Talk:Sierra Leone women's national football team

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Former good articleSierra Leone women's national football team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 7, 2012Good article nomineeListed
July 9, 2022Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 15, 2012.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Marta met the Sierra Leone women's national football team in 2011 as part of the United Nations Development Programme?
Current status: Delisted good article

DYK nomination[edit]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Tea with toast (talk · contribs) 22:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Clarifications needed[edit]

I have completed my initial review of this article, and most things look to be in order. However, there are a few things I would like to have clarified in the article:

  • The team ranks 130th, but out of how many teams in the world?
    • This actually changes from ranking period to ranking period, depending on how many teams are active. (In some cases, a team can be on the bottom at 136, but in other cases, if teams are playing, the bottom could be 146.) In this case, they are last at 130 along with about 46 other teams. Clarified the wording to hint that. --LauraHale (talk) 23:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the "under 20 national team" section, I'm confused about Togo's "walk over win" against Sierra Leone. Could you explain more about what happened? Why did Sierra Leone withdraw?
  • At the end of the first paragraph in the "Background" section, why is commercialisation not a solution? What happened in other countries?
    • Fixed wording. Basically, source says in African countries don't need commercial success in terms of a viable commercial domestic league. They just need player participation and player training. Tweaked wording. --LauraHale (talk) 23:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think the problem is that the wording is stating "commersialisation [...] is not the solution" as a fact rather than an opinion/speculation, which I feel it is. I'm also not entirely sure what is meant by "commersialisation" --to me it might mean advertising matches of national games to increase ticket sales, but perhaps you (or the author of the source) means it as creating a professional, profit-making football league. So, I'm still a bit confused by this. I would appreciate some further clarification. --Tea with toast (話) 14:02, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Commercialisation is pretty broad and the text implies that broadness from what I can tell: Making money off women's football no matter what the form in order to make it commercially viable IE self sustaining in terms of funding. --LauraHale (talk) 08:55, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough --Tea with toast (話) 23:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • And finally, in the last sentence -- why is popularity of the sport declining? Are there any sources speculating on the reason?
    • Sources I have seen haven't explained why. The source just say it is. --LauraHale (talk) 08:55, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I'll put this article on hold until these are addressed. Happy editing! --Tea with toast (話) 23:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Final review[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    --Tea with toast (話) 23:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Sierra Leone women's national football team/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

I will be reassessing this article to determine whether it still meets the Good Article criteria. Any user is encouraged to assist in improving the article to keep it up to GA standards. Thanks. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:01, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. See issues below.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Lists and sections are not supposed to be empty, of course, and there are many examples of this. The sections "Coaching staff", "Players", and "Records" are all mostly or entirely empty and some are orange-tagged as a result. There are two empty lists each in the "Players" and "Records" sections, and the "Coaching staff" section gives very little information. I am also not convinced of the need for results tables for tournaments such as the World Cup, Olympics, and African Games given Sierra Leone has never qualified for any of them. The lead section could also be expanded by a few more sentences at least.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. A few problems here: Ref 4 gives no information, Refs 8, 9, 19, 20, 22, 29, 33, 34, 35, 37, and 39 don't work, and Ref 25 just goes to the home page of what appears to be a blog site.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). "Flickr" shows up as not being the most reliable source. If there's a more reliable source that shows these pictures that would be preferred.
2c. it contains no original research. "Competitive record" has no citations.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. The vast majority of the prose is reserved for the background of the state of football in the country or the national youth teams, but there's not a ton on the senior national team itself.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. No images.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. No images.
7. Overall assessment.

Issues with criterion 1a[edit]

Lead[edit]

  • The article is orange-tagged as a whole, which could qualify for a quickfail but I will do the full review anyways in hopes that it can be salvaged.
  • "which is part of the Confederation of African Football" → give "CAF" abbreviation here since it's used later in the article
  • "only four FIFA recognised matches" → link FIFA and hyphenate "FIFA-recognised"

History[edit]

  • "In 1985, almost no country in the world had a women's national football team" → "In 1985, few countries had a women's national football team"
  • "In a game in Nigeria on 6 November 1994, Sierra Leone women's national football team lost 0–9 to Nigeria after being down 0–6 at the half" → very repetitive. Need to find a way to avoid mentioning Nigeria twice and there isn't a need to give the full name "Sierra Leone women's national football team" since that's a given
  • "In a game in Freetown on 20 November 1994, Sierra Leone women's national football team lost 0–2 to Nigeria after being down 0–2 at the half" → same problem as before. Also link Freetown.
  • "and did not participate in the 2011 All Africa Games" → add bolded words
  • "They improved their ranking to 130th best in the world in June 2012 but at still at the bottom of the world rankings alongside 46 other women's national teams." → awkward wording (bold is mine). Also - they were bottom of the world rankings alongside 46 other teams, which were all also at the bottom?
  • "at the time colonial powers brought football to Sierra Leone and the continent was limited, as colonial powers in the region tended" → repetitive
  • "greater opportunities elsewhere Continent wide" → "continent" should be lowercase
  • "The United Nations ranked Sierra Leone 180 out of 187 on their Human Development Index." → when? Also link Human Development Index
  • "In 2007 [past tense], a football administrator from the country is [present tense] in charge of the women's football committee in the West African Football Union" → tense issues, notes and emphasis mine
  • "after a pilot programme in 2010/2012" → does that mean "2010 through 2012" or "2010 and 2012, but not 2011"?
  • "Girls participating in the programme are given scholarships to attend, with 93% attending school regularly while involved with the programme, a much higher percentage than the national average for female school attendance" → should not be present tense
  • "Women are football spectators, watching live games in rural and remote areas of the country" → seems to be a generalization of the entire population
  • "Rights to broadcast the 2011 Women's World Cup in the country" → link 2011 FIFA Women's World Cup

Team image[edit]

  • "Nicknames" section gives only one nickname, not multiple
  • "Sierra Leone has a Sierra Leone women's national under-20 football team" → why phrase it like that? Remove the country name from the second mention.
  • "2010/2011" → should be "2010–2011" per MOS:DATERANGE
  • "They did not advance to the U20 Women's World Cup" → link 2012 FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup
  • "2010 CAF FIFA U20 World Cup" → what is the "CAF FIFA U20 World Cup" is this the qualification for the 2010 FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup?
  • "as Guiena withdrew from the tournament" → "Guinea" should be spelled correctly
  • "but Togo earned a walkover win against Sierra Leone" → "but Togo advanced on a walkover"
  • "The announcement was made a week after the under-17 lost 0–3 to Gambia" → I think it is more straightforward to keep the u17 results in the u17 section and the u20 information in the u20 section.
  • "Sierra Leone has a Sierra Leone women's national under-17 football team" → again, what is with this wording
  • "African Women U-17 Championship Qualifying Tournament 2010" → "2010 African Women U-17 Championship Qualifying Tournament"
  • "CAF qualifiers for the FIFA U-17 World Cup" → link 2012 FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup
  • "that will be held in Azerbaijan in September 2012" → tournament was held ten years ago, so this should be in past tense rather than present
  • "The team was supposed to play the Gambia women's national under-17 football team" → pipe the link to just display "Gambia"
  • "Sierra Leone lost the first leg in Banjul, Gambia 0–3." → comma after "Gambia" per MOS:GEOCOMMA
  • "The return match was delayed for 24 hours" → why?
  • "Gambia won the first match in 3–0 in a game played in Banjul" → already mentioned several sentences earlier
  • "The return match was delayed in for 24 hours and played in Makeni" → again, the delay is already mentioned
  • "The team is coached by Hannah Williams, while Tamba Moses was the assistant coach" → goes from present to past tense within the same sentence
  • It might help to put some of these players listed in the totally empty roster templates in the "Players" section

Results and fixtures[edit]

  • "as well as any future matches that have been scheduled" → incorrect, as no future matches are listed

Coaching staff[edit]

  • "Anna Williams (????–)" → this gives very little information; her name is in the table above, the date she took the position is not given, and her predecessors are also not listed.

Players[edit]

  • "The following players were named on 10 October 2021 for the 2022 Africa Women Cup of Nations qualification tournament. Caps and goals accurate up to and including 30 October 2021" → not true, there are no players or stats listed at all.

Records[edit]

  • "Active players in bold, statistics correct as of 2020" → why put this if there's no information at all? Also, remove the bold from the "as of [year]" section, that is unneeded

Competitive record[edit]

  • The "total" row of the "WAFU Women's Cup record" table doesn't make much sense; I suspect it was copy-pasted from another country's page as 3≠0, 0≠3, and 1≠17.

See also[edit]

Overall review conclusion[edit]

WP:GAR states that An individual assessment may be closed after seven days of no activity. As there has been no activity on the review for seven days, I am closing the review. My conclusion is that the article fails GA criteria 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, 2c, and 3a at least, and therefore will be delisted. If improvements are made in the future, and the article is brought up to par, it can be renominated for GA. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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