Talk:Shia view of the Quran

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As a non-Muslim, coming to this Article, it is very confusing. At the beginning it says that Sunnis and Shia believe that the "text is identical" Is it or is it not actually identical? If you have a printed copy of the Quran from Shia and Sunni, are the actually identical? Then it talks about " alteration of Qur'an's text" This is very confusing. I think there need to be a more simple explanation. This article definitely gets into details without giving a good simple overview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.27.71.34 (talk) 16:05, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They are identical but the interpretation of the text differs. Oh, and Sunnis believe that Shias add ten more pages to the Quran so maybe it's that but idk. 88.246.76.171 (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fatimah[edit]

Sa.vakilian, please stop removing this, it is notable and under the corrects section. --Striver 06:39, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe in the existance of that book. But I don't understand what is the relation between Moshaf of Hazrat Fatimah and qur'an.--Sa.vakilian 18:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The relation is in the minds of some ignorant Sunnis. And that is notable. --Striver 18:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not even a Qur'an, but it's a Tafseer (Explanation) of the Qur'an. Armyrifle 15:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According Imam Jafar Sadigh there is no difference between Shia & Sunni Qur'an; regarding same Qur'an is published in Shia countries such as Iran and Iraq.

Resources[edit]

http://al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter8/4.html --Striver 21:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi guys, in entry of Shia perspective in this مقاله, it's lacks scientific and historical accuracy, and resources. Tnx. Sati-R (talk) 12:16, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Silly to claim al-islam origin of the information when reliable books are clearly the citations used for the information. Looks like shia editors brought this false assertion forward as a form of sectarian apologism. 49.195.57.150 (talk) 08:18, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense[edit]

All these articles on English Wikipedia are written and hardly worked on by the group of Wahhabis to prove how “unislamic” Shia Islam is. The amount of bending and stitches even in this article proves it. I will give two examples, this article lists “Shia scholars who somewhat believed in alterations of the Quran”, giving as an example Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulayni. al-Kulaynī in his al-Kafi included some ahadith that may allude to the belief in alternations, that said, it doesn’t mean that al-Kulaynī himself held such belief (he was a hadith compiler, not a narrator), and in Shia jurisprudence hadith books are not considered authentic in their entirety, Shias belief that if a hadith contradicts Holy Quran, then the hadith has to be rejected.

Second example given here is that of Muhammad Baqir Behbahani. Wikipedia says that Behbahani “wrote in al-Fawā'id al-ḥā'iriyy…”, the problem is that Behbahani never wrote Fawa'id al-madaniyya, it was written by Muhammad Amin al-Astarabadi. Behbahani wrote a book called al-Ijtihad wa l-akhbar as an answer to Astarabadi‘s work. In fact throughout his work, Usuli Behbahani criticises Akhbari Astarabadi belief in Quran alternation. Belief of Quran alternation is a hallmark of Akhbaris, not Usulis. So the quote attributed to Behbahani is that of Astarabadi. This proves that the Wahhabis who always try to find sources to back up their anti-Shia propaganda, have no clue what they copy paste to prove their point…

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