Talk:Sewage discharge in the United Kingdom

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A fact from Sewage discharge in the United Kingdom appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 February 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Southern Water was fined £90 million for deliberately dumping sewage into the sea?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sewage dumping in the United Kingdom.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 02:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that UK water companies dumped raw sewage into rivers and the sea over 300,000 times in both 2021 and 2022?~~ Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/04/thames-water-fined-33m-for-pumping-sewage-into-rivers
- ALT1: ... that Thames Water was fined £3.4m for sewage dumping? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/04/thames-water-fined-33m-for-pumping-sewage-into-rivers
- ALT2: ... that Southern Water was fined £90m for deliberately dumping sewage into the sea? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57777935
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/David Bowie Narrates Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf

Created by Arcahaeoindris (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 7 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sewage dumping in the United Kingdom; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Whilst this article is technically just long enough (1544 B of readable prose), I consider it still a stub. And we don't run stubs on DYK. You'd need to expand the article and give it some structure (e.g. headings and a lead). Schwede 66 23:00, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Schwede66: done :) plus added an ALT2. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 23:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral: - I'm concerned about the word "dumping", both in the text and the article title. Yes, when it's deliberately done, then it's dumping. But it's a loaded term in the context of an overflow during a storm event. The Guardian, for example, use "discharge", which I suggest is more neutral. For that reason, I've struck ALT0.
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - no; please write "In 2022, a proposed House of Lords amendment to the Environment Bill would have forced water companies" in your own words

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: please address the issues as outlined above; I prefer ALT2 Schwede 66 08:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - done :) Arcahaeoindris (talk) 19:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My preference is for ALT2. Schwede 66 22:35, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Role of the EU?[edit]

Glad to see this article here, since this topic is so much the focus of national discussion here in the UK. What I know about this topic is only from my own memory, but didn't the European Union mandate water quality monitoring at Britain's coasts? Over my adult life, I think there has been an increase in water quality at beaches, then a recent decrease, and this article would be extra informative for me if it gave some historical context for the changes in sewage discharge over the past few decades. Or maybe my memory is wrong, in which case knowing what authorities collected information about water quality, and what the typical ratings were, would be good for me to know. MartinPoulter (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]