Talk:Teri Hatcher/Archive 1
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Mango Junior High
Before someone complains that this is an obvious hoax, it seems that it's genuine (NYTimes classmates.com KVUE). It's not surprising - the entire Silicon Valley used to be entirely fruit-growing country, and there are lots of fruit-related placenames there. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was wondering about that. -- MisterHand 00:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- There is Blossom Valley Shopping Center in Mountain View, and Cherry Chase Shopping Center and Cherry Orchard Shopping Center in Sunnyvale, and so on. There are a lot of fruit-related names in the Valley! --Coolcaesar 16:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Ancestry
Moved this here - tha she is "of Italian, Irish, and Native American descent". Neither the IMDB, nor any of the trivia sites that copy it, are reliable. Can anyone prove either this or the English descent thing? Mad Jack O'Lantern 07:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
For that matter, do you have proof of her alleged American Indian heritage other than her claiming it?
- No, but I don't need proof because I'm not putting it in the article (yet). As for proof, Hatcher saying it in a reliable source would consist proof enough, unless an equally or more reliable source disproves it. Mad Jack 00:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Teri Hatcher is part Asian
I tried to add detailed information on her Asian heritage, but Wikipedia removed all of it for unknown reasons. Racism, perhaps, because America's new sweetheart can't be anything but white? Any cursory research can show you that Teri is part Filipino on her mother's side.
- What's your source? There isn't a single reliable source out there that says she is half Filipino. The IMDB's assertion that she's Italian and Irish is also incorrect. The only reliable piece of info about her ancestry is that she's something like 1/16th Cochtaw Native American, something she said on Inside the Actor's studio. Aside from that, there's nothing else vaguely exotic in her family tree. Mad Jack 23:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- We don't actually know she hasn't got Irish, Italian and Filipino ancestry but if she has it hasn't been mentioned in anywhere reliable like an actual interview or biography that can be found on the internet. Arniep 00:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Teri Hatcher's about as American Indian as Shania Twain. I read she was part Filipino in an interview magazine back in the 1990s when she was having her first go-round with fame during the early days of "Lois & Clark" and they were talking about how interesting it was that Lois was part Asian and Clark was part Asian for the latest version of the Superman story. Wish I'd saved the magazine now.
- That sounds quite convincing as Dean Cain does have asian ancestry. Can you remember what magazine it was? Arniep 02:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- It seems quite a widespread belief [1]. Arniep 02:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- I would bet a million dollars that either the magazine made a mistake or the person remembering it remembered wrong. Teri Hatcher fails my Autumn Reeser/Rachel Stevens tests - which is - if you're more or less famous and you have some kind of recent Asian ancestry that you know about, it's mentioned sooner than later in a good source (that's how I know Reeser or Stevens are not part Asian despite what some people think because of their looks). If Hatcher was part Filipino you'd be able to find out about it through a quick Google search. Especially if it had previously been mentioned in a magazine. Also, the message board you linked to claims she is "half Asian" - and being half Asian A. definitely fails the Reeser/Stevens test and B. is obviously not the case considering what we know about her parents' last names Mad Jack 02:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Of course if her ancestors were muslim maybe she'd be nervous about mentioning it? Arniep 02:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Quite possibly. The message board person specifically said that she mentioned "Assyrian" (which is actually not an Arab group though similar). You know, this is all odd to me, because I remember I saw Hatcher's name and face on some kind of DNA/ancestry web site. It had for example people of mediterranean descent (100%) who looked light, or people of 100% Nordic or English descent who looked dark, among them Sean Connery, George Clooney, George Harrison - and mrs. Hatcher. The site contained no other mistakes and it seemed reliable. That's why I've always thought she was 100% Anglo. Of course, apparently she may be 1/16th Native and also part Assyrian, so that changes that picture. Mad Jack 02:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Of course if her ancestors were muslim maybe she'd be nervous about mentioning it? Arniep 02:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- I would bet a million dollars that either the magazine made a mistake or the person remembering it remembered wrong. Teri Hatcher fails my Autumn Reeser/Rachel Stevens tests - which is - if you're more or less famous and you have some kind of recent Asian ancestry that you know about, it's mentioned sooner than later in a good source (that's how I know Reeser or Stevens are not part Asian despite what some people think because of their looks). If Hatcher was part Filipino you'd be able to find out about it through a quick Google search. Especially if it had previously been mentioned in a magazine. Also, the message board you linked to claims she is "half Asian" - and being half Asian A. definitely fails the Reeser/Stevens test and B. is obviously not the case considering what we know about her parents' last names Mad Jack 02:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- It seems quite a widespread belief [1]. Arniep 02:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Why couldn't Teri Hatcher be 1/16th Native American? As for being Italian, neither of her parents have Italian last names. Her mother has the very unusual last name of "Beshur", which is Arabic, and indeed Hatcher said that she "may" have some kind of Assyrian ancestry far back (on "Inside the actor's studio"). In fact, the actor's studio usually goes into any "exotic" ancestry. If she was part Italian - 1/4 at most from the last names - it would have been mentioned. Mad Jack 00:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- It can't be that far back as there are only 2 Beshurs on the SSDI i.e. they must have come from somewhere else recently. Arniep 01:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- I gotta tell you, I haven't seen the actor's studio episode myself. I'm just paraphrasing a report about it on a message board that seemed reliable. Maybe one of us should watch it and add whatever she said to the article. Mad Jack 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Is it online? Bashar and Bashir are names and surnames used by muslims (i.e. Bashar al-Assad, Martin Bashir). Arniep 02:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- According to Ellis Island records an Isbiz Beshur arrived from Soria, Turkey in 1912 aged 22 (the grandfather or great grandfather of Teri?). Arniep 02:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Is it online? Bashar and Bashir are names and surnames used by muslims (i.e. Bashar al-Assad, Martin Bashir). Arniep 02:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- I gotta tell you, I haven't seen the actor's studio episode myself. I'm just paraphrasing a report about it on a message board that seemed reliable. Maybe one of us should watch it and add whatever she said to the article. Mad Jack 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- It can't be that far back as there are only 2 Beshurs on the SSDI i.e. they must have come from somewhere else recently. Arniep 01:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Why couldn't Teri Hatcher be 1/16th Native American? As for being Italian, neither of her parents have Italian last names. Her mother has the very unusual last name of "Beshur", which is Arabic, and indeed Hatcher said that she "may" have some kind of Assyrian ancestry far back (on "Inside the actor's studio"). In fact, the actor's studio usually goes into any "exotic" ancestry. If she was part Italian - 1/4 at most from the last names - it would have been mentioned. Mad Jack 00:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe someone here, here, or here might know more/have the video? Arniep 02:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- The Lois and Clark forums seem the most active- they also seem to be totally confused about her heritage- with Greek, Armenian and Israeli mentioned (Armenian a possibility?). Arniep 03:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, you usually get a varied batch of possible ethnicities for "dark looking" people on forums. Mostly speculation. Back in the day, Jewhoo said that Hatcher was not Jewish (although her husband, Jon Tenney, was) so you can rule "Israeli" out. I think, like I said before, that all she is 1/16th native and a little Assyrian. All we really need to do is get a transcript or video of that actor's studio thing and add/source it. Mad Jack 03:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Do you know how to use BitTorrent? It's 349 MB here [2]. Arniep 04:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- I may well be able to load the video, but it A. says I must register first, which is fine, except for B. it says registration is currently closed! and will open on Friday.... so I guess it's a dead end until then Mad Jack 04:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Do you know how to use BitTorrent? It's 349 MB here [2]. Arniep 04:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, you usually get a varied batch of possible ethnicities for "dark looking" people on forums. Mostly speculation. Back in the day, Jewhoo said that Hatcher was not Jewish (although her husband, Jon Tenney, was) so you can rule "Israeli" out. I think, like I said before, that all she is 1/16th native and a little Assyrian. All we really need to do is get a transcript or video of that actor's studio thing and add/source it. Mad Jack 03:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- The Lois and Clark forums seem the most active- they also seem to be totally confused about her heritage- with Greek, Armenian and Israeli mentioned (Armenian a possibility?). Arniep 03:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Many families/people "change" their heritage either out of shame or embarrassment or denial. There are many otherwise "white" Americans who fly off the handle if the possibility of a black ancestor is brought up. I myself have known a Chinese-Filipino person who claimed to be 100% Chinese despite the fact that her mother was Filipino and made no bones about it. I've known many Arabic or partly Arabic people who suddenly became Italian or Mediterranean, partly due to the political climate. Lotsa Arab-Americans suddenly became "Tony." Teri Hatcher's "maybe Assyrian" heritage reminds me of these people. Oh, and no one is 100% anything despite what they'd like to believe. If they were, they'd have all the recessive traits of the group and would die in a week from immune-system deficiencies.
Picture
Why have we got a crappy photo that is 12 years old. That's not the person who most people recognise as Teri Hatcher. 80.41.118.25 19:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Bad Links
I've removed the first two external links for the following reasons.
The link shown as "official" website at fancorner.org is actually presenting a lindsay lohan page, so it's clearly not a link to an "official" (i.e. endorsed by the celebrity concerned) teri hatcher website.
The "official" forum also links to fancorner.org, and for the reasons stated above I don't believe that fancorner.org is an "official" teri hatcher website.
DMcMPO11AAUK 08:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Link not working anymore.
"Stone pleaded guilty to four counts of molestation and was sentenced to 14 years in prison.[1]" The link after this line leads to a page on a website who's format has been changed and the information has either been relocated or delted... What should we do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bifgis (talk • contribs) 01:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
I've replaced the faulty link with a BBC report of the Vanity Fair interview in 2006 that covers the abuse episode, I can't find any direct reports of the court case.
DMcMPO11AAUK 09:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
POV
"Co-starring with Dean Cain as Superman/Clark Kent in the series, her portrayal of the character is widely regarded as the best to date" This isn't sourced (the "her portrayal is best to date" part), so I'm taking it out. Even if it did appear somewhere, I still think it's not NPOV. Lmr5069 (talk) 22:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Picture
That picture of Teri is SO OLD...can someone find a new one? It's not really s good pic either. I'm Kinda Awesome... 19:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
No, get an even older one. Damn, this woman's had some gruesome plastic surgery.
I agree. The picture of her is far nicer than she looks nowadays. Far too much surgery and the body of a rake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.209.61 (talk) 20:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Nude appearance in Heaven's Prisoners
In the movie Heaven's Prisoners, when we first see her character she is standing full-front nude on a balcony. Does anybody know if Teri Hatcher actually appeared nude, or was that a body double? 140.147.160.78 14:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
That is her. Some editors are trying to keep this out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.130.129 (talk) 01:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Birthplace
Covina (as it says in the article) or Palo Alto (as it says in the infobox)? (John User:Jwy talk) 08:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- Holy wow, can't believe this went unfixed for so long... it's definitely Palo Alto, and was falsely changed to Covina way back on October 19 in what was likely vandalism by an anon who had no prior edits and has not been back since. They also changed the age of her molester's other victim, which can be confirmed in the Vanity Fair reference. I've gone ahead and repaired the bad info. – (UTC)
Teri's height
Settle a disagreement- what height is Teri Hatcher? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.15.83.130 (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Vanity Fair
The caption "Hatcher on the cover of Vanity Fair in which she tells about the incest with her uncle" isn't quite accurate. I don't think that "incest" is the best word to describe the situation of her uncle molesting her as a young girl (5 or so...).
Doesn't "incest" imply that it was consensual? I should think "sexually molested by her uncle" would be more accurate.
Agree. That douche was her aunt`s husband. And she was abused. "Incest" sounds terrible. inappropriate and wrong at all. That looks like you blame her or call her promiscuous. Disgusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.27.249.70 (talk) 03:40, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Child abuse court
Teri`s great. She`s so brave. She`ve lost a lot but she helped to bring justice and saved someone`s life. We should be thankful there are people like her. Thank you, Teri. God bless you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.27.249.70 (talk) 03:46, 7 August 2013 (UTC)