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Isle of[edit]

I thought it was called Isle Of Sodor. From what I've heard it's locatet just between Scotland and Ireland... True?

"Isle" and "Island" are often interchangeable terms. The article clearly states:

Sodor is supposed to be in the Irish Sea, between the Isle of Man and Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria.

--=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 11:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And just for the record Cumbria is in England not Scotland Penrithguy 21:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sodor - a Crown dependency?[edit]

Is Sodor suppossed to be a Crown dependency like the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands or is it a constituient part of the United Kingdom or even a county of England.

Also as I have never read any of the "histories" of Sodor written by the Awdry family if Sodor is a seperate entity to the UK then how is it subdivided? Or did the Awdrys never explain this? Penrithguy 20:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think it's meant to be an island that's apart of Great Britain, but not in quite as much control as the Isle of Man or Channel Islands. I only think this because in The Railway Series, Sodor's Northwestern Railway became part of British Railways. Triviatronic9000 (talk) 03:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Marthwaite vs. Maithwaite[edit]

Close examination of the maps on this page http://www.pegnsean.net/~railwayseries/mapsection.htm show Marthwaite to be correct. It seems that some years ago somebody mis-read it as Maithwaite and this has spread. The maps are from the original books which came before toys and TV series. -=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 13:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Big or Small?[edit]

Is Sodor big or small? Felix 22:56, 15 July 2006

Sodor's dimensions are mentioned in the article as is the fact that the TV version seems to be larger Penrithguy 10:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Felix, on the Sodor Island Forums site I believe there is a fan fiction section why not join up to the Forums and write your own stories about these engines you have created just one question why would a railway in the British Isles have so many American locomotives? Penrithguy 21:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At least it's lucky the Island of Sodor is bigger in the television show. Felix 17:18, 11 August 2006

Fictional Places[edit]

I have removed the paragraph listing the places on the island, linking it to Fictional Locations (The Railway Series). More information can be added there, as can other small places not yet mentioned - this page is primarily for the Railway Series, and not for Television info. A page for that may be created in the future. Mdcollins1984 15:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abandoned railway to south-east of Island?[edit]

An anon editor recently added:

There is also an abandoned line that linked the southeast coast of the island to the MoD base that is also served by the Skarloey Railway.

Now this may well be true, but I don't remember it being mentioned in the books. Can anyone shed some light on it? (and provide the necessary reference?)

EdJogg 00:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't seem to recall it being mentioned in the stories but a number of maps were published (e.g. in the front of books) based on the Rev. Awdry's originals. This page has quite a few, which were used when creating the map used in the article. This close-up shows the line in question with the words "track of old railway". -=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 06:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the Real lives of Thomas site [1] there is a history of the Skarloey Railway which tells of a horse drawn railway running from the slate quarries to the sea via Crovan's Gate which was replaced by the Skarloey line. I believe this is the "Track of Old Railway" shown on the maps. Penrithguy 10:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both. The close-up is from The Island of Sodor... book, so, having checked the map, I then looked at the Skarloey Railway section of that book. Sure enough, the first two paragraphs describe the earliest railway on the island... ...a horse-drawn, fish-belly railed, plateway with inclines -- a veritable link-fest!

Worth adding here and on the Skarloey page too. The two problems I had were regarding the "MOD base" (it certainly wasn't that at the time) and the rather vague 'south-east coast' location. Cheers

EdJogg 00:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore[edit]

is it just me, or does Sodor look like Singapore? is there any connection?--74.237.54.62 (talk) 03:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think Singapore (map here) looks more like the Isle of Wight than Sodor! -- EdJogg (talk) 12:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its not just you, it does look like Singapore. I finally sat through a full Thomas DVD with my young son and it hit me straight way, mainly because I'm FROM Singapore! -- markds (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2011 (SGP)

OK, I acknowledge that there is a superficial resemblance between Sodor and Singapore, but mainly because both are fairly amorphous shapes. Note that unless you have a Reliable Source for this suggestion, there is no place for it in the article. -- EdJogg (talk) 12:55, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sodor to be real in the future?[edit]

A groupd of Internet Entreprenurs are trying to build sodor for real! It is on Reddit and Sodor Island Fansite, and at least one person is doing a feasibillity study on building it. If it becomes real, then this article will need to be backed up by reliable sources verifying the progress. Similar to artificial islands popping up in places like Dubai. 31.124.144.137 (talk) 07:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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It is real[edit]

remove fictional island and everything related to it being fictional — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.253.233.145 (talk) 22:25, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article explains how the author made it up at Sodor_(fictional_island)#Inspiration_and_creation. - SummerPhD^v2.0 01:13, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Skarloey Railway RDT[edit]

Just wanted to mention that Template:Skarloey Railway RDT exist and may be relevant for this article. --Trialpears (talk) 20:41, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

As per WP:ELNO, open wikis are generally not appropriate as external links. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trimming[edit]

Per the clear guidelines (and common sense) of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction, I have trimmed much of the article. The reminder probably needs a partial rewrite to fix remaining issues of in-universe tone. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:29, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates ?[edit]

There are coordinates attached to this article - do they need removing ? Currenly its located between Wales and Isle of Man — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exussum12 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Exussum12: I have removed them; because this is a fictional place (so the location can be described without putting fictional, WP:OR coordinates), and the alleged coordinates were wrong anyway (it should be closer to Barrow-in-Furness, to begin with) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Castles[edit]

Throughout every era of the television series, we see plenty of castles in the background (and one of them, Ulfstead Castle is a main location in "King of the Railway" and we see the characters travel there in many episodes after that, such as "The Switch", where Millie and Luke swap jobs for a while. What I'm wondering is: Aside from Ulfstead, how much information do we get on the other castles? I'm sure the set designers wouldn't just put them in for no reason other than for a more lively (or lived in) world, but while I have my own theory, I don't know for sure. Sorry if this seems like an unfit topic. Triviatronic9000 (talk) 03:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Placenames[edit]

The article mentions that Many of the place names are based on Manx words, but often conforming to English word order, e.g. Killdane, which comes from "Keeill-y-Deighan" (Church of the Devil). <X> <article> <Y> is the word order used in Goidelic languages for "[the] X of the Y", and is nothing to do with English word order. It's unclear what the article is referring to here. Stadhan (talk) 00:44, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strange insignia[edit]

In the "Description of Lines" section there is an image of the rail lines in the style of Henry Beck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maps-sodor-map-beck-amoswolfe.png In the bottom right corner there is an insignia that bears a striking resemblance to the Nazi flag, a black geometric shape in a white circle on a red field. This feels intentional. Is there any source that corroborates this imagery as being from the Thomas series? Or is it just wholly inappropriate and in need of removal? Paula Bunions (talk) 06:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]