Talk:Rock on the Range

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Default was on the list for the second day. Are they going to be there anymore?

Where is rumored that Guns & Roses will headline in 2009? I can't fing that info anywhere —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slarsen84 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Rock on the Range 2016 Line-Up

(cur | prev) 14:55, 1 December 2015‎ Walter Görlitz (talk | contribs)‎ . . (21,793 bytes) (-1,585)‎ . . (Reverted 1 edit by 2602:30A:C033:13F0:615E:14E6:DF16:F117: Speculative and promotional until the event happens. In the spirit of WP:NCONCERT. (TW)) (undo)

I do not agree with your premise at all, for to do so would mean every wiki article pertaining to all scientific theories and other theories in general as well as any religious beliefs concerning end times (i.e. The Rapture) would also then have to be removed from wiki for being as you stated "speculative and promotional until the event happens". I'd like to see you try to convince the people that post those articles that they are wrong using the same argument, something tells me you'd lose that battle just as you should lose this one.

Also, the spirit of WP.NCONCERT does not apply. If read correctly, it applies only to "Concert Tours" not individual annual events held in the same city/venue as ROTR does, so I believe it's stretch on your part to cite it as part of your reason to remove the 2016 Line-Up (probably because of it's brief Canadian stint but not with the same bands as ROTR U.S.A). But lets just say for sake of argument that it did apply, are you saying the event would not qualify for notability? I mean based on it's size, scope, success, notoriety and longevity it certainly should. A simple Google search proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt with all the source material that shows up in the results pertaining to the event. 2602:30A:C033:13F0:60E9:1CAA:DEE6:B39E (talk) 15:42, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

I didn't come up with the guideline. I suggest you discuss it at the guideline instead.

With that said, it makes sense that we don't know that the line-up is final and so it's speculative, not encyclopedic, at this point. It's also promotional. The latter point has been a problem with this article for a while, with a promoter trying to influence this article. It means that it get more scrutiny than other articles do. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

And for the record, it's WP:NOTADVERTISING. Also see MOS:HEADINGS (don't put references in headings). Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:33, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Rock On The Range 2016

Hi, I created a whole new section for rotr 2016 about 30 minutes ago, and someone deleted it. This upsets me very much as I worked hard on it. Please explain why someone deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PugsNotDrugsHD333 (talk • contribs) 14:53, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

and Walter if it was you I'm gonna be real mad cause you harassed me on the carolina rebellion page too — Preceding unsigned comment added by PugsNotDrugsHD333 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't care how mad you get at me the reason for the deletion was provided: WP:NOTADVERTISING, WP:NCONCERT. Read them. I also contested the Carolina Rebellion article because it needed to be. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:43, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Rock on the Range 2017

There has been some debate about whether to post the lineup on here before the actual festival takes place, but the 2017 lineup has been announced some time ago, and whether the lineup does not happen as planned, it is still an objective fact that it is supposed to happen this way. It's not promotional--on a related note, the festival is already sold-out, and this information could also be added to a new ″Rock on the Range 2017″ section. Also, the Rock on the Range website lists additional changes for the 2017 festival, including adding RFID-enabled bracelets . Adding information about this change here is simply informative. JBerchtold (talk) 03:24, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

There's no debate. There is a policy (WP:NOTADVERTISING) and a guideline (WP:NCONCERT) that essentially say that until multiple sources discuss it, we don't publicize it. Deleting your additions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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