Talk:SIG Sauer M17

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Primary materials?[edit]

I find it odd that the article never mentions what the primary materials are for the M17 (frame, slide, etc.) Polymer? -alloy? -stainless steel? -flubber? Searching through the references didn't clear that up either. Does anyone know? Bricology (talk) 10:35, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the M17 or P320 wikipedia page will give you more information, but typically pistols have a steel slide to handle the energy, and a polymer lower to save on weight. The Beretta M9 has a metal lower so I believe it would be a heaver weapon. 2600:1700:F050:2F10:4957:F891:4BF4:B0BB (talk) 23:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The M17 and M18 use a stainless steel slide, barrel, and FCU. The lower grip section where the FCU is housed, (called the grip module) is polymer. --1fireyphoenixx (talk) 00:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

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To not merge as the competition is independently notable of the service pistols. Klbrain (talk) 06:53, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to merge XM17 Modular Handgun System competition into SIG Sauer M17. As the MHS trail is completed, it makes more sense to have only this article, in the same form as the articles on the M1911 and Beretta M9. I do not see articles on other comparable small arms trials. Most of the information on the MHS page would be appropriate historical context on this page. Some information is already duplicated. The MHS page is linked from other places and would need to be redirected here. TXAggie (talk) 22:46, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a good idea, but should also consider the P320 page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P320 2600:1700:F050:2F10:4957:F891:4BF4:B0BB (talk) 23:21, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this is a bad idea, as folding in the whole XM17 trial page into the M17 page will unnecessarily clutter the page specifically for the M17. Wikipedia already has a page on the adoption of the XM9: Joint Service Small Arms Program I do have to say however, Wikipedia does not have a page on the 1907 pistol trials. --1fireyphoenixx (talk) 00:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with 1fireyphoenixx. The M17 and the CM17 MHS Competition are two different things. Yes, there's plenty of overlap, but one is about the competition and the other is about a particular firearm that was part of that competition. As a firearms historian, I value having these pages separate, and I think merging them would create a whole lot of clutter. Mike Helms (talk) 20:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Propose changing article's name to M17/M18 Modular Handgun System[edit]

Even though the M9 pistol's page does it, I really don't think it's something we should emulate. Most of the other weapon systems' articles are named by designation and item name, like M4 Carbine, M240 machine gun rather than Colt M4 or FN M240.

I think it's especially warranted since (like the m9) there's a separate page for the base pistol (SIG P320) and this is a separate page for the us military version--so it's not like the Barrett MRAD where renaming the page to MK22 Advanced Sniper Rifle would screw over the fact that the article still applies to non-US military versions of the rifle. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]