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Wrong article name: "Rosh Pina", not "Pinna"[edit]

The article is entitled "Rosh Pinna" but the sidebar lists the official English as "Rosh Pina" and all the official and semi-official references on the web show the latter as well.

Page name should be retitled as "Rosh Pina." izaakb ~talk ~contribs 14:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely correct! It's only a WP quirk, because there is some obscure Rosh Pina minyan (!!!) in the US who got the Wikipedia name for itself. That should become Rosh Pina (minyan), and this should become Rosh Pina, period. Everything else is hilarious. Who is in charge here? Arminden (talk) 12:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)Arminden[reply]

Hillarious or not, the spelling Rosh Pinna is very common in good English sources. For example, that is how it is spelt on maps of the Survey of Palestine and on the official lists of village units in the Palestine Gazette. In the 1931 census it was written like this: Rosh Pinná. It is also written as Rosh Pinna in the Israeli Yearbook of 1952 (Settlement list on page III). In tons of history books old and new, too. Mind you, the spelling Rosh Pina occurs in lots of places as well, and seems to predominate in the English editions of modern Israeli newspapers. I don't really mind which one is the main article title. Look at ngrams, it's a real battle. Zero^talk 12:40, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not Um Juni[edit]

This claim is incorrect: "Rosh Pinna was known as Um-Juni, in Ottoman times."[1] In fact, Um-Juni was the original name of Degania, named after the Arab village of that name which was nearby.[2][3][4] Zero^talk 15:33, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lots of work needed[edit]

This article was in terrible shape, with things repeated multiple times, internal contradictions, etc etc. I have fixed it a bit, but it is still in need of attention. I'll mention here a few things:

There was an account that three families of "Gei Oni" remained until the Romanians arrived. It may be true, but the source was the now-dead website of a hotel (or maybe an estate agent) advertising "luxurious suites". There is no way such a source is acceptable. A strong source is needed before this can return, as both Avneri (who gives a detailed account) and Encyclopedia Judaica say that Gei Oni was abandoned.
There is a paragraph on "Moshe David Shub" but no indication of who he was and why he is here. I left it, but it's going to be deleted unless a justification is forthcoming.
The patronage of Rothschild is in both Avneri and Encyc Judaica, but the "first" in that sentence is what is missing.
Lots of mandate-era and Israeli-era history is missing.

Zero^talk 12:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]