Talk:Shirley Heights (horse)

Son and sire[edit]

While many Epsom Derby winners have themselves been the son of a previous Epsom Derby winners, Shirley Heights is, as of October 2008, the only Epsom Derby winner to have been both the son of a previous winner of the race (Mill Reef) and the sire himself of a subsequent winner (Slip Anchor) - I've reverted the edit of October 21st 2008 to the previous version and made the emphasis a little more on the word "both".--Bcp67 (talk) 19:30, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are four horses to lay claim to being both the son of a Derby winner and the sire of one. They are:

1880 Derby winner Bend Or is the son of 1873 winner Doncaster and sire of 1886 winner Ormonde.
1920 Derby winner Spion Kop is the son of 1906 winner Spearmint and sire of 1928 winner Falstead.
1933 Derby winner Hyperion is the son of 1918 winner Gainsborough and sire of 1941 winner Owen Tudor.

As such, I have changed the article back to read "Shirley Heights is the last...". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Outofgum (talk • contribs) 15:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you argue that Gainsborough and Owen Tudor didn't win Epsom Derbys, SH is still not unique, just unusual. Tigerboy1966 20:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - didn't know what I was on about all those years ago! And 2013 might see another addition to the list. --Bcp67 (talk) 20:15, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hope so, New Approach was one of the articles that really got me in to editing. Tigerboy1966 21:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Took a few more years, but New Approach finally made it! --Bcp67 (talk) 07:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not primary over the place in Antigua[edit]

The horse is named after the place, not vice versa. Provisionally moving to (horse) to reduce WP:ASTONISH and misdirection, but leaving redirect in place as so many incoming links. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:04, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tone[edit]

Recent edits were too OMG and promotional in tone, not encyclopedic. Also, inadequately sourced. I reverted to the status quo ante per WP:TNT. I know this is a bit abrupt, but WP:BRD applies here. Some of the added material may be able to be reincorporated into the article, but carefully, without hagiography, and with attention to proper form. Montanabw^(talk) 02:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]