Talk:Stonewall Jackson's arm/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 19:41, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed) I can review this shortly. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:41, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm experimenting with making copyedits as I read rather than flagging every minor thing, if that works for you I'll probably just paste a diff here and ask you to check them over. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:28, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that'll definitely work for me. My copy-editing (and English grammar) are generally atrocious, courtesy of having been raised on a farm. Hog Farm Talk 00:34, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Digging through newspaper clippings,
  • this is probably not great for the history but could be used to cite the 90's work on the site. Here's another source, albeit from before the work was done [1] [2]
  • I read somewhere (of course can't track down the source now) that the tools used to amputate the leg were on display in the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond-- can that be verified?
  • I'm having trouble finding this, although what is believed to have been the tools was loaned to the NPS for a display in 2019, which I've added
  • Thanks for finding that! I've added a short bit based on that. Hog Farm Talk 23:15, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Otherwise I think this includes all (or at least reasonably most) relevant coverage. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Could we break up the 'post-amputation history' section? It's a lot of content for a relatively short article, might better fit as several sections. Also, some of those paragraphs could maybe be split into two, though that's not as big of a deal. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've shuffled the headings around a bit
  • "While the story about Butler's visit is repeated on a historical marker near the site" Which visit, the first or the second?
  • Clarified
  • "Ellwood came under the control of the National Park Service (NPS)," Maybe add a date, if possible?
  • Done
  • You say that "the NPS had failed to find documentation supporting the story from before 1940"-- how do we know the story started circulating in the late 1930s, then?
  • This is unclear to me. The same source gives both dates. I think attributing the pre-1940 limit to the NPS is the best way around this, as the NPS may have only been considering certain types of evidence (print vs. oral?). Hog Farm Talk 02:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you attribute some of the "claims" and similar stuff in the article to specific people? (ie "although it has been claimed that it was added during the 1921 mock battle" or "Other markers placed by Smith at battlefields are "quite approximate in nature""
  • I've attributed these two as best as possible - the 1921 addition claim is attributed only to "legend" in the source, and the "quite approximate in nature" is attributed in the source vaguely to the NPS. No great attribution for most of the other ones, as much of the Butler story is vague urban legend that's been floating around to the extent that multiple sources feel the need to refute it
  • Consider whether the sentence "The marker has become a tourist attraction." could be better integrated-- it feels like a bit of a break from the surrounding sentences. I'm not sure though
  • I've put this into a new short paragraph with the 1998 renovations and the 2019 display of McGuire's surgical kit
Made some copyedits, feel free to rv any/all. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Eddie891: - Thanks for the review! I've attempted to address all of these, but may have missed something as I was trying to keep one of the cats off the keyboard the whole time I was addressing these. Hog Farm Talk 02:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eddie891 - Just letting you know that I think this is ready for a round of re-review. Hog Farm Talk 15:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sorry, was out of town on a (very) long weekend. I'll try to take a look today or this weekend. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've checked some of the sources, everything lines up nicely, no indication of close paraphrasing or copyvio. Passing, sorry for the delay. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:12, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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