 34–19 victory.[75] nothing to do with McCaw

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McCaw was fit for the return match in Auckland and the All Blacks turned the tables in a 39–10 McCaw was fit for the win against Australia in Aukland

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The tour to the United Kingdom was won in style with victories over Scotland (32–6), Ireland (22–3), Wales (29–9) and England (32–6).[76] The only stumbling block was a 18–16 narrow escape in a midweek game against Irish side Munster, which McCaw sat out.[81] During 2008 McCaw won every test he captained and a total of 26 out of 28 games he played in at all levels. The All Blacks won 13 of a record 15 tests, retained the Bledisloe Cup and Tri Nations Trophy, completed the Grand Slam and reclaimed the world No. 1 ranking from South Africa.[76] The Grand Slam tour was won as McCaw's team beat...Remove The only stumbling block was a 18–16 narrow escape in a midweek game against Irish side Munster, which McCaw sat out.[81

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had a slow start to the 2009 season, losing four of their first five games. They eventually recovered to finish fourth on the table. Rm lost to...

• Do you mean remove the "losing four of their first five games" part?

French and Italians What is wrong with You for goodness sake. Franch Itay, link Italy

• Wikilinked first occurrence of Italy

The French upset the All Blacks in the first test, their first win in New Zealand in 15 years,[84] and narrowly lost the second (but won the Dave Gallaher Trophy for the first time on points differential).[85] New Zealand then stuttered to a 27–6 win against the Italians. NOTHING TO DO WITH MCCAW AND YES I'M getting Cross now!

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Nationstournament. Space need

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the South African side beat the All Blacks in all three matches (twice at home and once in New Zealand) to win the title and regain the number 1 ra. As South Africa

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Welsh, Italians (McCaw was a non-playing reserve), English and French. WHAT THE HELL. Add McCaw played in all matches apart from the match against Itay

They had a narrow victory against Wales (19–12), an unconvincing win over Italy (20–6) and a testing victory against the English (19–9). Their best came last against France as the All Blacks dominated the second half to run out a 39–12 scoreline. NOTHING TO DO WITH MCCAW

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were unlucky to miss out Says who

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] A poor Northern Hemisphere tour by the South Africans (with losses to France and Ireland) saw the All Blacks move back into the number 1 ranking. FOR PEEK SAKE

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defeats to the Welsh. Wales

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season McCaw played his 100th Super Rugby game.[88] Ireland and Wales toured New Zealand in 2010, playing one and two games respectively. Irish number 8 Jamie Heaslip received a red card early in the first test for kneeing McCaw in the head, reducing the Irish to 14 men. This helped the All Blacks notch up a 66–28 winning margin, the most points ever scored against the Irish by any team.[89] They then delivered comprehensive defeats to the Welsh in two tests. The All Blacks went through the Tri Nations undefeated, notching up big wins in the first three games, 32–12 and 31–17 against South Africa in New Zealand[90] and 49–28 against Australia in Melbourne.[91] The second half of the tournament was much closer, starting with a scrappy 20–10 victory over Australia in Christchurch.[92] The All Blacks then headed to Johannesburg for a thrilling return match with the South Africans. McCaw scored a late try to draw the scores level before replacement fullback Israel Dagg scored a long-range try in the final minute to hand a 29–22 victory to New Zealand.[93] The final game of the tournament against Australia followed a similar pattern as New Zealand again came from behind to win 22–23 in Sydney, with McCaw and Kieran Read scoring tries in the final quarter. This match marked McCaw's 52nd time captaining the All Blacks and he surpassed Sean Fitzpatrick as New Zealand's most-capped test captain.[94]

The fourth Bledisloe Cup match was again scheduled for Hong Kong and Australia finally ended a ten match losing streak to the All Blacks.[95] In a reverse of the Sydney test, Australia had the stronger fourth quarter, coming back from 12–24 down. Australian wing James O'Connor scored in the corner to tie the scores in the final minute of the game and then landed the conversion from out wide to win the match 26–24. It was to be the only loss the All Blacks would suffer that season as they went on to win another Grand Slam tour, defeating England 26–16, Scotland 49–3, Ireland 38–18 and Wales 37–25.[96] In the match against Ireland McCaw, along with team mate Mils Muliaina played in their 93rd test match passing Sean Fitzpatrick to become the most capped All Blacks.[97] At the end of year awards McCaw was again honoured by being named the IRB International Player of the Year for the second successive season, and a record three times since its inception in 2001.[98][99] Trim it's way too detailed compared to other paragraphs

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I think I have addressed all your points. Let me know if anything else needs to be worked out. AIRcorn (talk) 03:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I've made a couple of minor changes but it is good enough for me to now pass. KnowIG (talk) 10:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Knighthood?

Can any Kiwi editors throw light on persistent rumours of a knighthood? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.198.245 (talk) 20:42, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Before the World cup the Prime Minister joked that he would be knighted if the All Blacks win. Now it appears that he has been nominated for a royal honour (not necessarily a knighthood).[1] AIRcorn (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

McCaw turned it down after John Key asked again. Nbagigafreak (talk) 21:57, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

References

South Canterbury or North Otago

Where did he grow up? I have seen this change back and forth a few times. Does anyone have a difinative source for one over the other. AIRcorn (talk) 12:05, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Achievements

Under McCaw's NPC achievements- he is noted to have achieved NPC success when I am pretty certain he was not even a squad member (ie in 2011). In addition, the references supporting his success are not always correct (often they refer to previous years). While his involvement in NPC was regular in his early and mid career (even if just for a few games to gain match fitness for All Black tours), he has has recently not even been a Canterbury squad member (where i do not think he has been involved in NPC past 2006). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.51.6 (talk) 02:05, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Early years

This section states that "his great-great grandfather" emigrated from the Scottish borders. Given that he (presumably) has eight great-great grandfathers, would it not be more accurate to say "one of his great-great grandfathers" emigrated?

I completely understand what you are saying... I suggest contacting the Canterbury Rugby Union who would more than likely keep a comprehensive list of matches played by players.

If McCaw took the field (even for less than 1 min) in any match in a particular season, then he would be deemed to have contributed to that season's campaign. Wouldn't be too difficult to find out the exact matches he was capped in - translate those matches played in that year to the finishing position of the team, and then you will find out if he contributed to a win or not. Sportswoman100 (talk) 12:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Retirement

We regularly have editors add content saying the McCaw will retire this year. But he hasn't actually announced it yet, so I revert these edits whenever I see them. I saw this today [2] confirming that he has not announced his retirement, so unless this changes, can editors please be mindful of this? We shouldn't be adding WP:CRYSTAL material, and definitely not to a WP:BLP. -- Shudde ^talk 23:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Nominated for in the News

I've nominated Richie McCaw's ONZ to be on Wikipedia's front page for In The News: Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. Please add your opinion on whether or not it should be featured. —Мандичка^YO 😜 16:43, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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Place of birth?

The sidebar lists his place of birth as Kurow, New Zealand, while the Early Years section says he was born in Oamaru, New Zealand.

Which is it?

It seems likely he was born in Oamaru as it has a hospital and is handy to Kurow, but are there any definitive sources for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.96.203.24 (talk) 08:44, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. AIRcorn (talk) 12:13, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

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Honors

What is the reason for the use of US-style spelling ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:9313:B900:A5AF:2CBD:962B:6911 (talk) 18:33, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

ambiguity much?

This sentence appears in the article, which for obvious reasons is semi-protected: "McCaw started flying gliders with his grandfather J H 'Jim' McCaw,[4] a Tempest pilot during World War II credited with shooting down 20 V1 missiles, when he was nine years old.[1]" Now, I'm sure the grand-dad was not nine when he shot down all those V-1's, so the sentence should read: "McCaw started flying gliders at nine years old with his grandfather J H 'Jim' McCaw,[4] a Tempest pilot during World War II credited with shooting down 20 V1 missiles.[1]". Much better. Maybe someone more exalted than I could change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koryushka (talk • contribs) 07:30, 4 November 2019 (UTC)