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Image[edit]

For the time being I am going to leave the latest picture of Sofia Vergara up on the page. I will not revert the picture to the older and lower-res one unless it is deemed necessary. Hrana98 02:59, 31 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The user Dvirgueza is a registered vandal user. Check his contributions. I vote for blocking him too.
EliasAlucard|Talk 07:20, 08 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

Hair color . . .[edit]

why is there a need to mention her hair color? if you say because of her work on "films and TV", you need to rewrite that paragraph. Obviously, actors change their appearance to fit the role they are portraying. and in any case, her hair-color is not "naturally blonde/sunbleached hair" ( how it can be naturally blonde and bleached at the same time is beyond me)it is a more light brown . . .

Good points. I agree that this paragraph (and other parts of the article) needs work. But to call the authors idiots is unnecessary. I changed the heading of this talk to "Hair color". --ChaChaFut 02:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tend to disagree Unfortunately with most Hispanic actresses, the tendency is that they are all dark-haired brunettes which makes for stereotypes. Having seen mostly current pictures of Sofía Vergara as a brunette would reinforce this stereotype. This is tidbit information that is noteworthy and should remain either where listed or as part of a new trivia section. Ronbo76 17:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, sun bleached hair is a naturally occuring situation. If you are light-haired and expose yourself to prolonged sun, it darkens or "bleaches" because of the melatonin in both. Do a search on "sun bleached hair" and you should come up with discussions about this. Ronbo76 23:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you mean "Melanin", not "Melatonin", and hair lightens upon exposure to the sun, not darkens, which is the opposite of bleaching anyway.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:10, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To OP. she has said she's blonde from her own mouth "Very Blond. My whole family is blond blue eyes, very nice." Reference: 'The View' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2InAdadKzho Also due to American stereotype of Latin-Americans she dyes her hair black and wears a load of bronze make-up in order to get those roles as her Latina self.--Anen87 (talk) 07:12, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Age and dates don't match.[edit]

Born in 1972, married at 18 and had her son at age 20 in 1992? So why would her son be a reason she needed to drop out of school at 17? Moved onto modeling at 20? she didn't drop out of school, she drop out of college at 20

Vergara links to Chris Paciello (mafia) & Tom Cruise[edit]

There was nothing here about Sofia being linked to Chris Paciello and Tom Cruise. Just a few notables I think are worth mentioning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.66.66.1 (talk) 02:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not raised Bilingual[edit]

Whoever wrote this has no reference besides it's not true. Being raised would be in the household. If she was raised bilingual she wouldn't have such a strong accent which is typical of someone who learned it much older probably in High school when students choose a foreign language to study. Also her Supposedly being raised bilingual made her American transition in English easy is also False, if this were the case then she wouldn't have trouble getting "gringa" (American) roles also but she didn't cause of her very strong foreign accent. She has said "I wasn't getting many jobs when I started acting in Los Angeles they didn't know where to put me with the accent, with the body, with the attitude, but I was blond so I was getting No jobs so I change my hair like this and now everyone believes I was the whole Latin woman" The View Interview. So getting No jobs until Changing one's appearance to get a job I don't see that as being an easy transition either. It has been actually the opposite! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anen87 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As i live in her hometown, i know that she studied at marymount school which is a bilingual school , she did learn english at a very young age, but none the less she lived and was raised in barranquilla, colombia. Therefore she has a strong accent in english because obviously the people she was raised with weren't from the united states even if they knew english, just because u know a language well doesnt mean you are not gooing to have an accent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.89.119.203 (talk) 21:27, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While one appreciates you going to bat for her, the truth is that an individual can rid themselves of an accent like that even into adulthood, especially if they actually studied the language. Her accent makes a bilingual cringe, believe me. It's like listening to Barbara Bermudo's (from Univision)Spanish.Godofredo29 (talk) 15:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

no real Columbian accent, give it a break! 2601:182:F00:2920:403D:872A:5E04:4669 (talk) 02:07, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Raped?[edit]

I read somewhere that Sofia admitted to be sexually abused when she was a child. Apparently she said this in an American show called "The View". Nothing of the sort is mentioned in the personal life section. Should this be included? Thanks --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 19:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

yea. please add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.130.63.52 (talk) 06:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unsigned IP Addresses don't always give the best advice. I would stick to the rules regarding living persons and do not post anything controversial unless you reference reliable sources. XOXOX, Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 21:14, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Last name?[edit]

  • Is her last name supposed to be repeated at the beginning of the article, or is that vandalism  ? (Notice that the infobox only has the last name once.) Erpert (let's talk about it) 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you pointed that out here - I noticed it too! I'm pretty sure it's vandalism or a mistake. If someone can validate that it's actually correct, please report it here with a source. Until then, I'm changing it! DegrassiFreak (talk) 23:52, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not vandalism. Her paternal family name is Vergara and her maternal family name is also Vergara. See the hatnote at the top of the article. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh, I see it now! I would think that kind of info would be in a note, not where "other similarly named articles or disambiguation pages" are placed - hence why I didn't fully pay attention to reading it. Unless I'm completely wrong, I suggest it should be placed in a more noticeable/proper place. Well anyway, thank you for talking time to clarify. :) DegrassiFreak (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And what does that mean? Coincidence? The "spanish naming conventions" confuse me, her parents have also two surnames ... My first thought would be: incest :-P Gerald Jarosch (talk) 17:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not the naming convention i'm used to, but it seems wery simpel and easy(even a bit gender equal). Incest????? 100 million chinese have the family name: Wang, do you still find it to be incest if two Wangs got a child?94.145.236.194 (talk) 09:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"if two Wangs got a child?" I know there has to be a joke in there somewhere! But, no Gerald, it wouldnt be. I know of a couple who's last names were both Smith from opposite ends of the country. It wouldnt be too unusal for something like this to have happened.DEWY CHEATEM AND HOWE (talk) 05:47, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually quite common in Spanish (or Castilian) speaking countries, where there is a smaller pool of surnames then, say, America, where we have many ethnic traditions to draw on for surnames. (I hypothesize that the smaller pool of surnames is part of the reason they have the naming system that they have.) Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 20:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Breasts = Vandalism?[edit]

Is it a Wikipedia taboo to mention physical attributes like breasts because some people are uncomfortable with even a mention of anything that could be construed as sexual? She has stated publicly that she developed at a young age, didn't like them then, but now loves them and acknowledges that they helped her career. I included a citation to a Self magazine article with that information, but my change was still reverted as vandalism. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.64.217.62 (talk) 16:13, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am the person who removed your comment because it was vandalism. You were clearly trying to get Wikipedia to mention her breasts by making the ridiculous claim that they are abnormal. (Your exact words were "unusually large breasts"). You used a reference[1] that does not support that claim. All that reference says is that she developed early, and that she has a sexy shape. In fact her breasts are not "unusually large" as they fall within the normal range[2] (albeit on the "sexy" side of normal). If you seriously think this article needs to mention her breasts then I suggest you obtain a consensus here first. Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 17:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Adding contentious material that may thinly be supported by a supplied source is not considered vandalism on Wikipedia. Please read WP:NOTVAND. However, at this point I disagree with including such a description in her biography. The interview with the subject of the biography establishes the basic facts of her breasts. But it does nothing to prove they are notable or remarkable in the context of her career. I would expect to see secondary sources such as critics and industry insiders commenting on this. If her physical attributes have really influenced her career, then we should have no problem finding third parties who mention it. Elizium23 (talk) 18:27, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for the feedback. I concede that my attempt at pithiness could convey an inaccuracy: that her breast size falls outside of "normal" parameters. Would it be okay if additional 3rd party sources were found to support notability/relevance of her breasts to her career arc, and then to quote the subject as having stated that she has "ridiculous boobs" and "huge tits" (per the Self article)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.64.217.62 (talk) 21:18, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You need to read the policy on living persons before even considering anything like this. You will also want to make sure that your edits are not viewed as silly. Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 16:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"I don't really care if people see me as a bombshell because I can't help it - this is the way I look," says Vergara, who's also a frequent Spanish-magazine cover girl.[3]

First Lead Role in a Film[edit]

I noticed an editor seems to object to the language that calls Three Stooges Ms. Vergara's first lead role in a film. Does anyone know of a reference to a previous leading role in a film? If there is one then it should definitely appear in this page.

All I can find are references to Three Stooges being her first lead role in a film. For example, in addition to the reference in the article there is a story on her here: [4]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djkernen (talk • contribs) 14:58, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the reference in the article. Where does it say that The Three Stooges is Vergara's first leading role?
Also, what makes mandatory.com a reliable source? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Scratch that. I see there's a second page to the Daily Beast article that says it's "really your first lead role in a film". — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:07, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
LOL I just found that same paragraph but by the time I got back here you had already seen it! Oh well thanks for keeping it honest. Best wishes, Dave Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 15:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is she wicked queen in Disneyland commercial?[edit]

Is sofia the wicked queen in the current Disneyland commercial? 76.89.201.96 (talk) 15:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 30 August 2012[edit]

88.196.188.75 (talk) 22:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)sofia vergara stars in modern family as of 2009 ,not of 2012![reply]

I think you may be confusing "beginning" with "as of". Vergara may have starred in the role beginning in 2009, but as of 2012, she still stars in it. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:20, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blond hair and blue eyes?[edit]

Why do you people keep reverting my edits supplied with referrences? Her old pictures should be enough to show that firstly: she doesn't have and never had blond hair, and secondly: she doesn't have blue eyes. She also states that most people in Columbia have blond hair and Columbian people and common sense report that this is also not true. Blonds do not dye their roots medium-brown and they do not dye their eyebrows medium-brown with blond hair. At best I could go with light-brown hair but never blond! Look at her photos. She's a comedian and it was stated in jest. The best that should be put in an encyclopedia article would be that "she claims". All the references found are copies of her same interview. Anybody have a photo of her with blue eyes? Not likely on a Latina or American native descent. Let me have it! 174.118.142.187 (talk) 03:23, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Claims," in this case, violates WP:CLAIM. Do you have any reliable sources saying she isn't a natural blonde or that it's all a joke? Your suggestion to look at pictures is purely WP:OR, we need high quality, reliable sources for this WP:BLP. Dreadstar ☥ 04:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a claim for blue eyes (she does claim to have family members with blue eyes). I would argue against including that, because it is demonstrably false. As for "blonde", that's a cultural thing. There certainly are blond Columbians, but they generally aren't a pale Nordic blonde, more the color that is called "dishwater blonde" or "Protestant rat". If she wants to claim that, I can't see any reason that we would deny it, and it would still come under the umbrella of "naturally blonde".—Kww(talk) 04:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Her claim is that "Everyone in my family has blonde hair and blue eyes"[1] . She also claimed that most of Columbia's women have blonde hair on the Ellen show. Do the claims of a comedic actress on a comedy show count as a reputable source for a encyclopedia? The sentence as it is now is, at best questionable accuracy and the only accurate statement that anybody can state is what "she claims". WP needs to reflect this accurately or remove the claim completely as is is demonstrably false also. Can anybody produce a reliable second source that isn't just copied from the show reviews? It would seem definitions are the topic here. Medium brown eyebrows and hair roots are not the mark of a natural blonde[2]. She did appear blonde in some of her childhood photos, provided they are authentic. 174.118.142.187 (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Family Circle interview". Retrieved 17 December 2012.
  2. ^ "Sofia Vergara as blonde". www.thebeautyboxsalon.com. Retrieved 17 December 2012.
I believe the appeal to WP:CLAIM is only half-right. We shouldn't write "Vergara claims to have naturally blond hair", but we can say "Vergara says she has naturally blond hair". — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I would only put it that way if there were reliable sources that cast doubt, I haven't seen any. All the RS I've seen that mention the subject talk about her being a 'natural blonde', so there's no reason whatsoever to cast doubt. As far as the 'blue eyes' issue, she does not explicitly say that she herself has blue eyes, just that her family does - a statement such as "Everyone in my family has blonde hair and blue eyes," would not necessarily include her (as the speaker) - and I certainly didn't read it that way. I didn't see the Elen show and I don't see an RS for it, so I cannot comment on that. Dreadstar ☥ 05:27, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The reliable sources concerning Vergara's natural hair color cite Vergara herself. I don't see anything wrong with saying "Vergara says ..."; WP:CLAIM says "Said, stated, described, wrote, and according to are almost always neutral and accurate." I don't think it casts doubts on what she says, it just attributes a factoid to its source.
At the same time, I'm not going to push to change the article if consensus seems to favor leaving it the way it is. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hahahaha!!! I'm a female, and I can assure you that her "blond hair" is absolutely not natural. It's pure highlights made by a hairdresser. You can see it just by looking at her roots and eyebrows, and also at the way the "blond" is "uniform" as opposed to a natural blond that is more messy. You can also clearly see that she is a brunette on the maternity pictures when she was 20, when her son was born. She wasn't yet a model, and she's clearly not blond. She has brown hair! I was really shocked to read in this article that she was supposed to be a "natural blonde". I was also a blond when I was a child. That doesn't mean I'm still one and I'm lighter than her... But in Latin America, anybody who doesn't have black hair tend to call themselves "blond". Go to Mexico and even if you have brown hair, they will call you "güero"/"güera" (blond), even if you are not blond. And in Latin America, especially in Colombia and Venezuela, a lot of women, even the ones with black hair, do highlights. You should definitively delete the part saying that she has "natural blond hair but dye her hair black". It's just ridiculous. She is a brunette. http://web.archive.org/web/20151018010731/http://images.boomsbeat.com/data/images/full/9551/sofia-son-600-jpg.jpg

A lot of Colombian Ex-pats who live in the US seem to have sensitivity issues with their heritage. They'll tell you that they're primarily European in culture but that could be said of ANY Spanish speaking country from Mexico and Guatemala to Panama and Chile. They hate being associated with native and African culture even though many popular Colombians in entertainment and sports exhibit those two backgrounds more so than Spanish. I know I'm generalizing but after encountering more than a dozen it seems to be a universal truth amongst themselves and Sofia reflects this angst.47.157.18.219 (talk) 03:09, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Section on "Stereotypical Roles"[edit]

I reverted the addition on stereotypical roles for a number of reasons.

  1. The section only had one sentence that was only partially about stereotypical roles and mostly about subject's hairstyle;
  2. One sentence is not enough for a separate section;
  3. Putting the sentence in its own section threatens the neutral tone of the article;
  4. Giving the single sentence its own section is undue weight. The policy states:
An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject. For example, discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic.

Please do not revert unless consensus is reached here to put it in its own section. Thanks, Dusty|💬|You can help! 15:41, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Toty" instead of "Toti"?[edit]

I know a "search-test" would give more of the latter than with "y" but since her own son uses "Toty", I would think he knows better how it is written as it was a family callname after all. It's probably used as plain noun without the article even, but I am not around when they call her Toty so I can't know for sure. Yes I did see the reference and few articles writing it with "i", but I doubt they asked her about the orthography of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.68.185.156 (talk) 19:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The sources all spell it "Toti" and we cannot change it without a reliable source. Dusty|💬|You can help! 13:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't her son's webtv series (already referenced in the article) a reliable source? I would think that if he got it wrong, at least his mother would correct him for a project so close to her as opposed to some media article that she cannot control. Or is it because the "i" version with some media coverage preceded his series, that it makes it more reliable? Honest question here; we all know how the media can make mistakes -more often than not- on stories and never correct/verify them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.68.185.156 (talk) 14:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

marriage[edit]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/21/entertainment/sofia-vergara-joe-manganiello-wedding/index.html 21 st november - waiting for a link to confirm, getting married today http://www.filmibeat.com/hollywood/news/2015/sofia-vergara-weds-joe-manganiello-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-wedding-206058.htmlGovindaharihari (talk) 13:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Colombian-American or Colombian-born American or Colombian-born or just Colombian?[edit]

If she just moved to the USA, that doesn't really make her a Colombian-American, does it? Does she have American citizenship? If so, she is more precisely described as a Colombian-born American. Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 16:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Read the last paragraph of the "Personal life" section. She's a naturalized U.S. citizen. 66.87.115.247 (talk) 17:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So she is an American. Should we call her a Colombian-born American? Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 17:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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First Notable English Apperance[edit]

Sofia actually had a role in 2002 in the show My Wife and Kids in Season 3 episode 4. Amlndz03 (talk) 04:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

American TV 1999-2000[edit]

64.175.41.94 (talk) 08:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of inappropriate, disruptive and slanderous material by User:WmLawson[edit]

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Surname Vergara - Why doubled?[edit]

Why is the surname double? On the Wikipedia language pages Deutsch and English  ??? (Wrongly copied from from the 'IMDb' ? There was no a point. When the sentence started again with the family name Vergara.) Why Sofía Margarita 'Vergara Vergara.' ? On all other Wikipedia national language pages, especially in Español only Sofía Margarita Vergara. --Viennea (talk) 17:27, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Viennea - I know this is two years old, but in the Iberian Peninsula and countries with heavily influence from the Iberian Peninsula (i.e - Latin America, the Philippines, Angola), many people have two surnames inherited from their mother and father. In Hispanic countries, the order is usually [father's name] + [mother's name], sometimes joined by the conjunction "y" (meaning "and"). In Brazil and other Lusophone countries, the order is usually [mother's name] + [father's name], and I believe sometimes joined by the conjunction "e" (meaning "and"). Though isn't always the case and sometimes families may chose to not have their children inherit both names.
Sources state both her parents surnames are Vergara, and she has both surnames (not choosing to only use one legally), thus being Sofia Margarita Vergara Vergara.[5] I know it might sound confusing, but many people share the same family name. There are after all, only a finite number of names in every culture. I personally think there might be less ambiguity if the conjunction "y" (meaning "and") is added, perhaps akin to the Anglophone hyphen, but I'm pretty sure that's more of an archaic practice and Sofia's name is not mine. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 21:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The "y" is implied and usually only used when one of the names is two words already, such as say "de Borbón y Ortez". Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:58, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here ex boyfriend[edit]

Sued her 2A02:6B68:4002:0:2DAC:BB49:DB59:D438 (talk) 06:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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