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Suggested merging with endosperm

That article refers about specific tissue do NOT merge it with article about plant organ (seed), not only that it is different topic, it is different point of view. Why do one would suppose it should be merged? Just only because the one is a part of the later? Then Texas as a part of the USA should be merged in it... No, it should'nt be, I do not mean it really and endosperm shouldn't be merged in anything. It deserves it's own entry. Reo On | +++ 02:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


Only with the section on mangrove seeds - the statement they have a heavy root which allows them to penetrate the soil on landing is misleading. In fact many will float for sometimes considerable distances until reaching a suitable mudbank and taking deeper root.

Self-seeding flowers

I was hoping to find a list of self-seeding flowers I could use in a cottage garden. 80.2.198.47 12:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Well that is going to depend on were you garden, the best way to answer that question for a wide aduance is to say - Use plants that are native to your area". If a plant reproduces in the "wild" in your area it most likely is going to do so in your garden too. Hardyplants 14:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Poison and Food Safety

Should this section be split to a separate page, such as the list_of_edible_seeds? Should we solicit expert help for this section? Thank you for all the contributions! PolarYukon 08:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


The seed is the beginning of a plant or flower. It's purpose is to guard the plant before it will grow out of the soil. It also gives nutrients to the plant or the flower. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.30.129 (talk) 00:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Is a seed a single cell?

Could this page please state clearly whether or not a seed in edible fruit is a single cell. I assume it has been fertilised for the fruit to grow, but since it has not germinated, is it still a single cell? The cell (biology) page says that an ostrich egg is the biggest cell, so my guess is that an ungerminated coconut is already multiple cells. Is that true generally? Thanks LachlanA (talk) 20:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Seeds have millions of cells, soybean cotyledons in one study had from 4.6 x 106 to 10.3 x 106 cells. [1] This might be worthwhile information to add to this article. Hardyplants (talk) 22:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Even the smallest seeds, those of orchids, have multiple cells, although I haven't been able to quickly find any representative counts.--Curtis Clark (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
This could be a matter of how you look at it. The endosperm in angiosperm seeds is a large multinucleate tissue that does not divide into separate cells. So, in some seeds the endosperm tissue of the seed could be considered a large single cell (technically). --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The endosperm might be a large cell or cell layer, but its not a seed without the embryo. So maybe we could use a section on the cells of seeds. In some species the endosperm is alive, in others it is not, some are "multi-celled" while others are not, some endosperm is even liquid. Hardyplants (talk)
If I recall correctly the seed coat is neither embyro nor endosperm, but maternal tissue. Lavateraguy (talk) 11:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
For a bit of water muddying, there's the case of polyembryonic seeds. Lavateraguy (talk) 11:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
This seems to be a common occurrence in the many species, that is fixed as the seed develops.[2] I have occasional come across seeds that have two plants within the same seed coat. So when you sow one seed, two functioning plants emerge. Hardyplants (talk) 12:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The endosperm page could use more info, if I come across sources I could add some to that page, preoccupied with neurons right now. Hardyplants (talk) 11:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

seeds without food storage?

Is there an example of a seed with no food storage? If not, then this phrase could be stronger by striking the usually:

usually with some stored food.

Thanks. --Jake (talk) 19:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I think the phrase was meant that orchid seeds (for example) have no endosperm. It's a big vague, since stored food could be in the cotyledons of the embryo. Nadiatalent (talk) 21:14, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Certified seed

Hey, does anyone feel up to adding information on certified seed (also breeder seed, foundation seed and registered seed) to this article? [3] has some information; [4] also talks about the various kinds, and adds nucleus stock and "truthfully labelled/quality declared" seed. -- Schneelocke (talk) 14:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Not small, not an embryonic plant

Seeds are not necessarily small, see coconut and beche-de-mer. Seeds are plant embryos, to describe them as embryonic plants implies that they are a plant in some sort of form, rather than the more correct descriptor: plant part. A seed may be infertile, incapable of growing into a plant, a seed may be dead, again incapable of growing but because of external not internal factors. A plant is a whole plant, an embryo may grow into a plant, but it itself does not start to function as a plant until it germinates. 08:18, 5 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunswicknic (talk • contribs)

Even in the case of the coconut, the seed is small by comparison to the adult plant. Seeds are not embryos; they contain an embryo, and that embryo is an immature plant. To say that an embryo is not a plant is like saying that a cow's fetus is not a cow. It is, but it's immature. --EncycloPetey (talk) 09:59, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Seeds in Literature

Seeds were a popular theme of Jesus' parables. He compared the kingdom of God to a mustard seed.[1] He told a story of a sower spreading seeds, and made the comparison of seeds being a symbol of "the Word of God."[2] Jesus also compared himself to a seed, saying, "unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds."[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueman5 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

That is all true, but adding it here is very puzzling because the biblical language is so puzzling. For a modern person, and especially for a biologist, seeing a seed as dead makes no sense, a seed is packed with life. The old terminology might be compared to what is now called dormancy, but if that is done then the metaphor of death makes no sense. I don't see a way to incorporate those references here in a way that is understandable to anyone not quite deeply steeped in that ancient metaphor. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Holy Bible, New International Version, 1976, Matthew 13:31
  2. ^ Holy Bible, King James Version, 1611, Luke 8:8-11
  3. ^ Holy Bible, New International Version, 1976. John 12:24

Edible seeds (section)

In the section there's this sentence:

«Particularly in developing countries, a major constraint faced is the inadequacy of the marketing channels to get the seed to poor farmers.»

Can't see the point (the informative/encyclopedic point) of it. Seems out of place and misinformative.

First, there's almost no "developing" countries. They're just poor countries. There's no development, in most of the cases there's counter-development. And the "inadequacy" of the marketing channels is the simple consequence of the lack of potential profit for the private capital... Poor farmers pay poor price, so, marketing channels keep "inadequate"...

Anyway, and most important: the local government/State could do that distribution job. So, the sentence doesn't explains nothing.

What do you think? Should be removed/modified? Seems just like political propaganda...

Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riveravaldez (talk • contribs) 19:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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