Talk:Self-Portrait (EP)

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Covers[edit]

Are there multiple covers to this album? If so, what is the source for there being more than one? The sources provided don't state this. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:13, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have already provided multiple sources for there being more than one cover on the article. I have linked to the two physical versions it was released in, which show different covers. Ss112 18:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, https://is5-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music123/v4/57/95/2a/57952acc-308c-5078-ac9e-caf4658efe7b/Album_Cover_SUHO_Self-Portrait.jpg/500x500bb.jpg and https://yams.akamaized.net/Assets/62/567/l_p0124256762.jpg are identical (minus the difference in ratio). Neither source says that there is more than one cover. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf: I added the part about there being two different physical versions to the lead. Each of those links contains different covers. That backs up the caption. Ss112 18:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, I don't see any second cover at https://music.apple.com/us/album/self-portrait-the-1st-mini-album/1504639677 ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean to use https://www.yesasia.com/us/exo-suho-mini-album-vol-1-self-portrait-random-version/1088222969-0-0-0-en/info.html? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't. I used two individual sources in the lead to show that there are different physical editions with different covers. I did not add it to the caption, and I didn't mean to. Ss112 18:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I used the first search result from here for a non-affiliate link: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=suho+%22self-portrait%22+covers&t=ffab&atb=v101-1&ia=web Didn't seem that hard to me to find a non-commercial source stating that there are multiple covers. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf: There are two covers: the physical Archive #1 version, and the digital/physical Archive #2 version. I added this to the lead already. The digital version and the Archive #2 version are a collage of four different faces. It is not a collage of four different physical releases. Ss112 18:26, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, For what it's worth, I'm done editing here and have nothing more to add. Ping me if you need me. Have a good one. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:28, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf: Great. But you can search on stores yourself, there are not four different versions, so "four different variants" is obviously just referring to the number of Suho's faces on the collage cover. Ss112 18:30, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, Which of those two sources state that all digital copies of the album have the same cover? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf: Shall I provide links on the article to all digital outlets that sell the album? Because I could do that, but that would be excessive amounts of affiliate links. Apple Music is a digital outlet; it proves it's used as a digital cover. Ss112 18:46, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, No, you obviously shouldn't do that. This shows that it is a digital cover but not the digital cover. I think this would be better as it at least shows that there are two covers but it's actually totally irrelevant if only one is used digitally: https://smglobalshop.com/products/pre-order-suho-the-1st-mini-album-self-portrait Better to have one link to the record label's site than two links to stores. Additionally, this source states that there are two covers and it claims to have an editorial staff, so could be used as a reliable source: https://thehoneypop.com/2020/03/30/suho-releases-his-first-solo-album-masterpiece-self-portrait/ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, thanks for collaborating with me to make this article better. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate you trying to find sources and/or limit the amount of affiliate links used. However, neither of those proves the cover displayed on the article is the cover used on digital outlets, whereas the Apple Music link is at least an indication the cover is used digitally. I have never seen a source say "this is the cover used on all digital outlets", so I don't think we're going to find one. The Billboard source is an editorial source talking about the covers, and it's there in the lead to source the fact there's multiple covers and what they show. I think it's fine as is and I'm ready to move on, as you said you were done too. Ss112 19:06, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, Then the solution would be to not make a claim about it being the digital cover and just say "one of two covers" and not use Apple Music. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:19, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cumulative Korean album sales[edit]

I am a little confused about the total Korean sales for Self-Portrait. Prior to the edit I just made, the article stated the album sales per Gaon 4/2020 chart was "290,338 (262,851 (CD) + 18,594 (SMC) )". But those two figures do not add up to 290,338, but 281,445. I just updated the total with the updated figure from the 5/2020 chart and am getting a total of 271,144 (CD) (5/2020 total) + 18,594 (4/2020 kit total) = 289,738. Am I missing something here? Was the previous figure of 290,338 simply an arithmetic error? Leesandeul (talk) 03:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]