Talk:Seth Rogen

Discussion

How does one pronounce "Rogen"? How can we write rogen fan mail?

The 'G' is hard, like "rogue in."

I have added a hint to this in the International Phonetic Alphabet. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 08:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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The bottom box says "Works of Judd Apatow" -- mistake, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.201.19 (talk) 17:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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The reference site for that line about him publicly saying he uses marijuana doesn't say anything about that... unless I missed something...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duck91 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Siblings

Does seth rogen have any siblings? Tigz54 (talk) 08:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Leading info

This article is well written, but it seems like there is WAY too much info in the leading section. There should be one or two initial paragraphs that offer a high level overview, then the biography and career trajectory. This has a HUGE amount of info before the bio section, and some redundancies, too. NickBurns 21:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• Write a draft, see if it works See me let go 02:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Character Names

Why is it that a lot of Seth Rogen's characters have three letter names (Ken, Ron, Cal, and Ben)? As an actor is he allowed to pick that sort of thing? Xanitross 02:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

He's a producer on Virgin and Knocked Up. If he wanted to have a character name that wasn't three letters long, he could change that. ChesterG (talk) 05:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Someone had inserted a sentence saying he was exposed to herpes at 13 - I removed that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.117.71.31 (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

boner

Did you know...

Jonah Hill is the same age as him. Not exactly, of course. Interesting read...it seems as though that Jonah is way younger than him.

Mr Congeniality (talk) 01:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

what does that even mean. he is the same age but not exactly? you either are the same age or you are not, there is no gray area here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.25.86.34 (talk) 02:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Jonah Hill is 2 years younger than Seth. But you're right, Jonah looks much younger than Seth. --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 14:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, there is a gray area. If two people are born in the same year we often simplify things by saying they're the same age.

That would be fine if the original poster wasn't on crack. Two years is hardly "the same age"

Definitely not when you're in your single digits, probably not as a teenager, and maybe not quite when you're in your early 20s, but beyond that, I'd say it's practically the same age. It's just a matter of perspective; all things are relative. If you're very young, I'm sure 2 years seems like a HUGE difference, but after say age 22 or 25 (at the oldest), it really doesn't make any difference to most folks. BTW, their respective articles now say that Rogen was born on April 15, 1982, and that Hill was born on December 20, 1983. If this is true, then Rogen is just a little more than a year and a half (1.5 yrs.) older than Hill, or 1 year, 8 months, 5 days if you want more precision.

P.S. In the sidebar it says Rogen was born in 1962 and is currently 46 years old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.102.174 (talk) 02:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

LOL---pretty funny but obviously vandalism. Hope Seth doesn't mind them making these jokes at his expense.

Marriage

It says he's married to Elizabeth Banks and sources two pages that have nothing to do with him being married to her. Plus, on HER page, it says she's married to Max Walberg... What's going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.118.107 (talk • contribs)

• Must have been vandalism. It's gone now. DP76764 (Talk) 17:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

picture

do you think the picture should be updated, because hes lost a notcable amount of weight and lost the curly hair —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.69.182 (talk) 14:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Since he's shapen up a bit, I must say he's cuter than I thought before —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.4.113 (talk) 13:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Like A Boss

It should say that he appeared in the music video for "Like A Boss" by "The Lonely Island". Forgive me if it is already on the page, but I could not find it anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.41.15 (talk) 06:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

7th High Times Stony Awards

Didn't Seth also win this? [1] for Knocked Up? I don't think this is listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DragonGuyver (talk • contribs) 05:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

What's the Crowdrise stuff about?

xD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.127.253 (talk) 22:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Drug Use

Why was the bit about him useing marijuana removed? Isn't he kind of well known of talking about it all the time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.83.45 (talk) 10:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, he is not only a user but a fervent advocate for the legalization of marijuana, and I think it is a very important piece of information to be added to his biography page. This tells more about him than most of the information. ~~MistaKay~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.108.151.18 (talk) 13:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

This is attributable to another wiki page. According to the page for Kevin Smith, Seth Rogen uses marijuana on set as an acting tool to enhance creativity etc. I think this certainly belongs on the page, if someone can find an off-site attribution. 174.116.53.88 (talk) 14:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Can anybody tell us how to pronounce this man? Help: Put the following after the name in the lead of the article: (pronounced /.../) and fill in the respective tokens of the international phonetic alphabet (IPA) behind the speaker! Thank You! --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 20:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand IPA notation, but it is pronounced "ro-gun", if that helps. – ukexpat (talk) 21:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that does not help me, because I do not exactly understand how You mean "ro-gun" to be pronounced. If You could compare the single syllables of Rogen`s last name to common other ones, that would be a great help. I would then put that into the IPA tokens for English. The pronunciation of Rogen`s first name can be checked on Wiktionary. That of his last name may be common throughout the English speaking world, but it is not outside that. At the same time, movies with Rogen are shown all over the world so that it would appear desirable to have, at least, a possibility to check the pronunciation of his full name, somewhere else. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 09:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I have added a hint to this in the International Phonetic Alphabet, in the article, on the basis of what has been given as the pronunciation, at the top of this discussion page. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 08:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Currently the article has /ˈroʊɡɪn/. However, it is /ˈroʊɡən/; see Seth Rogen Opening Statement (C-SPAN) (at 0:11). --Omnipaedista (talk) 04:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Origins

Out of interest, does anybody know any information as to his family's countries of origin? I accept they are Jewish but might they be German, Russian or from elsewhere? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 11:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Comment

This article is way too long and detailed for a so-far minor Hollywood figure. Someone should do a major edit, and pare this down quite a bit. For just one tiny example: It's pretty meaningless fact if his favorite music is by Led Zeppelin and Wu-Tang Clan (it would be meaningless if ANYONE happened to like them). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.237.192 (talk) 00:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Preacher - AMC Pilot being developed by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg

Here are the sources. Source 1 and Source 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.5.128 (talk) 01:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Lead image

The current lead image is at a very awkward position. In my opinion, it should be changed. Anyone agree?----Gourami Watcher (talk) 03:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I agree, so I changed the photo. --Distelfinck (talk) 23:44, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Source for middle name

"Aaron" was added as his middle name, with a Howard Stern interview as a reference. But the interview is very long, and the reference doesn't say at which mark his middle name is being said. User:Guat6 added it, so he could probably help in this task. --Distelfinck (talk) 14:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

I still haven't listened to the interview, but I looked for reports of the alleged "Aaron" middle name, and couldn't find any. Also, the name of Rogen's role in The Interview (2014 film) is "Aaron", so it's probably all a mistunderstanding. I'm being bold and revert. --Distelfinck (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Howard Stern was quizzing James Franco and Seth Rogen. Howard asked Franco if he knew what Seth's middle name was, and Franco said it's Aaron (the same name as Rogen's character in The Interview. Fast forward to around 41:32. --Guat6 (talk) 23:16, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it has to be right. See this. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:57, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Comedian

There would seem to be sufficient information in the article to support calling him a comedian in the lead. He is part of project comedy, the second sentence of the article talks about his comedic achievements, and the second paragraph talks about his comedy partner. At least one of the sources (Ref 10 http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/seth-rogen--is-it-a-producer-a-writer-an-actor-no-its-superseth-2177863.html) talks about his comedy career. But of course, what does it mean to be a comedian, anyway. meamemg (talk) 02:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

It means stand-up comedian. Acting in and/or writing comedy films does not make you a comedian by profession. It makes you an actor and/or a screenwriter. In an encyclopedia we should reserve the occupation comedian for those who are doing stand-up comedy acts. - Gothicfilm (talk) 05:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure why we would expect reader's to assume that. Comedian defines itself as "a person who seeks to entertain an audience, primarily by making them laugh. This might be through jokes or amusing situations, or acting a fool, as in slapstick, or employing prop comedy. A comedian who addresses an audience directly is called a stand-up comic." This would suggest that a stand up is but one type of comedian, and [[stand-up comedy] says that those who do stand up are called "comics" rather than an unqualified "comedian". meamemg (talk) 06:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

What's the point of confusing actors who appear in comedy films with stand-up comedians? Is there really any danger that readers won't understand that Seth Rogen is known for appearing in comedies without "comedian" being listed among his occupations? Shouldn't that designation be reserved for those that are best described primarily as comedians? - Gothicfilm (talk) 07:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Do you think something such as describing him as a "comedic actor" would work. As far as I can tell all his major roles were comedic roles? meamemg (talk) 19:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

He's an actor, screenwriter, producer and director. There's no reason to add genres to his occupation in an encyclopedia. We don't call other actors "dramatic actors" in the lead or infobox of their articles. That would be unneeded clutter, and it should be avoided. Those interested in what genre a person is known for can read beyond the lead sentence. - Gothicfilm (talk) 03:16, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok. I've reverted the article back to your last edit. meamemg (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Comedian?

So, Seth Rogen isn't a comedian now. That's weird because the definition of a comedian is an entertainer whose act is designed to make people laugh. He started out has a stand-up comedian. Maybe, comedy is subjectivr to you guys. I don't know and the sam thing with Trey Parker and Matt Stone. A comedian doesn't have to be someone who does stand-up comedy. Maybe you should call these guys satirists, I don't know. (Atomic Meltdown (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC))

The primary definition of "comedian" is:

An entertainer who performs in a humorous manner, especially by telling jokes.

As said in the discussion above, acting in and/or writing comedy films does not make you a comedian by profession. It makes you an actor and/or a screenwriter. A screenwriter of comedy films does more than tells jokes - he tells feature-length structured stories. Which brings up the other problem you're introducing - why are you changing "screenwriter" to "writer"? You're changing one occupation he's firmly established in and adding another he's not, except for some early activity as a teenager which is covered by the opening paragraph. In an encyclopedia we should reserve the occupation comedian for those who are doing stand-up comedy acts. There is no point in confusing actors who appear in comedy films with stand-up comedians. - Gothicfilm (talk) 23:40, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Well what about satirist, are you going to revert that just because you have a different view of comedy.(Atomic Meltdown (talk) 23:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC))

I don't know what article, if any, you're talking about. I see you've only been here for four months. The lead and infobox have a specific purpose. Adding in genres to the occupation listing in bio articles is not one of them. - Gothicfilm (talk) 00:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about right. Many users have told me that Biography is a reliable source and it is used on other articles. Please do your research on comedians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atomic Meltdown (talk • contribs) 00:25, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I see you are now engaged in an WP:edit war, reverting three articles without Wikipedia:Consensus. I also just pointed out how changing "screenwriter" to "writer" is another problem. You need to follow WP:BRD or you are going to get yourself blocked from editing. - Gothicfilm (talk) 00:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Screenwriter fills in the same area of writing like voice acting with acting and what Wikipedia: Consensus are you getting at, no user has seem to agreed with expect one but what about the others. I've given references that are reliable and states that do this. (Atomic Meltdown (talk) 00:48, 9 January 2015 (UTC))

Canadian-American?

Rogen stated that his father is American so he has American citizenship too. ([[2]]). Since he has double citizenship and resides in the US, is it correct to describe him as simply Canadian? Aquila89 (talk) 16:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

From same article "I definitely associate with being Canadian much more than being American." FWIW. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:03, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Still, his double citizenship should at least be mentioned. Aquila89 (talk) 18:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

He's living in America and has American citizenship, that would make him an American. So he is both Canadian and American. Due to his upbringing in Canada, and current residing in America, I would say he's more of a Canadian American than American Canadian. As the upbringing of Rogen himself seems more important than the American background of his father. --Distelfinck (talk) 20:36, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Let’s do the same procedure wiki does with so many other Canadian dual citizens such as Alanis Morissette, Celine Dion, Michael Bublé, Justin Bieber, Drake, William Shatner, Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds, Barry Pepper, and Paul Anka the country that they were born grew up in would be in the lead if this was a case like Anna Paquin who grew up in two countries than you put the two citizenship in the lead but it isn’t that Seth Rogen was born grew up in Canada so just Canadian belongs in the lead if American is in the lead than all those other wiki articles would have to half their respective dual citizenship in the lead which is just ridiculous let’s just try and bring consistency to wiki articles Black roses124 (talk) 17:28, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

his dual citizenship in info box should remain unchanged only the lead would change Black roses124 (talk) 17:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Nationality in lead per MOS:OPENPARABIO says give "Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable". The article shows he had a notable career in both the US and Canada so the intro should clearly state that and call him "Canadian and American xxx" without the ambiguous hyphenated construction that is also an ethnicity description and doesn't make clear he is notable for activities in both countries. The key issue for the lead is not his dual nationality but where he had his notable activities. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:31, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

sorry but Justin Bieber and Drake have had similar impacts if not bigger impacts/activities in the US, both American citizens and both only have Canadian in the lead and as far as I can tell, most reliable sources describe him as Canadian. It just seems to me that putting Canadian in the lead makes the most sense Black roses124 (talk) 23:53, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Also side note don’t know if this helps but Seth Rogen has described himself as Canadian in some interviews. For example this interview he talks about being proud “Schitts Creek” is a Canadian show winning Emmy’s. https://youtube.com/watch?v=esb6o-Kf0vo at around 1:27 he says “I’m a Canadian”. To me it just seems like putting Canadian in the lead is the best course of action. Black roses124 (talk) 00:12, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

A better example illustrating what I mean is Charlize Theron and how that article handled this. Also the discussion in the talk page (see archives) for that article is illuminating. Key point for nationality context in intro is more location of notable work was done and nationality of person at the time enters in to that. For dual nationals working as an American in the US and as a Canadian in Canada is fairly significant. Possibly those other article you mentioned should be changed. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Also nationality isn't like other personal identity issues where we put what the person says as primary. Nationality and citizenship are legal issues and matters of fact, not personal identity defined by what a person thinks of themselves. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:31, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Hmmmm VERY VERY interesting I definitely see what you mean and I agree with the personal identity thing that’s why I made it a side note and I also didn’t know if it even helped my case to begin with. Back to the main thing I hope what happened to Charlize Theron’s talk page (8 years of discussing without coming to consensus) doesn’t happen here I agree with the hyphen that has ethnicity connotations. Now I’m thinking maybe some sort of consensus happened with a Canadian-American article which is why so many Canadian dual citizen articles just have Canadian in the lead (I don’t really know just speculating) just odd how so many articles just have Canadian and really only few have x-American. Right now I’m thinking let’s just do Canadian to make it consistent with the majority of articles and go to a talk page of an article that has more exposure such as Justin Bieber’s or Drake’s or some other big dual citizen Canadians talk page and have this important interesting discussion there because I’m sure those talk pages would have higher a chance of exposure and variety of people giving opinions which what we should want in healthy discourse rather than just me and you here. In my experience Drake’s talk page has replies fast and a lot of different people reply so maybe do his or someone else because I’m gonna be honest I don’t really know what to do. Black roses124 (talk) 01:53, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Bieber doesn't have American citizenship and is residing and working in the US basically on a work visa. He still has a Canadian residence too. Calling him Canadian only based on his notability and history is appropriate in my opinion. Drake is more interesting as a dual national at birth like Rogen. Reading his article his ties to Canada are much stronger then Rogen's. Drake's article can go either way but consensus there seems to be stick with Canadian. Rogen seems to have done most of his work as an American and his Canadian work ties are less then either - basically he is more American than Canadian in emphasis but has notable work in both locations and as both. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

well to be fair a lot of his work has been shot in America not by his choice I remember I saw an interview of him and Evan Goldberg they talked about how a lot of their movies were supposed to be shot in Vancouver but how Hollywood works they had to shoot in America. But now with their notoriety they can maybe shoot in Canada more, so the comment that his work is manly in America might become dated after a couple movies. So for full disclosure he wanted to work in Canada but couldn’t, also I’m gonna be honest I don’t really know what to do here. I’m more coming from a side of let’s just put Canadian because most reliable media article's just call him Canadian and majority of other Canadian articles just have that in the lead as well, this one being the only one that has Canadian and American from what I can tell, would be a little strange. Black roses124 (talk) 03:54, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Needs something about his production company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Pictures --47.188.42.45 (talk) 00:20, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Start of career

When career is stated here, does it count as professional career? His professional career started with Freaks and Geeks around 1999.2605:6000:1526:450B:957F:50FE:2A56:A36E (talk) 23:23, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes. I don't see why we'd count a comedy workshop at the age of 12 as part of someone's comedy "career." The infobox is intended to be professional career, not the age at which they started telling jokes. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

For other celebrities, it says that it started as soon as they started performing. What should be done for that?2605:6000:1526:450B:957F:50FE:2A56:A36E (talk) 23:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Performing professionally is not the same as performing. Nearly every source I've reviewed cites Freaks and Geeks as being his first role (e.g. [3]). Do you have a source that says he started his career earlier? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Since numerous articles are saying he started earning at the age of 16, can we at least say he started around 1998?2605:6000:1526:450B:957F:50FE:2A56:A36E (talk) 23:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

We're not going to try to extrapolate when filming began or he got his first paycheck; sources say his career began with Freaks and Geeks, which was released in 1999. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 03:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2022

Update

Add	External Links: Home goods designed by Seth Rogen. Houseplant website

45.3.234.214 (talk) 17:38, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Unnecessary promotion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:46, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Appeared in the 2017 Leonard Cohen tribute.

In November 2017, the one year anniversary of the death of Leonard Cohen, a musical tribute played in Montreal organized by his son, Adam Cohen. In amongst Sting, Elvis Costello, Phillip Glass, and k.d. lang, Believe it or not, Seth Rogen contributed by speaking a Cohen song, "Field Commander Cohen". He is listed in the "Tower of Song: A Memorial Tribute to Leonard Cohen" article on here Wikipedia.

Sources

• Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC): "Leonard Cohen fans come together for star-studded tribute concert: A year after his death, fans celebrate beloved artist with night of covers in his hometown" - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/tower-of-song-concert-blog-1.4387331
• Montreal Gazette: "Seth Rogen, Coeur de Pirate, Courtney Love join Leonard Cohen tribute at Bell Centre: Tower of Song: A Memorial Tribute to Leonard Cohen will take place at the Bell Centre on November 6." - https://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/music/seth-rogen-coeur-de-pirate-courtney-love-join-leonard-cohen-tribute-at-bell-centre/
• I am sorry that I cannot find a video clip of his performance to really nail it down.

Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 06:48, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Dual nationality in lead

Should his dual nationality be mentioned in the lead (I.e. Canadian-American) 2600:100C:A202:5967:5896:78A9:6EFA:314D (talk) 23:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)