Talk:Shay Given

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DateProcessResult
December 30, 2008Good article nomineeListed

Opening paragraph[edit]

Im sorry but he is the best goalkeeper in the league,—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diontheace (talk • contribs) 21:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

well thanks for that, on wikipedia personal opinions are all we are after obviously......................................... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.227.18 (talk) 06:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

you should be sorry, he's not that great!! 194.221.133.211 (talk) 08:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not that great, for years he single handedly kept Newcastle up, as soon as they let him go they went down. Definitely one of the top 3 goal keepers in the EPL.

- Re his name: Does he really have the same name twice (Seamus and James)? BBO (talk) 09:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

International career[edit]

anyone can help to update his international career with the irish national team? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaiver0510 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 07:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I think I've addressed all of the issued raised above, thanks for taking the time to review the article! Let me know if the sentences which needed rewriting still don't make sense, I wasn't entirely clear as to which bits were confusing. Best, – Toon(talk) 21:53, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Profile[edit]

Source number 5: there's the profile of Coloccini!! --Exorcist90 (talk) 18:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Newcastle caps[edit]

In the table there are 465 Newcastle caps instead 461! ???

Yes, there was a mistake. Now it's ok. --Exorcist90 (talk) 18:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

France 1-1 Ireland[edit]

Sorry but i really don't think that sentence has much relevance in the International Career section. I'll leave it there for now but unless somebody can convince me otherwise, i would suggest it be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Docklanders (talk • contribs) 17:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC) aston villa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.233.123 (talk) 19:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Retirement[edit]

Given has not officially announced his retirement from International football as of October 2013, he's still available for selection as stated here Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 11:01, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That article is 9 months old. In this article from this month (October 2013) http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/given-seeks-january-switch-to-escape-frustrating-limbo-29636260.html, Given refers to his retirement himself. I don't know how much more official a source can get than that.

"ACCEPTS

At 37, he accepts that there'll be no more caps, but he keeps a close eye on his former team-mates: "I started as a fan and I'm back to being a fan again.""

He is retired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.149.173 (talk) 11:09, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at Number57's comment at Shay Given.. he could be still called up for Ireland. JMHamo (talk) 11:18, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Gary Doherty, Martin Rowlands and Clinton Morrison could still be called up too. You are being completely irrational. The guy says he is retired and that he won't get capped again and that still isn't enough for you. He hasn't played a first team game in over 14 months and he will be 38 years old by the time the next qualifiers start but that also isn't enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.149.173 (talk) 11:21, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That is your opinion, not fact. JMHamo (talk) 11:25, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shay Given says he is retired. A source from this month from a reputable news source as well as the footballer in question confirms this. And you are talking about facts.

And right now, you are also edit warring and removing sourced edits on another footballer's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.149.173 (talk) 11:28, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Height in infobox[edit]

I propose switching Shay Given's height in the infobox to metres first:

  • It would be consistent with the majority of Aston Villa FC player profiles on Wikipedia and with the usage of Premier League.
  • Ireland uses the metric system and (Shay Given is from Ireland.)

Please indicate if you agree with this change. Michael Glass (talk) 19:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Changed as proposed. Michael Glass (talk) 04:12, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Different heights in citations[edit]

The same as with Paddy McNair different reliable sources give different height for this player. So like for Paddy McNair I will remove the height until we agree which is most likely. PL gives 1.83 meters (6' 0") and PFA gives 6' 1" (1.85 m). I believe the PFA is more likely as it is the official organisation representing professional players in England. Speccy4Eyes (talk) 22:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aston Villa gives his height as 6ft 1in (185cm) [1] and the Irish Republic team gives 185cm, [2] so 185cm or 1.85m seems to be the way to go. As the player is Irish, let's go with the height used in his national team and use that as the citation. Michael Glass (talk) 23:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
While he's playing for an English team we should use the PFA and/or AVFC website I think as they'll be the most up to date. As you are asking to follow WP:UNITS for this player will you support doing the same for English/Scots/Welsh/NI players too please? Speccy4Eyes (talk) 21:53, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Shay Given is 38 years old, so I don't think we have to worry about his height changing. He is listed in both teams so I think it's fair enough to go for his national team. As for changing UK profiles from metric to imperial first, forget it! You already know what a frosty reception that gets. Michael Glass (talk) 00:55, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The question is will you support the obeying of WP:UNITS not whether you think anyone else will. Will you? If not what good reason can you give that trumps it. Speccy4Eyes (talk) 19:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The question is whether or not the rules for UK articles apply to players from the Irish Republic. As Shay Given comes from the irish Republic and plays for the national team I don't think there is any reason for not following the usage of the Irish Republic. For the umpteenth time, the irish Republic is not part of the UK. Michael Glass (talk) 03:23, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Middlesbrough transfer[edit]

Although Given is poised to join Middlesbrough, there has been no official announcements yet, please wait until then before adding Middlesbrough as a current club. Thanks TeaLover1996 (talk) 01:39, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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'widely regarded as one of the best premier league goalkeepers'[edit]

truly stunning sources on that one 81.97.69.100 (talk) 00:23, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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