Talk:Susan Catania

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Good articleSusan Catania has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 24, 2021Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 17, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Susan Catania (pictured) shocked male legislators by bringing her infant daughter to the floor of the Illinois House of Representatives and nursing her baby in the women's restroom?
In the newsA news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on December 11, 2023.

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Susan Catania/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ezlev (talk · contribs) 05:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hello Edge3! I'm planning to review this article. I have some experience writing GAs, but this will be my first time reviewing one, so I hope you'll bear with me as I figure it out – the article looks to be in good shape, so I'm confident the process won't be too difficult. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 05:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review template[edit]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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I'll update this template as changes are made to the article, and will explain the items that aren't marked with in a discussion section below. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 05:20, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, ezlev! Thanks for picking up the review. Just a heads-up: I'm currently traveling on vacation until Saturday, so I will be delayed in responding to your feedback. I hope that's alright with you. Edge3 (talk) 05:25, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's no problem at all, Edge3. Please don't feel any rush to respond. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 05:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ezlev: Thanks so much for your patience! My response is posted below. Edge3 (talk) 02:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Okay, let's break this down:

  • 1b: This one is because of MOS:LEDE. The first paragraph of the lede is good, but it seems like the second one doesn't cover content in proportion to the way it's discussed in the article body – maybe the body got expanded and the lede was left behind? Believe me, I've been there. A bit of lede expansion would go a long way here.
  • 2b: This one isn't you, it's me. I just need to spot-check sources.
  • 6b: Can a caption be added to the infobox image?

I (apologetically) reserve the right to notice other things that want fixing, so don't get too excited – but this article is well on the way to GA status and I'm confident we can get it there together. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 05:28, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the review! Dege31 added a caption to the infobox image, and I've expanded the lead per your feedback. Let me know if you would like me to make more adjustments. Edge3 (talk) 02:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Great improvements! I've updated the review table accordingly. I'm going to take another detailed look right now, and maybe we can get this article passed! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Having completed a quick surface-level review of all sources and a deeper spot-check on a few randomly selected ones, I'm satisfied with the sourcing, so this article is a GA as far as I'm concerned. Congratulations, Edge3! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:25, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! I appreciate your help with this review. Edge3 (talk) 04:43, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Susan Catania
Susan Catania
  • ... that Susan Catania shocked male legislators by bringing her infant daughter to the floor of the Illinois House of Representatives and nursing her baby in the women's restroom? Source: "In 1974, Susan Kmetty Catania, then an Illinois state representative, shocked her male colleagues by bringing her infant daughter to the floor of the House in Springfield and nursing her baby in the women's washroom." ([1])
    • ALT1: ... that Susan Catania's campaign for Illinois lieutenant governor in 1982 was seen as a referendum on the US Equal Rights Amendment? Source: "....Mrs. Catania's candidacy...gave ERA supporters a springboard to use in a last-ditch attempt to win ratification of the amendment... [N]ational ERA leaders hope a victory by Mrs. Catania...might be seen as a successful referendum on the amendment." ([2])

Improved to Good Article status by Edge3 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:43, 30 October 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life, detailed GA on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I wonder why you didn't suggest the fine lead image? I'd include "commonscat" in the article. I like the original hook particularly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for the review. I didn't suggest the lead image because I was concerned about its resolution. I couldn't find an original file online, so I scanned the photo from a print copy of her memoir at the Chicago Public Library's special collections section. It was a rather unusual way for me to get the photo, but at least it worked in this case. If you think I should include the photo in this DYK nom, I'd be happy to add it in. I've added the commons cat template, as you suggested. Thanks! Edge3 (talk) 21:36, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that resolution is a minor concern for the stamp size of the Main page. I suggest you include it, - no guarantee it will be taken but I think it shows a great face. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Ok! I've added it in. I agree that it's a great portrait. It really conveys her maverick, activist personality. Edge3 (talk) 21:54, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, the image is properly licensed and the perfect illustration of the breastfeeding ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]