Talk:She-Hulk

Naming

Several times during this entry She-Hulk is referred to as "the She-Hulk", would it be ok if I changed this just to "She-Hulk" - I'm pretty sure her name doesn't have a "the" prefix. Scarlettspiderg 21:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Relationships

This section is trending towards becoming a long, boring, and prurient catalogue of each of Jennifer Walters' and the She-Hulk's sexual encounters. This doesn't seem to me to be a necessary or proper approach to follow. The character has relationships with men, and she has had sex; while the entry should (I suppose) acknowlege this, it doesn't need to describe every instance in which it occurred.

And although the Wyatt relationship does need to be acknowledged, does the following paragraph add anything to the entry?

• In Fantastic Four 278, She-Hulk literally swept Wyatt off his feet for a passionate kiss. The two lovers then disappeared for a few pages, and when they emerged later that same evening, She-Hulk was wearing different clothes.

I'm inclined to think that it doesn't.--Galliaz 00:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Agree. CovenantD 00:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hehe and i was just about to suggest ADDING to this section her creepy relationship with reformed-Juggernaut over in one of the X-Books WookMuff 01:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

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Please remember, Wikipedia is not a fan site

Although pages like this are of course maintained by fans, the information provided should be objectively-derived and supportable. This article is loaded with subjective, speculative commentaries (at least half of the Relationships section, for instance). I removed some uncited (and likely uncitable) remarks about the alleged unpopularity of costumes she briefly wore twenty years ago. I also removed a reference under the Powers section referring to her "capacity for love and understanding" as her greatest super-power. 69.180.14.65 22:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

• Agreed. I've added a lot of information on this site, but a lot of the tangents keep coming back, regardless of efforts to control them, such as additional mentions of other characters that regularly break the fouth wall. --Toquinha 07:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

• • I wholeheartedly agree, too. The "Relationships" section was choked (to near-incoherence) by the circular discussion of the Comics Code, in addition to being riddled with problematic assumptions regarding the character's sexuality and romantic motivations.--Galliaz 01:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Tangents

The article has been taking a lot of tangents as of late, especially when talking about "breaking the fourth wall" and "skills", as they start talking about other characters in a lot more detail. Is this the way we want the article to be going?--Toquinha 15:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Toquinha, I agree 100%. Also: while the article should address the fact that the She Hulk is a vibrant woman whom men find attractive (she clearly engages in and enjoys sex in Dan Slott's recent series), the discussion of her sexuality is totally unsatisfactory as it now stands.--Galliaz 01:17, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Toquina: Thanks for the nice editing job!--Galliaz 13:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

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Is this section meant to be serious?

She-Hulk spent some time dating Luke Cage, the African-American superhero also known as Power Man. 
The characters were open-minded enough not to let their respective skin colors interfere 
in their mutual attraction and romantic interest.

She-Hulk doesn't have much choice than to go beyond skin color, anyway. "It's not easy being green", you know... 惑乱 分からん 14:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

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I think the discussion of whether She-Hulk's first meeting with Spider-Man (in Spidey Super Stories) was in the core Marvel Universe or in some alternate reality is entirely too esoteric. Further, unless Marvel Comics has explicitly stated that Spidey Super Stories took place on an alternate world, there's no way to objectively verify that point of view. Either way, the discussion should be the subject of some sort of link to a Spidey Super Stories page, and should not take up space on the She-Hulk page, where this discussion is a distracting tangent. Just my two cents. Shfan001 (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Images

Instead of the She-Hulk images, all i see is "Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/en/a/af/Shehulk01.jpg': No such file or directory." in their respective places. Is this just me or what? Ace Class Shadow 06:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Just you it seems, sorry.Jayunderscorezero 18:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Death

She-Hulk doesn't appear on the Comic_book_death page, even though she's died twice now (I think - she said so in court once). I don't have issue references, though; does anyone here have the library to fill in that information? Wyvern 02:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Sensational She-Hulk 52-54. I think. Scarlettspiderg 21:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I just assumed that she was talking about 'dying' in one of the major crossovers. Doesn't she 'die' in the Infinity Gauntlet crossover? Lots of characters did. She probably dies in SS-H too, but I wouldn't know.Jayunderscorezero 02:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanos wiped out half of existance during Infinity Gauntlet - but I'm pretty sure She-Hulk survived. However, during Marvel Universe:The End all of existance is wiped out (but I don't think its 616).Scarlettspiderg 17:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Was Shulkie part of the gathering of heroes that attacked Thanos and were killed, only to be ressurected later? That was a separate incident from Thanos' wiping out half of existence. -- Pennyforth 11:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

That's right. Thanos killed her along with Namor. Elefuntboy 14:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Hero

Should She-Hulk be listed as in the category of Category:Marvel Comics anti-heroes? I've left it there because it is true that in her more berserker moments she can cause trouble, but I wonder if as a whole she should be listed here...--Tuberculosisness 17:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The entire category is up for deletion. CovenantD 17:51, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Transforming into Jen Walters

Is there a comment in the article about her capability of changing back into Jen Walters? Her Graphic Novel by Byrne had her losing that option, but the first volume of the current series retcons it a bit (I do not remember the exact way). Luis Dantas 17:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, while there isn't (and probably a need for) a seperate section, there are frequent comments about her regained ability to transform and the personality differences in each form, and the recent series retcon in regards to the "real" cause for the mode-lock in the Graphic Novel. Cyckath 02:45, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

She-Hulk and Juggernaut

Is it true she slept with him? Didn't she later say she didn't remember or it was due to her imbalances by spending to much time as She-Hulk? Wasn't it ever retcon or did I read wrong? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seekquaze (talk • contribs) 04:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

• Yes, she was his lawyer during the "Trial of the Juggernaut" arc in Uncanny X-Men, and slept with him in issue #435. Whether she still remembers it or not I have no idea, because I don't currently read She-Hulk.

Additionally, I find it a tad stupid that in the "Relationships" section, there's mention of Wolverine saying he didn't want Juggernaut's Sloppy Seconds near the end of the article, but absolutely no mention of her ever sleeping with Juggernaut in the body of the article, because apparently the project guidelines don't want editors listing off every sexual encounter she's ever had. It's a little dumb to leave this relationship out, yet later reference back to it, imo.

It's just a tad confusing is all.

The primary point to be made is that what's not confusing at all is that the character has denied sleeping with Juggernaut in the same issue in which she makes the pass at Wolverine. What's ironic is that Dan Slott, the writer of the current series, is 'commenting' on what we're doing here by having the She-Hulk state: "I didn't sleep with Juggernaut! Why does everyone keep saying that!": he's making light of the fact that a portion of the fanbase is taken with the did-she-or-didn't she aspect of this particular question. Finally, based upon the arguments I've made here, even if it turns out that she actually slept with Juggernaut, I don't think that the information is worthy of inclusion in the entry.--Galliaz 09:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Dude, you're talking in circles here... and it's not making things any less confusing.

All Jen's other 1 night stands and whether they should be listed here or not aside, in this particular case, it is still confusing to make absolutely no mention of this particular event, whether it happened or not, within the body of the article, only to refer back to said event later on in said article, with no explanation as to why Wolverine (or anyone else, reader or character) would even have the impression she slept with the Juggernaut in the first place. I say either remove all mention of the Wolverine encounter, or put in a mention of the Juggernaut encounter, because like it or not, the two encounters have relevance to one another, and to mention one while completely ignoring the other is, as was stated, confusing. It's like only show someone who has no knowledge of either encounter, and came here to learn about She-Hulk, half the picture.

And as to the question of did she or didn't she, there doesn't seem to be much "did she or didn't she" about it. Fact is, in Uncanny X-Men, Juggernaut and She-Hulk, after heavy amounts of implicating dialogue, are shown together, nude (under a blanket of course), in bed, with a look of "post-activity" euphoria on their faces, and the bedposts and surrounding area smashed to smithereens, presumably due to what went on in the hours before we jumped to this planel. So, one is lead to believe they either slept together, or had one heck of a rousing nude battle,before deciding to make amends and cuddle with one another. Given that Juggernaut was at the time, and still is, no longer a villain, and even if he were, there would be seemingly no reason for either of them to do battle in teh buff, which seems the more likely occurance to you?

I don't know if Jen simply doesn't remember sleeping with Cain for one reason or another, or if she was simply lying to Wolverine to save face, but from the omnipotent point of view of a reader, it is clear that she did, and I believe that if the pass at Wolverine, and the resulting snyde comments on the matter warrant mentioning, than the naked romp with Juggernaut, on which said comments are based, certainly does as well. The only confusion on this matter, comes from Avengers/She-Hulk readers, who wouldn't have reason to or have never read Uncanny X-Men in the first place, and honestly didn't know that she had slept with him. To make no mention of the Uncanny encounter with Cain, and flat out ignore it, just serves to add to that confusion.

The entry includes Wolverine's dialogue saying that she slept with Juggernaut, and She-Hulk clearly saying that she didn't: I don't see any room for confusion. Finally, I don't agree with your assertion that the comics reader has any kind of ominpotent point of view, especially given how writers have frequently resorted to retcons, false memories, and similarly convenient "plot-devices" in order to explain away story elements that a previous author might have put in place. The title's present writer, Dan Slott, knows that many of his readers are aware of this, and is pretty much toying with us on this particular point.--Galliaz 10:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

The entry does not include Wolverine saying she slept with Juggernaut, merely him implying she did, with absolutely no indication of where he would have gotten that impression, and why he would be making that implication. To someone who reads this article without prior knowledge of her encouter with Juggernaut, it is confusing, because you're removing a piece of the story from the picture, that piece being the fact that she did sleep with Juggernaut, and removing that piece gives the average uninformed wikipedia reader the wrong impression. Leaving Cain out of the picture, and jumping straight to Wolverine's comment and She-Hulk's denial, only tells half the story, and gives the opposite impression to that uninformed reader, that impression being: she didn't sleep with him, and Logan is full of crap, when in fact, the reader (who in this case, yes, has an omnipotent point of view on the matter, because he/she can look in on her private life in Uncanny X-Men, something Wolverine, or any other Marvel character couldn't/can't do) knows that Jen is the one who isn't telling the truth in her encounter with Wolverine.

She did sleep with Juggernaut, she's just not admitting to it. The only thing we as readers don't know, is why she's not admitting to it. Maybe she honestly doesn't remember, maybe she's just embarassed and in denial, maybe it's an attempted retcon, but jumping straight to her denial to Wolverine, without mentioning the fact that she actually was shown, on panel, in bed with Cain, gives the wrong impression.

PS. I wish to god someone else would chime in here. I'd love to get a third opinion on this.

She-Hulk #17 is ambiguous. You can either read it as implying a retcon or simply as She-Hulk's denial. Since there is a comic that shows Juggernaut/She-Hulk in bed together, I would keep the info about them having slept together for now, unless a more obvious and explicit retcon takes place in the future. -- Jayunderscorezero 12:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

For the record, there's been a more explicit statement as to whether or not she has slept with Juggernaut--She-Hulk #19, pages 14 and 15, where it's established in court that, despite her denials, she did. Rdfox 76 01:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I didn't read it as explicit, rather than 'documented' in a Marvel comic. She continued to vehemently deny it, and has consistently been perplexed and/or frustrated whenever anyone has brought it up. It remains ambiguous and could just as easily 'explained', for example by stating that it was CopyCat, much like the latter mimicked Titania, or just tie into Bendis' skrull plot. Dave 21:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I read it the same way as Dave did: Jennifer copped to being way less inhibited as the She-Hulk, and to having had a lot more sexual partners as the She-Hulk than Jennifer Walters ever would, but, even when presented with the image from the Marvel comic, she still actively and vehemently denied having slept with Juggernaut.--Galliaz 21:41, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

The issue of whether She-Hulk slept with Juggernaut was eventually cleared up by a story that said a She-Hulk from an alternate universe did the deed. The unanswered question, however, was whether the "real" She-Hulk or the "alternate" She-Hulk represented Juggernaut in court right before the deed. If it was the alternate, then wouldn't the "real" Jennifer Walters have noticed the imposter representing Juggernaut during a trial that certainly would have generated widespread media coverage? That's like Johnny Cochran not noticing that someone else was posing as him during the O.J. Simpson trial. But alternate-universe stories always have their complications. Shfan001 (talk) 22:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Powers

The powers section may benifit from further detailing She-Hulks strength level in regards to her emotional state. While the article does state that her strength increases with fear, "However, she does not possess the rage-enhanced level of strength the Hulk does." This statment should be clarified and expanded. As it currently reads, it seems to state that She-Hulk's strength does not increase with anger; however, my understanding, depicted in the Avengers Disassembled storyline was that when enrage she does gain mass and strength, ripping Vision and two and running amok beating the other Avengers; and rage was the intial catalyst for her metamorphsis as the Savage She-Hulk. (I understand that anything in the Disassemble storyline could be written off as Scarlet Witch hijinx; however, this instance, if not showing that She-Hulk does gain strength and mass when enrage, should at least merit the removal of the line quoted earlier.) If the the quote above is meant to be interpreted that She-Hulk's uppermost strength level does not reach the same uppermost level of her cousin, then the statement needs to be clarified. In short She-Hulk's power section about strenght needs to either include anger/rage, and/or needs to clarify her uppermost limits in contrast to the Hulk's. 66.109.248.114 23:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Publication History

Prior to my edit of this date, the publication history started on the one-year anniversary of the character - which seemed unusual. I found text in older versions of the page which used to be the 1st paragraph of the section and restored it. More details regarding exact dates available on request. Fitfatfighter 05:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Although there's a criticism that this article is too long, I favor the details in the publication section about She-Hulk's many guest appearances. There is a pragmatic reason for extensively covering her guest appearances: Guest appearances and team appearances are the bulk of She-Hulk's history. She has been a part of the Marvel Universe for almost 30 years, but has had her own solo books for only about 11. Therefore, supporting-role appearances in the Avengers, Fantastic Four, Incredible Hulk, Fantastic Force, Heroes for Hire, Doc Samson, Howard the Duck, Defenders, Secret Wars, Civil War and other comics are the overwhelming majority of She-Hulk stories in print. Unfortunately, however, such appearances have never been completely cataloged -- certainly not in Marvel-chronological order. Therefore, this page can provide a valuable service by pointing people toward Easter eggs. Nevertheless, some of the cataloging might eventually be done on separate subarticle pages if listings get much longer. Shfan001 (talk) 23:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Initiative cover

It's unclear to me why the entry should list that the She-Hulk appears on the cover to Avengers: The Initiative. I'm open to hearing a rationale/explanation, and look forward to a discussion of the material's importance.--Galliaz 23:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This seems to me to be a sensible approach: when She-Hulk does something of note in Avengers: Initiative, we can add a description of it to the entry. Otherwise, simply listing the cover appearance is superfluous.--Galliaz 22:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

She-Hulk v1 Pub. Dates

Looking in my own copies of this title, I see the dates are actually May 2004 for #01 and April 2005 for #12, not March 2004 to February 2005. I'm not going to edit this, because despite the evidence of my eyes, I still find the numbering of the "She-Hulk" titles a little odd. If anyone else feels this is a valid discrepancy, edit away I say. Pcgneurotic 14:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)pcgneurotic

US comic books have basically always featured cover dates that project about a couple months into the future (so that they stay in the shelves that much longer and have a better chance of being bought); I do not know if that is the reason for your doubts, however. Luis Dantas 02:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

If memory serves, traditionally, the cover date on comic books was when the newsstand sellers were supposed to pull the old issue off the stand and return it to the publisher as unsold. While there's virtually no places still selling comics that actually return unsold books for credit (specialty comic shops find it more profitable to just put any issues that don't sell in the first year or so in the bargain bin), the cover dates were never realigned with the actual ship dates, to avoid having two or three issues with the same cover date. Rdfox 76 03:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Gemini

I read in a She-Hulk letters page once that Jennifer's transition to a smart She-Hulk happened because Gemini (of the Zodiac)- probably the android one) helped merge her personas in an issue of the original series. I do not know this for a fact, and I find it odd that this isn't mentioned anywhere else. Anyone can comfirm or deny? -Wilfredo Martinez 17:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It was the android one created by Skorpio, yes; and it happened in the original "Savage She-Hulk" series - but it was basically a matter of resolving her anger and lack of control over the transformation; at the time the matter of merging personas was not mentioned, at least not explicitly. Luis Dantas 02:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Having gone and read the relevant issue... Gemini has nothing to do with personalities merging, although it might be easy to make the mistake because this is the same issue where Michael Morbius cures Jennifer of a fatal blood disease and gives her control over her transformations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.91.65 (talk) 14:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Barefoot thing

Folks, I'm gonna go out on a bit of a limb here and recommend that anyone who makes that same edit with the obsession with barefootedness be reverted and issued at least a uw-v2 warning; this person, under various names, has been putting said comments into the article on and off for at least a month now. I'm not sure if they're the same person who also seemed to have an obsession with superheroines being swimmers and nudists, too, but it wouldn't surprise me, as the writing style is similar. Rdfox 76 01:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

But it is relevant that the only time She-Hulk was not barefoot was during her encounter with Giant Sized Man-Thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devon Vice (talk • contribs) 01:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Fourth Wall

I think it would be worth mentioning that she-hulks VS system cards also break the fourth wall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.204.55 (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Artist/writer histories

Should there be a link to a separate, short article on the history of the writers and artists who have done She-Hulk stories? John Byrne and Dan Slott get mentioned a lot in the current main article, but there have been many other gifted writers and artists who have interpreted this character. However, listing them all in the main article would be very cumbersome, distracting and probably irritating to casual fans.Shfan001 (talk) 23:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary Material

As I was reading through the article, I came across the following statement in the "publication History" section:

[Perhaps someone could verify whether Avengers #233 was Byrne's very first She-Hulk art?]

I don't think this sentence would be considered very encyclopedic and should be considered for removal. However, I have chosen not to remove this as someone might just put it back in immediately.--Spaced35 (talk) 21:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Psychology

From the "skills" section--"first using psychology to distract him"--I have to say as an undergraduate psychology student I find this sentence abit ridculous. They should probably be more clear about how she distracted him as Psychology isn't some magical formula you can use to control peoples minds. I don't mean to sound pretencious but i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks that sentence sounds abit silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.227.228.91 (talk) 03:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, She-Hulk did stomp on Abomination's severe case of bad self-esteem, which gave her the few seconds necessary to sucker-punch him, but re-word it to something better if you wish. Dave (talk) 11:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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Done - as the header at the top suggests there just aren't enough references so it doesn't make it to a B but it is a good C. One problem is almost always going to be the homage/parody section because without proper references such sections are almost always going to be magnet for trivia and unsourced speculation. (Emperor (talk) 20:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC))

Breasts are offensive?

A recent edit-revert confused me. While it was indeed valid information (and, unlike the "barefoot" guy, not meant as fetish-fuel), why was my addition of (properly cited) information about She-Hulk's breasts removed, despite it (I had assumed) fitting in appropriately with the rest of the info about her other physical traits like strength, durability, etc.? It wasn't meant as some sort of "tittilation" aspect (even if making an alien fleet explode from surprise at seeing breasts is kinda awesome), but was plainly presented as a situation that occured in the comic. So why the removal? -- 74.232.131.46 (talk) 23:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Trimmer/Desktop/shehulk-bikini-pinup1.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollister4Mayor (talk • contribs) 02:37, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

You are right. She-Hulks breasts do fit appropriately. I would hate to see them removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devon Vice (talk • contribs) 01:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Serious or Silly

Is the She-Hulk comic a serious or a silly one? All my Marvel-related books imply it's serious, bu some internet sources imply it's silly. -Golem866 (talk) 22:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

She's supposed to be a kind free-spirited character with a big heart and a sense of humour. When written right she showcases both the absurdity and humane aspects of her world in a way almost no other (unrelatable catchy plattitude giggling incoherent aimless nihilism-gore-fest casual serial killer torturer, or Mussolini-quoting "cure trauma through torture" fundamentalist) non-Alan Davis Marvel character does, kind of like Astro City with jokes, so both, except replace silly with enjoyable. Dave (talk) 08:22, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Brigitte Nielsen film

In the "Film" sub-section of "In other media" there is an item that begins with this: "A live-action motion picture was planned in the late 1980s, with Carl Gottlieb as writer and Tamara Asseyev as producer." It goes on to say that Brigitte Nielsen had "pose[d] for photos dressed both as She-Hulk and...Jennifer Walters." This is illustrated by a photo of the actress in Hulk mode. However, it is unsourced, and a very sourced (to Comics Scene magazine) item under "Television" (my work I admit) has the character at that very time quite firmly attached to the third TV-movie sequel to The Incredible Hulk TV series. A year later a big-screen She-Hulk film was in the works (and a TV series deal was "dead"), written not by Gottlieb but Larry Cohen (also set to direct, and also sourced in that item). What isn't mentioned there is that the August 1991 issue of the same magazine had added Nielsen to Cohen's film, still no sign of Gottlieb (or Asseyev either, for that matter). If someone doesn't come up with a source for the "Film" item soon, I'll have to take it out on the grounds that those sources contradict it. As is, I have to go back in and rewrite to say that Nielsen was not connected until 1991. My apologies for that gaffe. --Tbrittreid (talk) 23:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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Regenerative healing factor

This is one of the abilities listed in the article. If her healing factor is so advanced that it is 'regenerative', how would this affect someone like Jennifer who has a very active sex life?

The reason I ask is: wouldn't a regenerative healing factor regrow a hymen? Asked the same query about X-23. Not sure if there are any other Marvel/DC fast-heal females this could apply to. Ranze (talk) 10:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Unless that's mentioned in the comics, (which I doubt) it would just be speculation, and has no place on Wikipedia.--In Donaldismo Veritas (talk) 23:10, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

She-Hulk #100?

Why is there no mention in this entry of Jen's being put on trial? Merleblue (talk) 19:16, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Benny Hill, father of Shulkie?

Is "The Marvel Comics Database" a backdoor house organ for Marvel? They seem to use Marvel's fiercely-defended IP rather freely and I don't see any disclaimer. Anyway, they cite that Benny Hill sketch mentioned in this article's Parodies section as the catalyst for the character's creation rather than just a tangental reference. If that's true it's more a part of her legitimate history. Asat (talk) 11:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Car troubles

The article is pretty enigmatic about the car troubles running gag. Could someone either explain it to me or flesh out the article to better explain it to a reader who isn't familiar with the character?

I just happened to look this article up tonight and don't watch it, so if you answer this could you please ping me in the reply? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 02:19, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

A new header image?

I would like to propose that we change the header image for the character from the current version to this one featuring a smiling She-Hulk holding scales of justice.

It was drawn by Greg Horn as a cover for Dan Slott's She-Hulk volume 2, #1, December 2005.

It is of great artistic quality, and in my opinion much better exemplifies what the character is about: A tongue in cheek sense of fun and decency, and action mixed with courtroom antics.

I hope that it will better serve to make more readers connect with and become interested in the character. David A (talk) 09:16, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

I think the current image is fine but I'm not opposed to the suggested image either. To me, it isn't so much of an improvement but more of a lateral movement.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:13, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything wrong with the current image in the infobox. Fortdj33 (talk) 13:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, I think that the old image is rather bland, whereas the suggested new version is far more expressive in a positive manner. David A (talk) 20:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Don't steal TV Tropes discussions!

Is it not allowed to think that their image is better? David A (talk) 20:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

I think the one currently in the article is better, because it shows the character unobstructed by any props, and the damage to the wall pertains to her powers. Nightscream (talk) 19:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I think it should be the original SH1 cover. [1] It shows she's a Marvel Comic character, that she's green and giant, and sometimes is normal sized, and that she comes from the 70s. It does leave out that she's been sexualized since then, which the other's hint at. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 21:12, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I support Nightscream rationale. Let's use the encyclopedic image here, and the cool fanservice image there, and we are all happy. Cambalachero (talk) 02:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I was unaware of other options. If the original SH1 cover is available, then I would prefer that one, per Peregrine's rationale. Can someone add all the available choices as a gallery to the top of this discussion? Nightscream (talk) 14:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with using the original She-Hulk cover, as the character has evolved greatly since then. She is currently featured as a well-adjusted extremely decent tongue-in-cheek character equally involved in heroic efforts and idealistic courtroom antics. Displaying her original barbaric incarnation would serve to be very misleading for new readers, and I would much prefer the current option to remain over the cover to her first appearance. David A (talk) 14:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

If you want a #1 issue to show her as a Marvel character, this one may be a better option. Cambalachero (talk) 14:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I am much more comfortable with that image. It is not her current incarnation, but it does display that she is a partially comedy-oriented character nowadays. David A (talk) 14:41, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Here is another option. David A (talk) 14:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, all of her covers are accessible from here. David A (talk) 14:53, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

The current image is better than all those options. Infact, David A's original suggestion is better than those. I also like @Peregrine Fisher:'s idea of using File:Shehulk1st.jpg.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

How about this image? Would that be more acceptable? David A (talk) 05:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

WP:CMOS#BOXIMAGE suggests to use the most "universally recognizable appearance of a character". In this case, I would assume that to be her purple and white one-piece or perhaps the torn white shirt from volume 1. So the pants in this image would throw that off, as would the black outfit in Cambalachero's suggestion.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:18, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

That said after going through her covers, I would say these are her best images in no particular order:

• Savage She-Hulk Vol 1 1
• She-Hulk Vol 1 1
• She-Hulk Vol 2 1
• She-Hulk Vol 2 7

--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Well, I am obviously fine with the second and third image. However, I still think that the original 1980 cover (the first image) is anachronistic, given her tremendous evolution as a character since then. David A (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

What about the fourth?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:39, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I don't have anything against it. It shows She-Hulk in both forms, in a somewhat humorous manner. She is an admirably kind and idealistic humorous character. I like images that showcase these characteristics. David A (talk) 18:38, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Anyone else? Thoughts on using She-Hulk Vol 2 7.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:45, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

After over a week of no objections I went ahead and changed the image. If you disagree feel free to revert and continue the discussion here.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I am fine with it. David A (talk) 03:41, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Article Passage Deserves Illustration/Image

Volume 2, #3 (#100), in which Stu Cicero, a law firm "researcher" asks Jen if she can "really do stuff like that." She somewhat wistfully replies "No. I can't" – however, the panel is drawn at a somewhat ambiguous angle that suggests She-Hulk may be looking "out" of the comic, at the reader. --I'm guessing that Fair Use would cover inclusion of this very panel. "At an ambiguous angle" is pretty vague and, I just feel that the entire passage seems sadly lacking without the actual illustration, or possibly a black & white version of it? Is Marvell's permission needed? She-Hulk, will you help us? Cuvtixo (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I'm thwarted by the article description of it being "the latest series". I can find https://www.comics.org/issue/259748/ and references to She-Hulk #3(100) "She-Hulk (Marvel, 2004 series) - 12 issue She-Hulk (Marvel, 2005 series) [this series] - 2 issues" my GoogleFu doesn't extend to comic books. Cuvtixo (talk) 19:42, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Image deletion nomination(s)

One or more images currently used in this article have been nominated for deletion as violations of the non-free content criteria (NFCC).

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Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

MCU Series

In the section for the Marvel Cinematic Universe version, it say that there was an attack by a Sakaaran scout ship, but there is no indication that it is an attack and later in the episode Bruce Banner explains that he believes they were there to deliver a message. 66.225.97.121 (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Jennifer's ideal form

Re: "Like her cousin Bruce, his counterpart, the Leader, Doc Samson and most other persons mutated by exposure to gamma radiation over the years, her mutated form was originally explained as being molded by her subconscious desire to look like the ideal woman."

I'd like to request a citation for this, please. 98.27.219.220 (talk) 22:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

I was not the one who added the information, but I vaguely recall reading something about it in the 1980s official Marvel Comics handbook. I may remember wrong though, so it would be appreciated if others can confirm please. David A (talk) 13:53, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

A more characteristic and distinctive image

Given that it has been around 40 years since Jennifer appeared in her "Savage She-Hulk" incarnation, and she is now by far best defined by her kind, funny, confident, and idealistic "Sensational She-Hulk" incarnation, which she has spent the by far greatest amount of time in, would it be acceptable to update her header image in this page accordingly? The following image looks much better, for example.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/File:She-Hulk_Vol_4_1_Hughes_Variant_Textless.jpg

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jennifer_Walters_(Earth-616)

David A (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

"She-Hulk/Temp" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address a potential problem with the redirect She-Hulk/Temp and it has been listed for discussion. Readers of this page are welcome to participate at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 11 § She-Hulk/Temp until a consensus is reached. TNstingray (talk) 15:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Problems with the fictional character biography section

Would somebody please be willing to greatly improve on the structure of She-Hulk's "Fictional character biography" section? It currently lacks lots of references, mixes together events in different storylines, such as "The Seach for She-Hulk" and "Avengers Disassembled", and is also missing several important key events.

Please see here for a better handled and more comprehensive structure in that particular regard: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jennifer_Walters_(Earth-616) David A (talk) 08:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)