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Saint Gwendoline[edit]

Gundelindis (Gwendoline) d. 750 AD. Not sure if this is relevant.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 12:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revamping the article[edit]

I've made a small start but there's a lot to do to improve this article to a standard appropriate for a small town. Content needs to be more encyclopaedic and less promotionl and/or conversational. References/citations are required for much of the existing material which otherwise has the feel of hearsay. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements for guidance. cheers Geopersona (talk) 08:17, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pele Tower[edit]

It is unclear that Talgarth Tower House is a Pele tower. The cited source is book of photographs of the area and does not look like a work of significant academic scholarship.[1] The Coflein page on the building describes it as '18th Century', and 'can be interpreted as a 14th century, or later strong tower subsequently incorporated into modern house'.[2] The Pevsner Guide for Powys describes it as a tower house and says it has a 17th century roof and has windows and other features that look 14th century. Peel or Pele tower is a term used for fortified houses in northern England and Southern Scotland and there is no clear reason to use that term here. I will remove the tower house from the lead and revise the description in the 'Buildings and other sites of note' section. Verbcatcher (talk) 23:13, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Providing referenced material[edit]

I have added some re the area's geology and wildlife and (temporarily?) removed some unreferenced material which I hope can be re-added once some refs are located. Also removed other material which though perhaps of interest, was not local to Talgarth. cheers Geopersona (talk) 18:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is the material I removed; some is not local to Talgarth, some requires suitable references prior to perhaps being reintroduced to the article:
The fossil remains of ancient armoured fishes have been found in rocks within the late Silurian/early Devonian-age Lower Old Red Sandstone rocks exposed in local streamsides. Microscopic analysis has found fish scales and fin spines of these ancient fish some 410 million years old. Within the area of Talgarth, a rare spider-like fossil was found at Tredomen quarry as well as remains of ancient plants.
There is some barytes present in rocks at Pwll-y-Wrach. There is a small source of lead ore at the Gospel Pass in the uppermost reaches of the River Honddu where strings of galena were found circa 1800. There was also an unsuccessful trial mine for copper at Felin Fach nearer Brecon in the 17th century. There was further exploration in the 19th century when speculation was running high; a fallen-in shaft and tunnel still exists.
Copper in the form of small green patches of malachite has been found in rocks at the base of a large mountain gully above Velindre. It is not known if this was exploited but the area has been referred to as the 'copper works' in a manuscript on beating the boundary of Llanigon parish. Limestone in the form of 'calcrete' within the local sandstone rocks has been burnt for lime in many places across the Black Mountains for both lime mortar and agricultural uses.
A thick tuff bed (~20 cm) was discovered in the banks of the River Ennig not far above Penbont Bridge in the vicinity of Talgarth. It was believed to belong to the so-called Townsend Tuff Bed which has three distinct beds or layers in close proximity, known as layers A, B and C. A is the lowest bed and is recognised by coprolites on its upper surface; these may be the droppings of some unidentified crustacean. The finder had seen these beds at Cusop and Merbach Hill (Herefordshire) and they are widely known throughout the Old Red Sandstone of the Anglo-Welsh area by geologists. Recently concern was shown that this middle bed was at risk from the building of Talgarth's flood defences in the upper River Ennig.
I have (injudiciously?) left the witch-ducking story in place in the article together with its 'citation needed' label as I know this to be a well-rehearsed story locally, for which there must (surely?) be a written reference. Geopersona (talk) 19:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great work. I agree it should be removed. I didn't want to remove too much when I edited before. However WP:BEBOLD

AussieWikiDan (talk) 09:01, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]


More citations needed[edit]

The following notice has been on the Talgarth Article page fo eleven years now. It is good to see some serious efforts being made recently to rectify this.

Sampajanna (talk) 13:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some further improvements. Dormskirk (talk) 14:06, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]