Talk:Rick and Morty/Archive 2

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International Broadcast

Potentially worth adding that in February 2021 TVNZ (national broadcaster of New Zealand) begun airing adult swim shows, which Rick and Morty was a part of. It isn't currently being broadcast in the adult swim lineup in New Zealand but was part of it.

Sources:

https://sales.tvnz.co.nz/news-and-events/news/adult-swim-joins-tvnz-ondemand/

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300218948/rick-and-morty-comes-to-tvnz-for-first-time

https://thespinoff.co.nz/tv/01-02-2021/whats-new-to-netflix-nz-neon-and-other-streaming-services-in-february?amp= PSLover14 (talk) 08:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

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Logo in the infobox

I think we should replace the title card with File:Rick and Morty.svg, an isolated scalable vector of the logo. In terms of information, the title card is essentially the same as the SVG logo. In terms of quality, the SVG logo is high-resolution and scalable as opposed to the title card. Several other featured or GA-level TV show articles feature isolated logos over title cards, such as The Simpsons, House (TV series), Family Guy, Cold Feet, and The Emperor's New School. Throast {{ping}} me! (talk | contribs) 19:57, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

MOS:TV also says that guidelines, such as itself, are best treated with common sense. Wikilawyering does not convince me that an isolated vector image of a logo is somehow objectively inferior to the raster screenshot of a title card. Throast {{ping}} me! (talk | contribs) 22:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Comment on content, not the contributor. If you're going to accuse me of Wikilawyering you need to do it at the proper venue which is obviously not here. ––FormalDude (talk) 22:43, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

137?

Under "Premise", what does 137 have to do with the fine-structure constant? סשס Grimmchild. He/him, probably 13:06, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Apparently the show's use of C-137 is believed to be a reference to the fine structure constant (1/137), but that's not mentioned or sourced, so I removed it. ––FormalDude (talk) 05:58, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cerebellum (talk · contribs) 12:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)


Hey, I'll be reviewing :) Could take up to a week. --Cerebellum (talk) 12:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Great job on this! I appreciate you getting a peer review before coming to GA. Here are my comments:
  • Everything in the lead should appear in the article body as well, I did not see the bit about it being a $100-million franchise in the body.
  • Since season 6 is over now, I think you could remove the sentence about season 5 from the lead and replace it with something like "The sixth season premiered on September 4, 2022, and consisted of ten episodes."
  • I don't think ref #7 says anything about a Machiavellian ego, might need a better ref.
  • "cashing in on our ‘Rick and Morty’ street cred." - This is a direct quote so it needs a reference.
  • broken the story that day - What does this mean? I've only heard of breaking a story in the context of journalism.
    • That's film-speak for coming up with each individual scene for that story and arranging them. I reworded for clarity. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Thereunder I have never heard this word before! I'm not saying you are wrong, just double-check that it fits here.
    • Double checked, seems fine. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
  • The series addresses the insignificance of human existence as compared to the size of the universe, with no recognizable divine presence, as described by Lovecraft's philosophy of cosmicism. I think this should have a source, something mentioning Lovecraft specifically.
  • Ref #146 - what makes comicbookdb a reliable source?
  • Simpsons couch gag - The summary seems overly detailed, I would stick to just the information from ref #144. You can also remove the YouTube reference since it is embedded in ref #144.
  • Is it normal to reference walmart.com and blu-ray.com in TV articles? They don't seem like reliable sources to me. To be honest, the DVD release dates are not that interesting to me, I think you could remove this info but it is up to you.
  • The same goes for the digital extras which are referenced to the iTunes store. At a minimum I don't think the iTunes stores are reliable sources, and personally I recommend removing this whole paragraph.
  • Notably, they are the only characters featured from any property held by producer Warner Bros. (under its Global Kids, Young Adults and Classics division since 2019) through subsidiary Turner Broadcasting, one that would hold a variety of animated characters through Adult Swim, Cartoon Network, or any affiliation or collaboration with them. I could not find this info in ref #143.

That is all I have for you! No issues with images, neutrality, stability, or coverage, just need to clean up the references and prose. I'll place on hold for now so you can make adjustments. --Cerebellum (talk) 14:13, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Cerebellum! I believe I've addressed everything. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Awesome! Happy to pass as GA. --Cerebellum (talk) 10:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2023

FAlexCharles (talk) 05:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Scott Mader was executive producer in Season 5

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 07:07, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
In first episode of Season 5, he was an executive producer, it credits the show and his IMDb credit. FAlexCharles (talk) 19:56, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2023

Remove the distributor (Warner Bros. Television Distribution); the distribution label is not used for Cartoon Network/Adult Swim shows, negating the need for the mention of the series. 124.217.188.167 (talk) 07:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. ––FormalDude (talk) 07:45, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2023

Could someone revert this bit of vandalism, please. Possibly a compromised account. 57.140.16.56 (talk) 13:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done Please create an account. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 13:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
@Indagate, thanks for the recommendation and the revert, but - clearly - I prefer not to. 57.140.16.56 (talk) 13:43, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2023

So I found this Hollywood Reporter article a few months ago that reveals what the show's production was like whenever Justin Roiland was involved, which apparently reveals that he and Harmon began to drift apart during Season 3's production.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/justin-roiland-animation-empire-implosion-rick-and-morty-1235319366/

It defiantly explains a lot about why the show felt different after the second season ended, especially since all the newer seasons no longer have the same dynamic that the first two had.

A lot of other important details are present in this article aswell, such as:

  • Roiland being very uncomfortable with the writer's room growing during the second season.
  • Some of the show's writers having to walk to a Toys R Us during the third season's production in order to buy things for Roiland to play with, since he was simply uninterested and was often distracted which slowed down the writing process.
  • Roiland annoying the show's writers with a remote control car that he could also speak with... ( ...Yeah, all those reactions were somewhat real sadly. ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DI946ov1ns It's also a bit cursed how well the 2:33 timestamp aged, not even kidding here.
  • Roiland mostly just creating crude drawings in the writer's room rather than helping with the writing process for the third season, which conflicted with Harmon's perfectionism at the time.
  • Harmon and Roiland becoming very angry and bitter with each other to the point where the show had to bring in a mediator to try and salvage what was left of their relationship.
  • The entire production crew having a huge meeting on January 17th 2023 once the allegations hit, as they questioned what their next steps were moving forward.
  • Warner Bros Discovery becoming appalled and furious with the situation, demanding the company to put out a statement.

There's probably some I didn't list still, but I do think a lot of the stuff in the article needs to be added since there's literality nothing on the Wikipedia page that references it yet. 2600:1700:B090:4950:A8F1:CDA6:C85B:E87F (talk) 07:09, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

You can add all that yourself to the article, you don't need to ask permission first or anything. Just make sure you aren't plagiarizing or anything.Harryhenry1 (talk) 08:03, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Can't do that unfortunately since the article is semi-protected and I ultimately don't have an account, so I'd rather just leave the article up here for someone else to add in instead.
There's no actual rush to put anything in, although I have seen many people question why the show feels so different compared to what it was like before since the writing and character dynamic isn't the same anymore.
( i.e Rick going from being a wacky scientist to the smartest man. Morty going from an awkward teenager to a crazier mini-version of Rick.)
I'm not saying character development is a bad thing, but it does feel like there was an internal fight over what direction the show should go in.
The Hollywood Reporter article ultimately answers these questions since they have insider knowledge, so I do hope someone at least puts most of what it talks about into the show's Wikipedia page since it's all very important. 2600:1700:B090:4950:5977:27BB:E2A8:D44C (talk) 19:50, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
You can easily create an account and add the info yourself, or write the information in a way someone with an account can copy-paste so more likely to add it, if you don't do either then someone might add it in the future if they want. Indagate (talk) 19:54, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Well, it's been a while. But there is now a second Hollywood Reporter article about the situation where Dan Harmon basically confirms that everything mentioned actually happened during an interview.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/dan-harmon-interview-rick-morty-community-krapopolis-justin-roiland-1235600699/
Here's some of that basic points that happened in general that I'll list here.
  • Harmon confirms that him bringing on an entirely new writing team after Season 2 caused Roiland to feel uncomfortable, resulting in him slowly withdrawing from the production process.
  • Roiland admitting that he felt miserable working on the show starting from Season 3's production.
  • Mike Lazzo being aware of the growing tensions between Roiland and Harmon during his visits.
  • Harmon states that he hasn't had a single conversation with him since 2019 via text messages, which ultimately ended with Roiland angrily confronting him about something.
  • Harmon making the decision to hire Scott Marder as a new showrunner, since he no longer had the motivation to continue running the show without more help.
  • Harmon largely avoiding the recasting process for Roiland's characters, which was mostly from denial.
  • Harmon feeling disgusted by Roiland's accusations, although he still felt guilty and ashamed about potentially playing a part in his downfall by accidently forcing him to work with the new writing team.
I think this basically confirms that Roiland and Harmon have lost their passion and motivation for the show because of everything that's happened, so I do think it's probably time for the Wikipedia page to mention these subjects now that we have official confirmation from the show's co-creator.
Very few people can actually edit the article though due to it's semi-protected status though, so hopefully someone else adds this in eventually. 2600:1700:B090:4950:E882:17EC:F8AE:1465 (talk) 02:26, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Anyone with an account can edit the page, easy to create an account so please do Indagate (talk) 19:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Anyone with an account, so not them because they don't own an account. 2601:643:8C80:DB90:3477:4317:860D:313A (talk) 04:08, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Creating an account is free and easy Indagate (talk) 07:26, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. To specify, this is an edit suggestion, rather than an edit request. If you have specific content you would like to add to the article, then please create a new edit request that presents the wording of that new content and explains where the new content would go if it were added into the article. Please provide reliable sources for all the proposed new content. -- Pinchme123 (talk) 01:12, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better if someone who's experienced with Wikipedia like yourself made these edits though? Because I feel like someone who doesn't even have an account wouldn't know the best way to add this information in.
There are two Hollywood Reporter sources that were brought to people's attention, so that alone should be enough tbh. 2600:1700:B090:4950:F83B:CF0D:32C8:9FC1 (talk) 21:48, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2023

I request that Kari Walhgren be removed from the "voices of" section. JasonLeeDrake (talk) 22:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

She has 37 credits, but she's never been a main cast member, doesn't voice a main character, and isn't credited as a series regular, unlike Justin Roiland, Chris Parnell, Spencer Grammer, Sarah Chalke, Ian Cardoni, and Harry Belden.

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. HouseBlastertalk 00:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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