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Controversial[edit]

I've watched both versions of the video many times and NEVER do I see her "caressing her nipples (over her dress)." This needs to be deleted if not proven. Zaque 24 22:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You people are not focusing on whats important here. Her boobs are AMAZING in this video!


song title[edit]

What's going on with the back-and-forth of this song's title? I haven't seen any documentation that it has a subtitle of "Rescue Me". The cover image of the single doesn't say "Rescue Me", and Billboard lists the track just as "SOS" and download sites like iTunes also just list "SOS". Do the album credits show the song with "Rescue Me" in the title? -- eo 12:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Amazon.com lists the song as "Sos", and a Google search for "SOS (Rescue Me)" returns only unofficial lyrics, blogs, Wikipedia, etc. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 21:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK so if a bunch of unofficial fan sites say "Rescue Me" and Billboard, Def Jam, Rihanna's website and Amazon all just say "SOS" then shouldn't the page be moved back? I see it still says "Rescue Me" but I dont want to go ahead and re-move it again if there's some kind of dispute going on. -- eo 01:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently, AOL Music and MuchMusic etc. call it "SOS (Rescue Me)" -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 02:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Well I saw the video today on VH1 Soul and it just said "SOS". MTV credits are wrong on many occasions. I would think that the record label's website and title that actually appears on the physical product would be a stronger source than MTV credits. Right? -- eo 02:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(originally posted at User talk:Tcatron565): I think I've found out why some sources say "SOS (Rescue Me)": if you check out a previous version of the SOS cover, it says "SOS (Rescue Me)". The record label must have removed the extra part at the last minute, and some websites/channels haven't bothered to change the title. And that the page title "has been changed too much" isn't a valid reason not to move it back; Wikipedia has to reflect the facts either way. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 23:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Kind of like continuing to call "Return of the Jedi" "Revenge of the Jedi" because that was its original title and some promotional material was released with that title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.101.94.100 (talk) 13:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article should be moved to SOS (Rescue Me). There's no need for the "(Rihanna song)" at the end. --Musicpvm 06:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

err ok, so you know for sure then that "Rescue Me" is officially part of the title? -- eo 13:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really sure about that, but if the article does end up keeping this title, the "(Rihanna song)" part is unnecessary. Otherwise, SOS (Rihanna song) works. I'm not sure if the parenthetical part is official or not though. I've seen it both ways. --Musicpvm 17:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Musicpvm. The title "SOS (Rescue Me)" or "SOS (Rihanna song)" is enough. Which one is it gonna be ? -- Luigi-ish 12:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If one will check out the label on the disc, that will give the song's title confidently. -Acjelen 10:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(rihanna song) is necessary: see [1] for a list of songs called SOS. The others are in the format S.O.S (Abba Song) or S.O.S (Jonah Brothers Song), so it should be S.O.S (Rihanna song). Kuronue | Talk 06:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

delletd in UK?[edit]

Why was it deleted in the UK?someone tell me please!

kelo + rihanna = happyness

For expansion[edit]

Background[edit]

Calvin Watch n' Learn

Composition[edit]

Calvin Watch n' Learn

Critical reception[edit]

Calvin Watch n' Learn 00:33, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charts[edit]

Release[edit]

removed from article as i am c/e[edit]

1[edit]

"SOS" is an uptempo dancehall and reggaefusion song.[1] Inspired by the Rotem's sampling of the 1980s classic in Soft Cell's 1981 version of "Tainted Love" (originally by Gloria Jones), co-writer Evan Bogart quoted some of his own favourite 80s songs in the lyrics, including A-Ha's "Take on Me", Cutting Crew's "(I Just) Died in Your Arms", Tears for Fears's "Head Over Heels", Michael Jackson's "The Way You Make Me Feel", Modern English's "I Melt with You" and Kim Wilde's "You Keep Me Hanging On" (itself a cover version, it was originally performed by the Supremes in 1966, with another popular cover by Vanilla Fudge the year after).[2]

The song also references songs from other decades including ABBA's "SOS" in the title itself, Elton John's 1971 song "Tiny Dancer" with the line "Just hold me close boy cos I'm your tiny dancer" and the original sampled song "Tainted Love" with the lyric, "You got me tossin' and turnin' and I can't sleep at night".[2] Lyrically, "SOS" is based around the song's protagonist crying out for help as she becomes besotted with a lover. The lyrics deal with being unaccustomed to falling in love and believes that she is out of character, stating: "cause you on my mind, it's got me losing it."

2[edit]

In the United States, "SOS" hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100, Pop 100, Hot Dance Music/Club Play, Hot Dance Airplay, Hot Digital Songs and Hot Digital Tracks; the song also hit number two on the Pop 100 Airplay, but could not get past the massive airplay of Sean Paul's single "Temperature". The song was made available as a digital download upon the release of the album and its first week of digital sales prompted a dramatic jump from number thirty-four to number-one, becoming one of the biggest jumps to the number one position in Billboard history. The single remained at number-one for three weeks. The reason for the large jump was that "SOS" was kept off most digital download services until her album was released to stimulate more album sales. "SOS" was Rihanna's fourth biggest radio hit in the United States. The song topped 2,000,000 paid digital downloads in the United States in January 2011, according to Nielsen Soundscan.[3]

Internationally, "SOS" became Rihanna's first number-one hit in Australia. It stayed at the top for eight consecutive weeks, making it the singer's biggest hit in Australia. The song also reached number two on the UK and German singles charts, number four on the Dutch chart, and number seven in Italy. In Romania the song competed with both "If It's Lovin' That You Want" and "Unfaithful" since "SOS" was pushed back due to the good performance of "If It's Lovin' That You Want", and when finally released, "Unfaithful" had already start gaining heavy radio airplay. "SOS" reached number twenty-eight in the Romanian Singles Chart.

"SOS" was removed from the UK charts after thirteen weeks because there was a remix of "SOS" contained on the "Unfaithful" single. Due to UK chart rules, a new single cannot have a remix of a previous single if the original song is still charting, which is why the song left the charts at twenty-seven. However, the song was still a huge hit, being the UK's ninth best-selling single of the year.[4] The song also hit number-one for two weeks on ECD:UK. in the United Kingdom the single sold over 300,000 copies to-date. "SOS" sold over 4.6 million copies worldwide.

3[edit]

The Chipettes covered this song for the Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked: Music from the Motion Picture album. In the "Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked" film, Jeanette Miller briefly sung the song's chorus.

References

  1. ^ "Rihanna – S.O.S. Sheet Music". Music Notes. Retrieved 12-25-2011. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  2. ^ a b "Interview With Evan Bogart", HitQuarters, 8 February 2010.
  3. ^ Grein, Paul (January 5, 2011). "Week Ending Jan. 2, 2011: This Is No Bomb". Yahoo. Retrieved 30 January 2011.
  4. ^ Top 40 Singles of 2006, from BBC Radio 1 website

Fellow Wikipedians...[edit]

Rihanna performed SOS at the 2006 MTV EMAs, TRL, Top of the Pops, Ellen and a few other shows, but I'm really surprised that I can't find any sources for them. If anyone could find any, I'd be really grateful. Thanks. Calvin Watch n' Learn 04:49, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination[edit]

Live performance[edit]

Why the section is not present. Come on, its "SOS", Rihanna performed on the 2006 EMA, Good Girl Gone Bad Tour, Last Girl on Earth Tour ... I am sure there are some sources about the performances. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 19:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Look two sections above, Tomica. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:48, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oooh. I will try. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 19:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is all I found :S. Really there is a lack of SOS Live Performances on the net. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 20:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I mean, there isn't enough to make a section out of it. The first source requires Flash Player, the second is good, third has virtually no info about it, fourth is good. Thanks. Calvin Watch n' Learn 20:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Extras about Good Girl Gone Bad Tour.

You can have like model "Rehab" or "Unfaithful" to see how I did it there. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 22:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, they don't compare in terms of quantity of information. Calvin Watch n' Learn 22:40, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:SOS (Rihanna song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Basilisk4u (talk · contribs) 04:45, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Aaron You Da One 13:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I will review this article. Basilisk4u (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notes[edit]

Lead
  • The word "song" may be used a few too many times in the lead. Try "record" or "track" occasionally.
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "'SOS' is a dance-pop and R&B song, with elements of dance music and contains a compositional sample of 'Tainted Love', a song written by Ed Cobb in 1965." Move the comma so it is after "dance music". I also think you should add that the song was made popular by Soft Cell, because that is the more well-known version.
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "In Europe, the song peaked inside the top-five on most countries singles charts..." I think the "most countries singles charts" part is oddly worded. I would recommend "on many charts across the continent" or something of that nature. Also, why is "top five" hyphenated?
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "'SOS' was performed live at the 2006 MTV EMA awards in Copenhagen, Denmark." What makes this performance more notable than the others?
    That is the only live performance I could source, hence why there is no Live performance section. Aaron You Da One
  • "The song was included on the set list of the Last Girl on Earth Tour (2010-11), performing a 'rock-influenced' version." This sentence does not say who was performing it; change to "The song was included on the set list of the Last Girl on Earth Tour (2010-11), in which Rihanna performed 'rock-influenced' version."
     Done Aaron You Da One
Background and conception
  • Again, mention the Soft Cell version of "Tainted Love"
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "In an interview with HitQuarters, Rotem explain the song's conception..." --> "In an interview with HitQuarters, Rotem explained the song's conception..."
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • Two sentences in a row begin with "In an interview with...". Change the wording for one of them.
     Done Aaron You Da One
Production and mixing
  • "explained that the reason why he compressed the background vocals was because 'SOS' is a 'high energy track,'" --> "explained that he compressed the background vocals because 'SOS' is a 'high energy track,'"
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "Tan also noted that the background vocals were pitch shifted, so that they tonal quality could be increased and to create an enhanced effect during the chorus." Change to "Tan also noted that the background vocals were pitch shifted to increase tonal quality and create an enhanced effect during the chorus."
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "The pitch shifting consisted of making the left vocals flat and the right vocals sharp, with varying degrees of delay, and were then mixed together." --> "and later mixing them together".
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "Tan continued to note that there is not a lot of reverb included on "SOS", largely due to the fact that there was not a lot of room left to add anything else, being a up-tempo song." --> "Tan continued to note that the lack of reverb included on "SOS" was largely due to the fact that being an uptempo song, there was not a lot of room left to add anything else."
     Done Aaron You Da One
Composition
  • "'SOS' is a up-tempo[8] dance-pop and contemporary R&B song,[10] and it draws influence from dance music." --> "'SOS' is a up-tempo[8] dance-pop and contemporary R&B song[10] that influence from dance music."
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • It seems a bit like the second paragraph of this section should be added to the "Critical reception" section, but either way works. I would suggest that you add a sentence at the beginning of the paragraph that says "The use of the 'Tainted Love' sample was well-received by critics".
     Done Aaron You Da One
Release
  • "The maxi single included both the radio edit and instrumental versions of "SOS", as well as album track "Break It Off", which features Sean Paul." --> "as well as the album track "Break It Off", which features Jamaican reggae singer Sean Paul."
     Done Aaron You Da One
Response
  • "However, Lamb criticized Rihanna for not displaying any sense of originality or being unique." I think the "or being unique" part is a bit redundant.
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "Despite praising "SOS", Cinquemani continued to write that it was the only song on A Girl Like Me which displayed a high level of 'audacity'." I think that he meant that the "audacity" was a positive thing. Or are you comparing it to how he felt about the other songs on the album? Please clarify.
    I don't say it is either positive or negative. Aaron You Da One
Chart performance
  • "becoming the singers first number one single on the Hot 100." --> "becoming the singer's first number one single on the Hot 100."
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • Four sentences in a row begin with "In..." Try to change the wording for some of them
    Lol, to what?! I don't think it's a problem to be honest. Aaron You Da One
  • Make sure the countries are linked (Belgium, Finland, Switzerland, etc.)
    You don't have to link countries. Aaron You Da One
  • "In the Belgium..." --> "In Belgium..."
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • "In Finland, the song spent two weeks on that countries singles chart..." --> "In Finland, the song spent two weeks on the countries singles chart..."
     Done Aaron You Da One
Music videos
  • "whilst another was shot for a Nike campaign." I think "while" would be better to use here.
    You shouldn't use "while" in prose really. "Whilst" is more professional standard of writing. Aaron You Da One
    Never heard that before. From what I know, "whilst" is more common in British English, but "while" is the preferred choice. Check out the Misplaced formality section of Tony1's WP:1A guide. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:12, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The video begins with Rihanna wearing a low cut green dress, dancing in front tropical plants on a beach, whilst singing the hook." --> "The video begins with Rihanna singing the hook while wearing a low cut green dress and dancing in front tropical plants on a beach."
     Done Aaron You Da One
  • Why is there no description of the Agent Provocateur video?
    Because I can't find a video of it :P Aaron You Da One
References
  • I don't think ref#10 should be in "cite news" format, as Allmusic is an online source.
    It's not a printed publication, it's just a website. So it's cite web. Aaron You Da One
  • This section looks good!
On hold

I have placed the review on hold. This article looks great though and it is well on its way to being a good article! Basilisk4u (talk) 05:38, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I am at uni atm so I will do this tonight. Aaron You Da One 11:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have done everything. Aaron You Da One 16:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Happy to pass this article now. Basilisk4u (talk) 19:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :D Aaron You Da One 19:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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