Talk:Sufism in Afghanistan

Sufism in Afghanistan was nominated as a Philosophy and religion good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 27, 2023, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Promising article[edit]

@Majun e Baqi:

Hi greetings,

Came across your draft. This seems to be promising encyclopedic article. I do appreciate your effort. Some more scope likely to be available to expand article with google scholar.

Best wishes

Bookku (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cited by scholars in their academic works[edit]

As per the simple Google search this article has been cited by some scholars in their academic researches. So I think it has some merit to be improved to our good article status. Please See this

https://www.transcend.org/tms/2023/03/peace-propagators-part-1-the-sufi-spiritual-masters/

https://country-studies.com/afghanistan/sufis.html

Okoslavia (talk) 14:10, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Unsuccessful. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sufism in Afghanistan/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Trainsandotherthings (talk · contribs) 15:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, this is going to be a quickfail. There is some promise here, but this is very far from being a GA. Let's start with the lead, where we have in the article "Most people are followers of Sufism", sourced to [1], which says "Sufi leaders in Afghanistan claim that at least 60 percent of the country's population are followers of Sufism, or at least support and respect Sufi values." This is a clear mismatch and not a proper interpretation of the source. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty attributes this claim and does not state it as an objective fact, and it should not be treated as such, yet the Wikipedia article just blindly treats it as settled fact. Elsewhere, we have "Sufis in Afghanistan are known for their miraculous powers." which is sourced to [2], which says "People in general respect Sufis for their learning and believe they possess "karamat" - a miraculous spiritual power that enables Sufi masters to perform acts of generosity and bestow blessings." Again, a mismatch; instead of saying that people believe they have powers, the Wikipedia article just states this as an objective fact, which is not following the source.

Quite frankly, when you say things like "Sufism has been part of the country for as long as 1300 years, so Afghanistan is recognised as the "Home of Sufi Saints"" it just makes it clear how incomplete this article is. I simply do not believe this is anything close to broad coverage of the subject, coming in at just 456 words. Many books have been written on this subject, such as [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] which is just a small sampling I found quickly. The extensive coverage of this subject in scholarly sources makes it clear the article we have now is very far away from giving a full overview of this subject, which has an extensive history that deserves a full and complete article. Please come back to GAN after significantly expanding this article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.