Talk:Siouxsie Wiles

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Page rewrite[edit]

I am going to rewrite this page within the newt two weeks. You can let me konw if you have some important or interesting information you would like to have included. Trymianc (talk) 16:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking forward to seeing this page in better shape. Sgerbic (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest[edit]

Stevengalbraith, can you please review WP:COI? Once you’ve done so, you will see why it’s not ok for you to edit this bio. If something needs attending to, please say so on this talk page and someone else will attend to it. Schwede 66 00:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested update[edit]

Thanks for your comment on the COI rules. We ask that the wiki page mention that Siouxsie was made an NZ citizen in 2014. Note that the Blake Leadership Award and Kiwibank NZer of the year are only awarded to NZ citizens. An image of her citizen certificate is here: https://www.math.auckland.ac.nz/~sgal018/nz-citizen.jpg

Thanks. I'll attend to that. Schwede 66 22:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much.

That's a primary source. We're not allowed to use primary sources in wikipedia. I've found an alternative source for her becoming a citizen in 2014. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:52, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to 2021 NZ award in Science Communication section[edit]

Because there's already mention of her 2018 finalist in NZ-of-the-year in the Science Communication section, I thought it would be reasonable to add a reference to the 2021 award, which was also specifically around communication. I think I might have messed up copying the footnote references though, there seems to be a double-up on them now, sorry. Hopefully someone more mediawiki-ish can fix that for me ...

2021 Auckland beach visit[edit]

Hi Schwede66, I have added media coverage of Wiles' controversial Auckland beach visit in September 2021 from a range of sources including The New Zealand Herald, Stuff, Otago Daily Times and Newshub. The general sense is that Cameron Slater uploaded the video on his blog BFD, which was then picked up by other right-wing blogs like Kiwiblog. This attracted attention from National Party leader Judith Collins. Wiles then issued her side of her story explaining that her friend was part of the same bubble and that they had cycled to the beach. Have also included Ashley Bloomfield's response. COVID-19 management has become a controversial issue with the Opposition and their supporters looking for opportunities to highlight shortcomings in the Government's response. Siouxsie became a target due to her position as an adviser to the Government's COVID-19 management policies. Feel free to edit my paragraph if you see fit. Andykatib 13:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some minor edits. However I think this episode is undue for a scientist's biography and would fail the WP:10YEARTEST. It would be more appropriate on Collins' article. -- haminoon (talk) 05:10, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this is of more relevance to the career of Judith Collins than Siouxsie Wiles.-gadfium 06:20, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Haminoon, while I agree with most of your recent edits to this article, I've undone your removal of Wiles saying her friend (from her bubble) broke a Level 4 rule. As I've stated, Wiles was accused of breaking other rules, which was disproved. She agreed this rule was broken and expressed regret, which is relevant to a person at the “forefront of science communication in New Zealand during the COVID-19 pandemic”. As cited, this was reported by the Herald and Stuff, and Tweeted by Wiles herself. E James Bowman (talk) 07:19, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The edit you reverted had the summary "wp:undue". I stand by that not telling off a friend for swimming in Level 4 is an undue and petty inclusion in a scientist's biography. The reference you have used says "she’s a grown woman and I’m not her mum." -- haminoon (talk) 07:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One sentence about the rule that was broken isn't giving undue weight within the context of the article. It is in proportion to how it was reported in the two source articles. And it doesn't represent a minority viewpoint, it is the viewpoint of the subject of the article. Its inclusion reinforces the neutrality of the information about this event, centred around Wiles. E James Bowman (talk) 21:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]