Talk:Rob Neyer

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The slam on Olney, while appropriate, calls into question the viewpoint neutrality.

6:37 chat link: http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=14877 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wickethewok (talkcontribs) 16:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Portland, Oregon[edit]

I thought I read that he was neighbors with Jeff Sulivan -- http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2011/2/1/1968019/welcome-rob-neyer -- doesn't Jeff live in Seattle? Or am I making this up?Sean 15:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, according to his twitter page (http://twitter.com/LOOKOUTLANDING) Jeff Sullivan lives in Portland, he just writes about Seattle sports.--Sean (talk) 21:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kansas City Royals[edit]

Is he still a fan, or should we say was? (cf. http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/6854/will-royals-many-phenoms-bring-me-back) --Sean 16:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Changed this at least for now to "was".--Sean 16:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seancasey00 (talkcontribs)

One Day at Fenway[edit]

Is this section relevant? I think it's an interesting tid-bit but does it need to take up a quarter or so of Rob Neyer's encyclopedic entry? --Sean 16:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I think it says more about how short the rest of the article is than that this section is too long. It's a sourced controversy which I believe warrants its inclusion. The unsourced lines are probably not needed, but not regularly following this article, I wasnt bold enough to remove it without knowing a possible background so I marked it and let it play out. Bagumba (talk) 02:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Unclear whether his article (http://web.archive.org/web/20070902143144/http://www.robneyer.com/OneDayFenway.html) was truly an apology, or rather if it's not an explanatory piece. While Neyer writes, "I’m not saying it was the right thing to do, but the truth is that I didn’t give it a lot of thought," his conclusion is the following:

"The real story here isn’t that Rob Neyer hated a book that bears little resemblance to a book that he wrote four years ago. The real story isn’t that Rob Neyer wrote a nasty book review, initially under an assumed name, that would have been mostly ignored and quickly forgotten.

No, the real story is that if somebody writes a negative review and somebody else doesn't like it, Amazon will kill it. The real story is that Steve Kettmann wrote a crummy book, and in response his friends and family are flooding the Internet with ridiculously generic reviews that are designed to fool the public. Shame on my colleague Ken Davidoff for helping them, and shame on Amazon for letting them get away with it."

I changed the second paragraph ("Days later, Neyer issued an apology on ESPN.com, saying he messed up") to reflect this. Sean (talk) 22:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just can't find this citation anywhere "The thing that I find strange about all of this is that [Oakland A's general manager] Billy Beane, someone who I thought Rob Neyer respects, read my book cover to cover and told me he loved it."[citation needed]". I think it's important to the article right now but I'm concerned that my quick google searches lead to us as the possible originator of it.--Sean (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Insider Access[edit]

I removed this paragraph from the article, now that he writes for SB Nation I think it's an interesting footnote but not necessarily encyclopedic:

'Until 2004, Neyer's work was available without subscription. For a few years, it was part of the "Insider" service and could thus only be read with a paid subscription. After 2007, the bulk of Neyer's ESPN work shifted to his daily blog, The Sweetspot Network which is not "Insider-only."'

vegetarianism[edit]

It turns out Rob Neyer has been a vegetarian for over 20 years. It's interesting, could be worthy including in his biography if he's spoken out about it in other places:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/print_story.php?story_id=30497

--Sean 18:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seancasey00 (talkcontribs)

response to One Day At Fenway[edit]

Is it safe to assume that what is on RobNeyer.com is the same as his response posted on ESPN.com? Not clear from article. Bagumba (talk) 23:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch--Sean (talk) 10:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay for now I took out the ESPN part. The problem with the original text "Days later, Neyer issued an apology on ESPN.com, saying he messed up." is that the source it used (http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/print_story.php?story_id=30497) says this "ESPN forced him to write an explanation on ESPN.com because of the conflict of interest, and told him to refrain from reviewing baseball books. 'I didn’t really apologize. I just said I screwed up,' he says."
It's not entirely unreasonable to keep the original text but it would be better if someone could find the ESPN article.--Sean (talk) 10:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Host of SABRcast[edit]

I believe that Neyer's hosting of SABRcast (starting in 2019) should be mentioned somewhere in the article. The podcast has now run for over 4 years and 200 episodes.

https://sabr.org/sabrcast Michael Poplawski (talk) 05:19, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]