Talk:Roy Williamson

Useful piece in the Herald

A lot of biographical information here in a piece by Alan Campbell. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:55, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Cruikshank and Cockburn

Ronnie Brown's predecessor is given two different names here. Hunting around online, I find each name is used in different sources, (apparently independent of Wikipedia) though they appear to be the same person. One source says Cockburn is an error. Does anyone have a definitive solution to the discrepancy? Koro Neil (talk) 03:01, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Ron Cockburn, the name that appears in the Falconer Museum material, is an error. Ron Cruikshank is the correct name. Roy Williamson's daughter Karen wrote a detailed biography of him after his death; its title is "'FLOWER OF SCOTLAND'--ROY WILLIAMSON, MY FATHER." On page 43 of the book, Karen remarks that in 1961, Bill Smith formed a group called The Corrie Voices "with Ron Cruikshank, and Roy." On page 48, Karen notes that "Ron Cruikshank contracted glandular fever" and left the group.

DESDICHADO (talk) 07:27, 14 January 2018 (UTC) DESDICHADO (talk) 01:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC) DESDICHADO (talk) 06:47, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

The Corries official website says "Ron Cockburn" was the original member of the Corries who developed Glandular Fever; with no mention of anyone named Cruikshank. The site is administrated by Gavin Browne, who is the son of Ronnie Browne; with direct input coming from Ronnie Browne himself. I think in this case the living man is a more reliable source than the book. Mediatech492 (talk) 20:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Ron Cruikshank is the correct name.

Sorry, but what you note is wrong. Bill Smith, a founding member of The Corrie Folk Trio, is on record as observing in an interview with Balladeer that "The Corrie Folk Trio was founded by architects, Bill Smith and Ron Cruikshank (other sources have erroneously reported Ron Cockburn), after returning from a song collecting trip in Ireland." Karen Williamson knew Bill Smith and correctly used the name "Ron Cruikshank" in two places. Please do not change the name again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DESDICHADO (talk • contribs) 01:28, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

No, the Corries official website confirms the name Cockburn. I have found no RS that mentions anyone named Cruickshank connected to the Corries. See WP:RETAIN.

The Corries website information is incorrect.

The website information is simply wrong, and so are your assumptions. Please do not alter the name; your mistakes are annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DESDICHADO (talk • contribs) 04:53, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

I make no assumption or mistake. The website is a good Reliable Source, and is personally backed by a live member of the band, Ronnie Browne. You have offered no evidence for your claim that it is inaccurate. Mediatech492 (talk) 11:46, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

GAVIN BROWNE'S REMARK

I have contacted Gavin Browne about the matter. Here is what he had to say:

Hi,

The article on corries.com was written many years ago in a programme sold at Corries concerts. I lifted the information from it and put it on the website.

I have just checked with my dad and he confirms it was Ron Cruikshank and I have just changed the information on corries.com to reflect this.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Hopefully you will not have any further trouble setting wikipedia right.

All the best,

Gavin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DESDICHADO (talk • contribs) 17:02, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Other Work

Can anyone confirm whether or not this gentleman is the Roy Williamson listed as the anouncer for 2 episodes of The Navy Lark? SENIRAM (talk) 14:59, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Probably not; Roy Williamson the singer and musician died of a brain tumor in 1990 EPISCOPALIAN (talk) 02:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Not impossible, depending on dates - Roy was involved with the BBC from the early sixties and according to his daughter did a lot of freelance work. I notice also Chic Murray was involved, which might be the connection. 80.189.153.72 (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)