Talk:Soda Stereo

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Former good articleSoda Stereo was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 15, 2006Good article nomineeListed
July 24, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
March 1, 2010Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

We need a copy in Spanish, please!![edit]

It is quite apparent to me that the user who is writing this article is not very fluent in English, and is struggling to put down his ideas properly. I would recommend that this user would rather work on a version of this same article for the Spanish version of Wikimedia. Then we could have a way to know what this user is meaning to say and we could better help in the edition of this very article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xanderall (talk • contribs) 16 September 2005.

Possible copyvio from the All Music Guide[edit]

This article is very similar to the band's entry in allmusic.com. I looked at the article's history, and am now suspecting that there was a cut-and-paste in the revision as of 12:54, 27 February 2005. (From the comparison with the preceding version, it is obvious that the a large amount of text was added in a short time.) According to Wikipedia:Copyright problems, the official policy is to revert the article to the last non-copyrighted version, and then annotate the suspected violation in Wikipedia's reporting page. I'm reluctant to take such a drastic step, since I do like the way the other contributors wikified and enhanced the article after the suspected violation. However, if no one objects, I will go ahead and do the revert in a week. --Lazybum 01:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has been a week since I wrote the above, and there hasn't been any objection so far. What I will do is as following: (1) Replace the article with the copyvio template; (2) Create a new article by combining the last non-copyvio version with the salvageable part of the current version (i.e. discography, videography, external sites), and place it in the /temp page; and (3) annotate in the reporting page. I think this is the best way to salvage the article, and at the same time alert as many people as possible about the copyright violation. --Lazybum 15:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

soda stereo[edit]

[message brougth from my talk page]

why do you keep deleting the links to a LEGAL album download? the "tributo bizarro a Soda Stereo" ???

It seems very selfish to me, since the autors had the rights and they decided to give them away.

It always happens that some dork with no power at all on his life goes to the internet and tries to make life difficult to others, because of their nettiquette or whatsoever excuse they might find.

JC Fuentes Michel jcfuentes@gmail.com

PD: I don't want to start a discussion, because "the only thing better than winning gold in the special olympics, is not taking part". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.133.35.148 (talk • contribs)

Hi there. I reverted your edits because they disrupted the format of the page, and included a seams-to-me not important tribute album. I'll try to properly format it.
BTW, good joke on the 'special olympics'.
Mariano(t/c) 08:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tour[edit]

I'm reverting some of the changes that have been made to this article. Lists within articles should be avoided, please read Wikipedia:Embedded list. Also, I'm removing from the article an image with no fair use rationale and no copyright information. No-Bullet (Talk • Contribs) 19:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Soda Stereo/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force ("GA Sweeps"), all old good articles are being re-reviewed to ensure that they meet current good article criteria (as detailed at WP:WIAGA.) I have determined that this article needs some work to meet current criteria, outlined below:

  • Paragraphs are composed of three or more sentences; no less. All the one or two-sentence groupings need to either be fleshed out, merged with other groups, or cut entirely.
  • Apparently unsourced statements in the article include:
    • "The first three songs of the album were released as singles, "Picnic en el 4B", "En la Ciudad de la Furia" and "Lo que Sangra (La Cúpula)". Languis was released as an EP in the next year, and contained only one new song, "Mundo de Quimeras"."
    • "Shortly after the release, bassist Zeta Bosio suffered the loss of one of his two sons in a car accident which pushed the band to stop touring and promoting the album and go into a hiatus during which singer Gustavo Cerati started his solo career with his debut album Amor Amarillo."
    • " Another CD was released named Chau Soda ("Bye Soda"); it contains the most elaborated version of Signos."
    • "A reunion tour was finally announced on June 9, 2007 as the "Me Verás Volver" tour ("You Will See Me Come Back", referring to lyrics on Doble Vida's "En la Ciudad de la Furia"). The tour started at the River Plate stadium on October 19, 2007, where they played "El Último Concierto" in 1997."
    • "After the tour, the members of the band have continued with their individual careers. Together with the new comeback tour, a compilation album was released, entitled Me Verás Volver (Hits & +). Exclusive content can be downloaded via the band's official website using a special code featured on the CD booklet."
    • "Cerati was also featured in Shakira's song "The Day and the Time" in her album called Oral Fixation, Volume 2 in 2005. The Spanish version of this song is called "Dia Especial" and can be found in the 1st volume of Fijacion Oral."
    • "In 1997 he produced Nacion Hip Hop, a CD compilation of local underground rap artists that is considered[by whom?] the founding stone of Argentine's hip hop scene. He also worked closely with hip hop act Tumbas (who opened for Soda Stereo in their last concert) and DJ Tortuga, who later became part of the experimental hip hop trio Koxmoz."
  • What makes "Desde Abajo", "Rock.com.ar.", and "Me Verás Volver" reliable sources?
  • Where is the critical commentary and significant text needed so that File:SodaStereo-PersianaAmericana.ogg, File:SodaStereo-CiudadFuria.ogg, and File:SodaStereo-SeptimoDia.ogg meet WP:NFCC? (As of this posting, they do not have fair use rationales, which is grounds for deletion.)

I am putting the article on hold for one week pending improvements to the above. Keep me posted on progress via this page or message. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 21:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As no progress has been made on the above, I am delisting the article. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 21:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Translation from Spanish Language Article[edit]

I am working on a translation from the Spanish language article. I am new to Wikipedia so this might take a few day.

I started working on the latter sections. Due to the amount of footnotes used this is going to take a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.160.143.240 (talk) 16:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Influence in Latin America[edit]

If anything Soda Stereo is one of the most influential bands in Hispanic America. In Brazil they remain practically unknown to this day.As a matter of fact Soda Stereo never played a single gig in Brazilian soil.--Rivet138 (talk) 21:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So what? Brazil is not part of Hispanic America, as long as I know. The fact they were/are unknown in Brasil doesn't mean they were influential in the rest of Latin America. Faezdel (talk) 13:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


I am revising the introduction. I think this one is better because it is more concise and does not focus too much on awards. I need better sources, the sources provided by the Spanish cite are from various websites, not that great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tymaster00 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Awkwardly written and not neutral. Let's fix this article![edit]

Hello everyone. As a bilingual English Wikipedia editor and Soda Stereo fan, I've read through this article, and a lot of sections post-introduction either seem to be a direct transliteration of the Spanish article (which often leads to awkwardly-written passages) or just outright opinions with uncited text that seem to be bordering on fanboyism at times, with all due respect to the authors of these sections.

For example, take the "Legacy" section:

Soda Stereo was the beginning of a globalization movement that incorporated local musicians into a great continental rock movement, up to the point of leading local critics to wonder: "Does it make sense to keep talking about "national rock "?".[1] In many parts of Latin America, including Colombia, "Soda Stereo became the expression of the musicality and poise of a new generation, one which tried to differentiate themselves from that of those in their thirties in the 1980s who preferred the Dominican merengue, by beginning to listen and sing rock in Spanish."[2] In Chile, Soda not only marked a whole generation with their looks, lyrics and music, but especially by way of the intense emotional relationship developed between the band and its fans, which was a decisive factor to "de-nationalize" the band and make it an expression, and not only young people in a particular country, but youth as a sector uniform social issues and common languages, something that rock and roll had not been achieved so far in the Spanish-speaking countries due to language barrier.[3]

While sparse sources are provided here and there, the section as a whole does not seek to provide facts as to the importance of the band on subsequent musical acts in Argentina or elsewhere in Hispanic America, and violates WP:NPOV. The analysis of their careers or influence is vague at best and biased at worst. No facts or statistics are given as to their concert attendances, how many albums they sold post-career, who has cited them as influences, etc. Plus, the language barrier makes for an awkwardly-written passage that may not read too smoothly for English-speaking audiences. This is a pattern that we see persist throughout the entire article post-introduction.

It makes me very sad as a lover of this band to see the article delisted. But as the son of Venezuelans I understand that, since Soda Stereo's greatest sphere of influence is mainly confined to Latin America, most contributors to this article will be Spanish speakers, since it is virtually impossible to gain a real understanding of the band without having to properly read, digest, and cite Spanish sources. But I wanted to write this section to call for English Wikipedia editors, possibly bilingual, to fix this article to the English Wikipedia standards for the issues I cited above, such as neutrality and awkward prose. There's a lot of interesting facts out there on this band that we could turn into an excellent article for English speakers about one of the (in my opinion, of course) greatest bands in Latin rock history.

I'm currently working on hopefully adding to the Dynamo and Canción Animal articles and fixed this article's introduction to the best of my abilities. Hopefully that'll give us a good head start.

Thanks everyone. Viva Soda! -HandIsNotNookls (talk) 15:29, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Libros: "Bailando sobre los escombros" de Carlos Polimeni" (in Spanish). pagina/12.com. Retrieved 12 May 2002.
  2. ^ "Grasas Totales por Javier Aguirre" (in Spanish). pagina/12.com. Retrieved 12 May 2002.
  3. ^ "Libros: "Bailando sobre los escombros" de Carlos Polimeni" (in Spanish). pagina12.com. Retrieved 12 May 2002.[permanent dead link]

"¡Gracias totales!" translation[edit]

Totales is a very strange way of putting a numerative, as total is a numerative in itseft. Cerati dedicated a few brief words to his fans and crew before saying something like "Thank you... totally total! or alternatively "Totally total... thank you! That is why it surprised the Spanish speaking world and it stands as today.

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