Talk:Tara McDonald

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Prior edits are not shown[edit]

Prior edits are not shown and appears to be hidden. I cannot find an archive link; why? 1archie99 (talk) 15:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what prior edits might be missing, but the edit history for the article seems to be working. Perhaps you encountered a temporary Wikipedia database problem? Dl2000 (talk) 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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birth place[edit]

at best, her website says it is Dartford, but birth records from England and Wales show nobody with that name born in Dartford. www.genesreunited.co.za/search/results?sourcecategory=life%20events%20(bmds)&collection=births%20utf0026%20baptisms&datasetname=england%20utf0026%20wales%20births%201837-2006&firstname=tara&firstname_variants=true&lastname=mcdonald&birthyear=1988&birth

So what I did is I removed Dartford because the only source is a primary suorce. in 2009 and 2013 I got flack for adding primary sources, so you guys get flack from me for using a primary source too. Find me some more sources save for her websitete that says "i, Tara Jane McDonald was born in Dartford, UK.

thanks.

Andrew Nichols-McDonald — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.55 (talk) 07:22, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1) When you boldly make a change to an article and someone reverts you, it is time to discuss the issue, not edit war. Please see WP:BRD.

2) That you didn't find what you expected to find looking where you looked is not necessarily an indication that another source is wrong, it is an indication that you didn't find what you expected to find.

3) In the overwhelming majority of cases, Wikipedia does not allow the use of primary sources (such as birth certificates) in biographies of living people. Please see WP:BLP. (McDonald's website is not a primary source. Her birth certificate is. Rather, her website is a dependent, self-published source. We can and do use such sources for basic factual information about the subject, with special handling for cases where independent reliable sources discuss some sort of controversy. If John Smith's website says he graduated from Harvard, we say he graduated from Harvard, unless independent reliable sources call it into question.)

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It looks like a lot of policies because it is. Rather than trying to learn all of them at once, discussing the issues on article talk pages as they arise is probably the easiest approach. Someone reverts you and you don't understand why, ask on the talk page. - SummerPhD^v2.0 14:11, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Activist" removed[edit]

The first sentence of the article claimed that McDonald was a singer and an LGBTQ activist. That may or may not be true, but the article did not explain what activism she's involved in. Being an entertainer who sings at a benefit concert or opens a pride parade does not equate in any metric to an "activist" role. As that was the only mentions of anything even slightly related to advocacy, I removed the title unless there can be additional sourcing for what role she plays in activism. Blinkfan (talk) 19:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion[edit]

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Date of birth[edit]

Regarding my edit on 12/09/19 (was unable to sign in) "Was 9 when she received award from Audrey Hepburn in 1988. Cannot have been born in 1987 and got the award in 1996, 3 years after Hepburn died." Is there anyone who can find a source for a birthdate that is useable? rdunn tlak 18:55, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit changed the birth date in the article from 9 September 1987 to 9 September 1979.[1] Your assumptions to do so are tough to follow.

First, the article currently says she was born 9 September 1987. However, this date is unsourced in the infobox and does not occur in the body of the article.

Next, the article seems to say she was 9 when she received the award, but the only source for the paragraph does not give an age.[2] Instead, the source merely says the song is "Winner Of The Danny Kaye Award 1988) - Tara McDonald".

For your birth date, you are adding up an unsourced birth day and month, an unsourced age on an unspecified day and month in 1988.

The solution from what we have is to remove the unsourced information. If we can find reliable sources for any of it later, we can add it back in. If, as sometimes happens, we end up with conflicting information, we don't try to harmonize. Instead, we cite what we have, warts and all. (If, for example, all of the information currently in the article were sourced, we would end up citing two conflicting birth dates.) - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:33, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I understand now! rdunn tlak 17:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]