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Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2016 - Updated visitdallas.com website backlinks

The Dallas Convention & Visitors Center has recently updated their website resulting in two broken links on this page.

Could you please update the following links?

=== Arts === Section Founded in 1892, Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth, also called "The Modern", is Texas's oldest art museum. Fort Worth also has the Kimbell Art Museum, the Amon Carter Museum, the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame, the Will Rogers Memorial Center, and the Bass Performance Hall downtown. The Arts District of Downtown Dallas has arts venues such as the Dallas Museum of Art, the Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center, the Margot and Bill Winspear Opera House, the Trammell & Margaret Crow Collection of Asian Art, and the Nasher Sculpture Center.[1]

Updated link to visitdallas.com website to - http://www.visitdallas.com/things-to-do/arts/index.html

=== Commerce === Section Texas's affluence stimulates a strong commercial sector consisting of retail, wholesale, banking and insurance, and construction industries. Examples of Fortune 500 companies not based on Texas traditional industries are AT&T, Kimberly-Clark, Blockbuster, J. C. Penney, Whole Foods Market, and Tenet Healthcare.[2] Nationally, the Dallas–Fort Worth area, home to the second shopping mall in the United States, has the most shopping malls per capita of any American metropolitan area.[3]

Updated link to visitdallas.com website to - http://www.visitdallas.com/things-to-do/shopping/index.html

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks, Bryan Kreitz bryan@bridgepose.com

Bdkreitz (talk) 17:59, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Done st170etalk 14:29, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Dallas Arts District". Dallas Convention & Visitors Bureau. Retrieved May 29, 2008.
  2. ^ "Texas". Fortune Magazine. April 30, 2007. Retrieved May 3, 2008.
  3. ^ "Dallas Shopping" (PDF). Dallas Convention & Visitors Bureau. Retrieved February 20, 2008. [dead link]

Later history of Texas

The history of Texas after about 1950 seems to be a bit of a blurb. I'm pretty sure that Texas has seen more than the death of John F. Kennedy and two floods in Houston, but I don't know where to start. The Waco siege is probably important, as is the rise of technology companies like Texas Instruments and Dell and the presidencies of Lyndon Baines Johnson and the two George Bushes, but I don't know where to go from there. If someone with more experience could assist with that, that would be great. --XndrK (talk | contribs) 01:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Texas

Texas is an awesome state and it is the biggest state and it has a lot of cowboys and it is known for it's rodeos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camogirl15 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

That's true. One of the biggest youth programs in Texas if the FFA (Future Farmers of America). I can't tell if they have more farmers or cowboys. MicronesianHelper2016 (talk) 20:13, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Link to Maternal Health in Texas

Hello! I am a student enrolled in a Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities class at Rice University, and I am currently working on creating a Maternal Health in Texas article. I have noticed that there is no article detailing this topic, although the state of maternal health and maternal deaths in Texas have often been compared to those of a "third world" country. While maternal healthcare in Texas is a topic of much discussion on news and media outlets, there is a collection of unorganized and unfiltered information that would be of better use to the public if presented coherently. This new article “Maternal Health in Texas” would thus provide readers with the data and content that would allow them to understand health care policy and services and potential factors contributing to the excessive number of maternal deaths in the state. I am hoping to place this under the Texas article as the topic is a significant one involving political, social, economic, and health factors in Texas. If you would like to see the article, please feel free to my sandbox: User:SBanda/sandbox. I would appreciate your thoughts on this article being placed under "Texas." Thank you! SBanda (talk) 03:00, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

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Incomplete "history" section

The Texas history section only goes up to the assassination of JFK, and it omits the period of major economic transformation and growth that the state experienced immediately his death. Also, the history section does not mention the Sun Belt, which is an important part of recent Texas history (but history nonetheless). The sections on more recent history look very different than here, for the worse. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:11, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2017

under TEXAS / Climate / 'Average daily maximum and minimum temperatures for selected cities in Texas' Table, in the column of "August(°F)" change the max/min values for 'Brownsville' FROM "94/24" TO "94/76" (It does not average below freezing at Brownsville for August minimum daily temperature, at least not in recorded history) Refer to the cited reference Table for validation. 199.158.160.223 (talk) 16:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Done - thank you. Looks like °C was correct, just a typo in F. I can only imagine what would happen to the city if they had an August like that. Kuru (talk) 16:57, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2017

Please remove

As of 2010 it shares the top of the list of the most Fortune 500 companies with California at 57.[1]

And replace with

As of 2015, it ranks second in the nation for the most Fortune 500 companies, with 54.[2]

To update Fortune 500 ranking with more current statistics. Rpayne210 (talk) 20:32, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Done —MRD2014 📞 contribs 01:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ CNN.com, Retrieved November 2010.
  2. ^ [1], Retrieved March 2017.

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Invisible link redirect

Someone vandalized the page, where anywhere uoi click redirects you to a youtuber by the name of this guy. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_waCFCtUJpkkUxftNCbOBA The invisible image's URL is "en.wikipedia.org##IMG[src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Empty48x48.png"]"

Thanks --Zgrillo2004 (talk) 03:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Texas Wikipedia Page links to a YouTube video.

None of the links in the article are working; they all point to the same YouTube video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.10.107 (talk) 06:06, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2017

Under the sports category, it needs to say that Texas has two WNBA teams. The current version of the article only mentions San Antonio and does not mention the Dallas Wings. Tested1 (talk) 00:35, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Done Nihlus 19:15, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Style

How about a writer who speaks English?

"Texas has 254 counties--the most nationwide."

NATIONWIDE?

How about "the most of any state"?

Lord have mercy . . . and you guys have the nerve to pander for MONEY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:581:302:FB9B:B883:2465:177C:BB62 (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2018

make sure that it is clearly STATED (dont mind the pun) that Texas is unanimous the best state. Elijad (talk) 04:50, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 08:39, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2018

These are suggested changes to the DEMOGRAPHICS section of the TEXAS page.

The first 6 paragraphs in the DEMOGRAPHICS section, before ETHNICITY, makes numerous references to "illegals" and "illegal immigrants." These terms should be changed to "undocumented immigrants" or "immigrants with no legal status." These changes should be made because it is incorrect and the language is confusing and unclear. It is not clear what "illegals" means, does that mean criminal aliens (people who have been deported previously and then returned, which is a crime?). Entering the country without documents is a civil enforcement matter. It would be the same as calling people that are driving without a license or those who have gotten a ticket for going above the speed limit and calling them "illegal drivers." The term is over-broad and unspecific.

Someone may cross the border illegally but that does not make them illegal. Again, the term "undocumented immigrant" or "immigrants without legal status" or "immigrants who crossed the border illegally" provides more clarification and is more factually correct, and less politically-charged, than the term "illegal."

Finally, the fact that this is the first thing that the Demographics section refers to also hints to this writing being biased. Dabudstur (talk) 23:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Partly done: Changed one instance of "illegals" to "illegal immigrants". – by AdA&D at 16:52, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. The use of illegalversus undocumented in Wikipedia articles is a long-standing source of debate (see, e.g., this discussion) and so changing this is outside the scope of individual edit requests. Please open a separate discussion here to that a consensus among editors can be formed as to the correct usage for this article. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2018

texas is to big fam Macktruck2005 (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:40, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2018

Please revert this edit as it added data whose source is GitHub. GitHub is not a reliable source of data for presidential elections. 32.218.38.18 (talk) 17:50, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

The graphic points back to source files staged on GitHub. The files themselves indicate Townhall.com and the Guardian as sources. A quick glance at the graphic seems to match the original cites (at least for the large counties). Was there something specific that seemed amiss, or was it just the GitHub issue? Kuru (talk) 18:10, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
1. Townhall.com is an avowedly conservative website, so its assertions should be taken with a grain of salt (see: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 23# http://townhall.com/); 2. The data seem to have gone through four transformations: Townhall.com > Guardian > GitHub > Wikipedia graphic. Who knows what went on in each of those transformations? That's the very epitome of original research. 32.218.38.18 (talk) 18:41, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 Done The IP editor is correct that this is WP:OR based on the source given for the image. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


edit request for the Texas Revolution

Texas was not the only Mexican province to rebel. Yucatan also did and so did Tabasco. Several other battles were fought within Mexico to suppress rebellion against Santa Anna's dictatorship. This should be discussed to get an accurate and more objective view of the causes of the Texas Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_L%C3%B3pez_de_Santa_Anna#Santa_Anna_and_the_Central_Republic,_1835

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucat%C3%A1n#Republic_of_Yucat%C3%A1n

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Yucat%C3%A1n#Santa_Anna%27s_coup_and_the_Mexican_rapprochement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2610:20:2008:100:0:0:100:4 (talk) 13:07, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2018

This margin existed until Laurasia and Gondwana [parts of [Pangaea]]collided in the Battlelance279 (talk) 06:23, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

It's not clear what change you're proposing to make - alter that sentence in that way would not make sense. Kuru (talk) 12:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2018

The Education section lists the University of North Texas as a Tier 2 Research University, but it is now a Tier 1 Research University. Please update this listing to reflect UNT's Tier 1 status. 129.120.162.80 (talk) 14:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:21, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2018

improve the map 110.20.213.249 (talk) 12:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done - which Copyright-free map do you think should be added? - Arjayay (talk) 12:57, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2018

The name Tejano is not Spanish and all references that Mexicans or Spaniards use that term is invalid. It's a Caddo (Native American) word. Please remove references that only Spanish speaking use that term. Thank You. 108.89.222.57 (talk) 01:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

I can find no mention of the term's origin in the article, nor do I see where there is a claim that it is only used by Spanish speakers. Can you be more specific on what you are proposing to change? Kuru (talk) 01:59, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2018

{{edit semi-protected|Texas|answered=yes} I have been trying to update the scientific names for lightning whelks (Sinistrofulgur sp.) on Wikipedia, as many articles still refer to them as species of Busycon. This is no longer accurate according to the World Register of Marine Species. Please change Busycon perversum pulleyi to Sinistrofungur perversum pulleyi. 72.44.103.182 (talk) 15:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: The requested text was not found in the article. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:59, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Spelling error

Individual is spelled incorrectly in the last paragraph of the intro ("induvidual"). Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.163.126.99 (talk) 14:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. Kuru (talk) 14:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2018

umm, could you check the spelling of Texas. Pandacatpower (talk) 15:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be more specific, i.e. where/how is it misspelled? —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2020

The first paragraph of this article states 

'''Texas''' ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|t|ɛ|k|s|ə|s}}, {{IPAc-en|local|ˈ|t|ɛ|k|s|ɪ|z}};<ref>{{Accents of English|551|hide1=y|hide2=y}}</ref> {{lang-es|Texas}} or ''Tejas'' {{IPA-es|ˈtexas|-|ES-pe - Texas.ogg}}) is the second largest [[U.S. state|state]] in the [[United States]] by both [[List of U.S. states and territories by area|area]] and [[List of U.S. states and territories by population|population]], right behind [[Alaska]].

This implies that Alaska is the most populous state. I request that this be changed to read 

'''Texas''' ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|t|ɛ|k|s|ə|s}}, {{IPAc-en|local|ˈ|t|ɛ|k|s|ɪ|z}};<ref>{{Accents of English|551|hide1=y|hide2=y}}</ref> {{lang-es|Texas}} or ''Tejas'' {{IPA-es|ˈtexas|-|ES-pe - Texas.ogg}}) is the second largest [[U.S. state|state]] in the [[United States]] by both [[List of U.S. states and territories by area|area]] and [[List of U.S. states and territories by population|population]], right behind [[Alaska]] and [[California]] respectively.
 Done – Þjarkur (talk) 21:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Revisions

I am planning on working on adding a "Health" section to this article. The current "Healthcare" section covers topics that do not actually concern healthcare, including Maternal Mortality and Obesity. These two topics, amongst others, belong in a separate health section. In addition to these topics, I want to research and cover tobacco use, alcohol use, and infant health. There are a variety of health topics that can be added to this, but I think this is a good place to start. I would appreciate any and all feedback. Aminawilliams (talk) 00:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

For more information on the changes I plan to make and the sources I plan to use, please check out my sandbox. Aminawilliams (talk) 16:27, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

I've began making revisions in the Health section. I added a subsection about alcohol use and included information on recent legislation as well. If you are interested in seeing more of my planned contributions for this article, please look at my sandbox. Aminawilliams (talk) 03:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for tackling various aspects of healthcare in Texas! What I enjoyed most about your contribution is that you didn't just highlight health problems in Texas, but also discussed potential ways of addressing those health issues. I feel like that's effective as you can present a full picture of what the issue is and what people are mobilizing to do to change it. Your sources for this piece are all fairly strong and bring a robust picture of Health in Texas through statistics and data. I identified a few areas that you could possibly address to improve this contribution: article structure, content, and links. For structure, I think it would be great to look at the headers you use, all of your ones on Obesity use the same size header and could be resized to make most sense in the context of the article. Also concerning structure, you have many sections for Obesity and not many for Alcohol Use, potentially consider adding more sections. For content, I wish you would add a lead to your discussion of health issues in Texas because I think you jump write into health issues without prefacing. It seems like a strange way to start off the Healthcare in Texas section to only discuss problems. Finally with links, I think it would be good to link more wiki pages in your contribution. Overall, great work! Wickersong (talk) 01:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Healthcare in Texas has its host of issues and I think you do a great job of addressing them with refined sources. I was particularly impressed with all of the data you gleaned from various sources to highlight the issues in Texas. Like Wickersong, I also thought it could be appropriate to put all of the obesity-related discussions into one section so there is not an overemphasis on obesity. I think your section could benefit from more images, perhaps graphs of various mortalities. I also believe an introduction to your discussion on healthcare in Texas could prime the reader for what is to come. Sgorantla (talk) 03:50, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

  • @Aminawilliams, Wickersong, and Sgorantla: - thanks for working and looking at this! One suggestion is to pull this into a separate article. At a high-level article like this, we like to stick to WP:SUMMARY style so readers can get a really quick gist of something, then click into a child article for more information. This article is a bit larger than is ideal (see WP:SIZE). II | (t - c) 10:53, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Caption of photo in Colonization section

The caption says the photo shows "the six nations" that have ruled over Texas ... but in the photo, there are two Texas state flags and no Confederate flag. Should the caption reflect this? As written, it is inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodicompton (talk • contribs) 18:18, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

This flag is in the picture ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Flag of the Confederate States of America (March 1861 – May 1861)

Wildlife section error

Says ~60 species of mammals, is much higher than that. Would propose changing to "141 species of native terrestrial mammals, a number exceeded in the United States only by California and New Mexico. In addition to the native species that occur in the area naturally, there are also 12 exotics or nonnative species that have been introduced accidentally (house mouse, roof rat, Norway rat) or intentionally (nutria, red fox, feral pig, axis deer, fallow deer, sika deer, nilgai, barbary sheep, and blackbuck) by man and have become established as a part of the freeliving fauna." But page is semi-protected. http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/txmammal.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollasboy (talk • contribs) 16:03, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Healthcare in Texas

I copied the healthcare section to the Healthcare in Texas page. For a page that is supposed to be an overview of the whole state of Texas, the current healthcare section seems excessively long. Obesity treatment is pretty much the same in Texas as it is in Florida. Are there any suggestions on what I should cut, or should I leave everything here. Oldag07 (talk) 17:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I can see most of the expanded healthcare section was made by the user Aminawilliams. I have preserved her hard work in the Healthcare of Texas page. However, for a page, that is about the topic Texas as a whole, the healthcare section should not be larger than the culture and the higher education section combined. Nor do facts like Obesity prevention belong on this page. As mentioned above, "Obesity treatment is pretty much the same in Texas as it is in Florida". Yes, it is an important topic. That is why I moved the information to the healthcare page. Oldag07 (talk) 13:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2020

In the section on greenhouse gases, in eeh first sentence, I would remove the phrase ", the second most polluting state" because CO2 is not a polutant. It is a natural part of the atmosphere emitted by every living organism on earth, and if it were absent from the atmosphere all life would cease. The deleted phrase does not detract from the essential meaning of the sentence, and adds nothing to it if left in place. The reason for the addition of the phrase is a political one, not a scientific or factual one. Billonesty (talk) 16:31, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:51, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
@Deacon Vorbis: Can you explain why? That statement seems to violate NPOV. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Bad taste?

Would adding

In 1994 ''The Economist'' published the oft-repeated claim that Texas anti-Alaska politicians were told "we'll divide Alaska in two, and Texas will have to be satisfied with being number three."<ref>{{cite magazine |magazine=[[The Economist]] |page=8 |title=Statesmanship |author=P. Wesel}}</ref><ref>{{cite newspaper |newspaper=[[The Palm Beach Post]] |url=https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/130660833 |quote=We'll split Alaska in two and make Texas the third largest state |title=Quote |date=March 23, 1983}}</ref>
with an edit summary
This is not TEXAN FARMER "I can get in my jeep and ride all day and not reach the boundary fence" and the RHODE ISLANDER's "I once had a car like that too"
be in bad taste? Pi314m (talk) 04:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: By a vote of 13 to 11, with 3 abstentions, the Board of Directors has authorized the Recording Secretary to purchase and mail a Get-well card to the former Chairman of the Board. Pi314m (talk) 05:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
@Pi314m: No. At most, this might belong somewhere in Mark White's article, but it certainly doesn't belong here. Please don't add it again. Best —DoRD (talk)​ 22:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Importance

The matter of Texas self-perception/self-importance is not something to question, it's just a matter of how and where to present. Not for the lead/lede? Why not, after all this is the state that was a country! All it lacks is a "George Washington slept here" house, and with the fact that buildings have been moved before, even this minor lack can be remedied.

The Rhode Island car comment comes from a somewhat not too tall politician speaking in the Northeast when running against others who were not as height challenged. It cam in the middle of some give-and-take when people were trying to do accents - I can't say it was a Texas Twang, but some type of accent imitation it was. All of this was reported. The Economist has the advantage of not being a Northeast, Southwest, of even North American periodical. Pi314m (talk) 22:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Please get consensus for your changes, Thank you. –Davey2010Talk 23:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Pi314m, as I noted above, the remark was made by Governor White, and it reflected more on him than it did the state. In addition, the Palm Beach Post article you linked does not mention The Economist at all. At any rate, your edit does not belong anywhere in this article. —DoRD (talk)​ 00:16, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

information Administrator note Pi314m, you are not to add the Texas self-importance bit until you are able to secure consensus for it. Further edit warring on your part to reinsert it will be met by sanctions. El_C 23:23, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Accepted

I accept that it's up to someone else, if they choose, to add this material to Texas.

Please note: the Palm Beach Post article is from 1983; The Economist citation is 1994. As for the entire matter of Texas and self-importance,

here's a small possible lead: https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/19/us/transcript-of-the-keynote-address-by-ann-richards-the-texas-treasurer.html mentions "where I grew up there wasn't much tolerance for self-importance — people who put on airs ... a little community (SIC) just outside Waco" and compares this to another candidate with "a more remarkable sense of what is really important."

Is any of this important to Wikipedia? The "Texas self-perception" subtitle already has a place (under Culture).

If someone sees the Alaska episode as having importance, then it will be added. Per above, I accept. Pi314m (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I noticed that my citation of the Texas/Alaska The Economist item lacked the complete date: November 26, 1994. My acceptance still stands. Pi314m (talk) 22:47, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2020

The sentence that starts "After the Civil War and the restoration of its representation in the federal government," Is unclear and not specific enough. I suggest "After the American Civil War and the restoration of its representation in the U.S. federal government," This makes it more clear to the reader. Barry1800 (talk) 15:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's clear in context; if it even needs to be said, it's in the previous sentence already. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2020

The infobox square kilometer conversions of the square miles is incorrect. It should be the following:

  • area_total_km2 = 695,621
  • area_land_km2 = 678,05
  • area_water_km2 = 17,570 76.185.125.81 (talk) 02:37, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 Done — Tartan357 (Talk) 03:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Note: I adjusted this a little more; the miles did not match the given source (Texas Almanac). These also matched the USGS. These don't convert perfectly into the KMs - I jsut went with the USGS conversions. Presumably there is a fractional square mile rounded. Not clear where those base numbers got mixed up - they appear to have been hidden in the infobox for a long time. Kuru (talk) 03:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2020

TYPO "Texas politics today" "Austin, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio consistently lean Democratic"

Change Democratic to Democrat 107.77.213.126 (talk) 02:11, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Nah, I don't think it's a typo and I don't think changing it would be a meaningful improvement; using the noun form ("Democrat") seems bad anyway since it is after all the "Democratic party"; same way you don't say that some place leans "Republic" but rather "Republican" (which is really an adjective)... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2020

Texas isn't an economy. Please change 

If Texas were a sovereign state, it would be the 10th largest economy in the world.

to 

If Texas were a sovereign state, it would have the 10th largest economy in the world.

or 

If Texas were a sovereign state, its economy would be the world's 10th largest. 64.203.187.97 (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 Done —KuyaBriBriTalk 19:21, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2020

Change "Mormon" to "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" 141.158.221.164 (talk) 17:05, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

This is the common name of the religion itself rather than of just the church (as mentioned in Mormonism/Mormons) – Thjarkur (talk) 20:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Recent edits

Thank you to User:TheLionHasSeen for your large-scale restructuring of the article. I'm concerned that a lot of demographic information has been added using sources other than the US census. The image sizes, which are typically 220px, have also been altered. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Magnolia677. I am greatly humbled by your praise. I am going to correct the following issues as soon as humanly possible. Might I also add browsing through the demographic citations, some use information and credit the U.S. Census Bureau for their statistics. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 22:20, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
@TheLionHasSeen: Typically, the census is used for demographics (although Texas isn't a city, see WP:USCITIES). Magnolia677 (talk) 22:27, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Magnolia677, noted. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 22:31, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2021

58.145.189.243 (talk) 11:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
You must indicate what you would like to add or change in the article. Kuru (talk) 13:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

"Texas politics today" typo

Austin, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio consistently lean Democratic (typo. should be Democrat)

Higher education in Texas

Emerging Research University is a "Texas thing". Confusing is that the eligibility to the National Research University Fund is conditioned by the Emerging Research University status.

According to the same THECB classifications, in Texas Research Universities are only Texas A&M University and its Agencies and The University of Texas at Austin.

Please see Draft:Texas Research Initiatives (and maybe you can improve it), as well as the THECB reports linked below [1], [2].

References

  1. ^ http://www.thecb.state.tx.us/DocID/PDF/10628.PDF
  2. ^ https://www.highered.texas.gov/institutional-resources-programs/public-universities-health-related-institutions/research-funding-in-texas/national-research-university-fund-nruf/

Lack of objectivity

The history section is inobjective contains a lot of false/racist terminology, e.g. giving the population number only of white people as if the native ones weren't people, calling the Hispanic settlers natives etc. It requires reedition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.160.77.35 (talk) 11:08, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

The phrase "white people" doesn't exist in the article. Could you narrow down the location of the problems? | Uncle Milty | talk | 14:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I believe that unsigned contributor needs to do a little more reading on the history and relations of the term "race", "white", and Natives and Hispanics. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 16:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Undue weight in history section

There is undue weight on COVID-19 and the governors response. COVID should have a relatively brief mention in the history section, not a long paragraph with trivial information. The history section is for the uppermost information, like independence. I believe it should be shortened to about 2 sentences, and the governor response shouldn't be mentioned. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 05:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Then let us discuss. The information pertaining to re-opening may be agreeably regarded as trivial after the first, however the governor's response should be mentioned as it is a critical event pertaining to the rise of cases among other issues. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 05:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Re-openign is definitely trivial. The governors action is also trivial because it's not relevant to Texas history, if you want to talk about the governors response go talk about it all day at COVID-19 pandemic in Texas. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 01:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

The long paragraph about the power outage is giving undue weight to the subject. It probably needs to be removed entirely since it has little to do with broad Texas history, you don't see us discussing every hurricane in the history section. At the very least everything after 2nd sentence should be removed. Saying 3 million lost power is just trivial not important. Ted Cruz fleeing to Cancun, AOC raising some money, and Beto making some phone calls couldn't be less relevant to broad Texas history. Firstly, that's all WP:RECENTISM, should barely even have mention on their own Wikipedia pages much less Texas history. Right now the sentence talking about them is giving their actions equal weight to the Battle of the Alamo which also only has one sentence in the history section. Another thing is that sentence violates WP:NPOV since it only serves to make Cruz look bad and AOC and Beto look good. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 02:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I also removed the Dallas shooting since it also is WP:RECENTISM and is not relevant to broad Texas history. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 02:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

The actions of the governor in the midst of a global pandemic in the twenty-first century should not be deemed irrelevant to Texas history. It is known without a doubt that executive leadership shall have precedence within the history textbooks of tomorrow, particularly their actions during such a pandemic (which from ten years will assuredly, again, be in the textbooks of tomorrow). Next, it does pertain to broader Texas history as it pertains to its typical historical precedent of anti-federal regulatory governance and culture, which are definitely going to be discussed in the now-syncretic political climate of that state via political classes. In addition, one cannot allege it being against WP:NPOV because they establish they do not attack anyone, neither are they unverifiable claims. An issue similar to this has occurred with the article J. Delano Ellis as it appeared information attacked them, yet it was verifiable information others simply didn't like or deem appropriate for Wikipedia, solely because their apparent favorite leadership was not praised through the whole article like typical propaganda pieces or affiliated websites to them; also, personally writing, Cruz made himself look bad with this in national press, not Wikipedia. The Dallas shooting should be deemed relevant to broad Texas history as well as a critical yet dangerous response to police brutality, which sparked further debate such as evidenced in this article, yet it can be left out in contrast with these pandemic and snow-storm related debacles. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 06:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh, and another word: please watch your WP:Civility, as responding to this I felt a spirit of condescension with the initial response to mine. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 06:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Ok, there's a lot unpack here. The history section is not supposed to be a place to detail every action by the executive leadership. We don't go into detail about any executive leader in the broad Texas. I think the virus itself is sort of notable for inclusion. I've said before there is a place to mention all those things the governor did, it's just right here in the history section. Your argument about NPOV is fair, I'm not gonna dig into that because it's not really worth a discussion. You didn't really comment on the Cruz comment being undue, so I'll just clarify, my problem with the sentence about Cruz, AOC, and Beto is that in 200yrs it will never be brought and is has nothing to with Texas history. It's just not relevant enough. The winter storm like the Dallas shooting is just WP:RECENTISM, we don't mention anything about Hurricane Ike or any other natural disaster, and certainly not how a congresswoman from a different state reacted to it. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 22:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I understand and agree your reasoning. The Cruz issue is however one conundrum of great confusion, I'd respond. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 23:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
So if you agree then what are you wanting done here different? Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 05:57, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Your information has enlightened me on the removal of the Abbot and Cruz statements. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 06:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Do you agree we should remove the winter storm? Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 06:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I would have to disagree with that. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 16:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
You are going to need to explain how it's notable to broad Texas history. Most of the things we see in the section are broad like Californians moving to Texas or the oil industry, not WP:RECENTISM like natural disasters. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 05:18, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Then shall this be in the weather section for historic weather events pertaining to winter, now that I think about it? - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 15:35, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
No it shouldn't be, it should be a section about Texas history. Weather events, especially if they don't cause lasting change or are just really significant like the hurricane that hit Galveston in 1900, aren't notable for inclusion. Having a section on historic weather event's on the Texas wikipedia would be really weird and unprecedented. I would oppose it because such a section would give WP:UNDUE weight to weather events. If you want to create an article about "historic weather events in Texas" that would be pretty neat, and we could link it maybe in the climate section, but a section on this article is not warranted. The winter storm is just not very important. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 06:02, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

History section too specific

"Senator Ted Cruz came under scrutiny when it was released that his family traveled to Mexico during Winter Storm Uri.[149][150] Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and Beto O'Rourke began efforts to raise money and goods for Texans in the storm.[151]" should not be included in the history section. This is so minor relative to Texas' history, and even a little politically biased. These two sentences are not needed and should be removed. NorfolkIsland123 (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

NorfolkIsland123, All that and more is being discussed above. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 02:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
This contributor appears to be pushing a WP:Agenda of White supremacy as evidenced by their contribution history, targeting anything that goes against racial viewpoints of theirs, in particular. Please investigate further Iamreallygoodatcheckers. If it looks and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Take a look at their contribution for the Parler page as further confirmation. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 05:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
TheLionHasSeen your comments about NorfolkIsland123 are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia or any where for that matter. When I looked at his supposed "contribution history, targeting anything that goes against racial viewpoints of theirs" that you used as evidence of white supremacy, I expected something serious to be there. All he did was post on a talk page saying that an article needs protection and has a NPOV issue. None of that indicates him being a white supremacist. I even checked around his contribution history, nothing I saw. For you to say that was unwarranted, unsubstantiated, damaging, and an immoral attack on NorfolkIsland123's character. You claim I'm in violation of WP:CIVIL because you don't like my tone, but you the audacity to label NorfolkIsland123 with a term that has ruined peoples lives. You have violated Wikipedia:No personal attacks. I regularly discuss controversial topics and have never seen anyone doing anything of this nature. You need to give NorfolkIsland123 an apology and remove that hurtful damaging comment. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 06:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
For your sake and recommendation, I just may recant. But, observing the contents of the following contributor at hand in detail, in contrast with what appears to be a lackluster investigation, one can determine again that it appears (notice the terminology in bold), they are committing a WP:AGENDA on the basis of conservative and racially-charged principles, in what appears to be an attempt to rewrite articles or erase anything which makes their particular and publicly politically biased character seem negative, though it is WP:verifiable. In addition, it also appears to be such due to attempts to remove verifiable information pertaining to the phenomenon of "white women calling police on black men" which were not accepted, alongside what appears to be a rant in accordance with the Don Lemon controversy pertaining to his statements on white supremacists as the context was forgone. It can currently be observed at Talk:Don Lemon. Quotes were partially given in their defense when utilizing additional sources, it can be determined Don Lemon's statement was not "anti white" in general. The sources from Newsweek and USA Today may be read here. These are not alternative media sources for the left or right, which further guarantees little political commentary, in contrast with what CNN or Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax may have published as a response to this. Quoting the text, that its full context may be witnessed, Lemon clarified, "We have to stop demonizing people and realize that the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." Finally, in personal defense, notice the terms appear again over verbatim determining them as a white supremacist. Seeking to argue with the quack statement, that is saying one may allege without determining them, until verifiable evidence can be presented. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 07:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
PS: Also, I recommend you take a read at this article for further research purposes: How White Supremacists Use Victimhood to Recruit, published by The Atlantic, as the article also submits things that appear from within such communities as well: "The group’s newsletter, the NAAWP News, ran items with headlines such as "Anti-White Discrimination Accelerates,” Berbrier notes. Today, this sentiment survives as the myth that affirmative action, for instance, constitutes “reverse racism.". - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


I am not a white supremacist and I am disgusted by the fact that you have called me a white supremacist. Like all people with a brain of their own, I do have biases. I try to negate these biases, but sometimes they may be seen through my editing. I'll give you that I am slightly biased to the right, but that is no justification for you to call me a white supremacist. I strongly denounce the sickening idea of white supremacy, or any other sick type of racial, ethnic, religious, etc. supremacy. Please apologize and we can leave this behind us. Thank you. NorfolkIsland123 (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Spanish pronunciation of "Texas"

The modern-day state of Texas is derived entirely from the Centralist Republic of Mexico; specifically from parts of Coahuila y Tejas, Tamaulipas, Chihuahua, and Santa Fe de Nuevo México. The history being such, it seems the Spanish pronunciation (Spanish: Texas or Tejas, pronounced [ˈtexas] ⓘ) should be relevant, just as it is in the case of New Mexico and Florida. DiverDave (talk) 03:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Fortune 500 companies in Texas

The opener says that Texas has the 2nd most Fortune 500 companies; however I believe as of 2021 Texas is tied with California. Wouldn't that be pertinent information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viktory02 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't think the annual list is published until May for FY2020. Kuru (talk) 17:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Pre-European edit request

The first sentence of the second paragraph is: "When Europeans arrived in the Texas region, there were several races of Native peoples divided into many smaller tribes. They were Caddoan, Atakapan, Athabaskan, Coahuiltecan, and Uto-Aztecan."

This is factually incorrect, the individual tribes of indigenous peoples in Texas are of a singular race with multiple cultures. The standard race would be native Americans or indigenous people of the Americas.

I would suggest a change to: "When Europeans arrived in the Texas region, there were several Native cultures divided into many smaller tribes. They were Caddoan, Atakapan, Athabaskan, Coahuiltecan, and Uto-Aztecan."

or simply: "When Europeans arrived in the Texas region, there were Native peoples divided into many smaller tribes. They were Caddoan, Atakapan, Athabaskan, Coahuiltecan, and Uto-Aztecan." Thanks in advance. 2600:1700:1111:5940:4977:EF9C:688E:517E (talk) 07:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)  Done You are right. I've changed the text to "When Europeans arrived in the Texas region, several different cultures of Native peoples, divided into many smaller tribes, were living there."

Ease of voting

I reverted an edit by User:Alza08 regarding the relative difficulty of voting in Texas. This editor has added rankings of the "easiest" and "hardest" states to vote in many US state articles, sourced by this article.

With language like "hardest state for citizens to vote in", for states like Kentucky, and "easiest state for citizens to vote in", at states like Maine, some readers may interpret this as a "better" or "worse" ranking. (at Iowa, the ranking was added to a section about "civil rights")

Why is this ranking important to Wikipedia's readers? This study shows there is little correlation between states with easier voting laws, and measures of electoral integrity. So how will Wikipedia's readers benefit from knowing how easy it is to vote in a state, when there is little benefit to easier voting? It would be like adding a chart to every US state showing which states have the "easiest" and "hardest" gun laws, without explaining there is little correlation between gun laws and quality of life.

Biden and the Democrats are pursuing easier voting laws, but only because it leads to more votes for Democrats. Should Wikipedia support this with an otherwise meaningless ranking on every state article?

The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

I have reworded a couple of those as the wording was rather poor. The reference is valid and the added content is not "meaningless". Vsmith (talk) 14:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
While the reference is valid, the drive-by manner in which it was added to all the state articles bothers me. This content belongs in the Elections in... articles, like Elections in Connecticut, where it is already located. I do not support it being added directly to the state articles, and especially not in this drive-by manner of adding a single sentence to every state article without any other context. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:56, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
"Meaningless" was indeed a poor description. It is meaningful information, just not on state articles. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:52, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
The wording should be XX easiest or YY most difficult to vote. I wonder if this ranking includes getting registered to vote and voting or just voting itself (Nevermind, seems more of the latter based on Vox article linked above). -Fnlayson (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for starting this discussion, I'm coming here from the article on Virginia after seeing a post on WP:USA. I also am bothered by the drive-by nature of slapping this ranking on every single state article in it's own paragraph, particular with the non-descriptive edit summary "expanded". I too was ready to revert the edit, but I read the source, and then instead worked the ranking into the Politics section, since what's apparently notable about VA is the change in ranking from 2016 to 2020 (49th to 12th). I'm not sure it needs to be on every state, as with most state rankings it's most relevant to those at the very top or very bottom. For those in the middle, maybe it would go on Elections in Connecticut if there's a relevant spot, as has been suggested, but not on Connecticut. As to whether this is partisan, I'm going to say "citation needed" to the claim that easier voting (i.e. higher turnout) helps one party over the other, that's probably a myth. But if you were going to include this ranking here on Texas, maybe at the end of the paragraph about Gerrymandering would make sense.-- Patrick Neil, oѺ∞/Talk 01:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)


Article https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/elj.2020.0666 ok how can i help Quiet2 (talk) 07:32, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Taxation line lacking valid citation

The first line of the third paragraph of the Taxation section reads:"Texas is a "tax donor state"; in 2005, for every dollar Texans paid to the federal government in federal income taxes, the state got back about $0.94 in benefits." This line is both perplexing and its citation does not provide this information. Reference 261 redirects to a page which links to many posts but contains no information on the page itself. I propose this line should be removed if another reference cannot be found and–if another reference is found–the sentence should be clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venusasaguy (talk • contribs) 14:44, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Demographic Section

There is no information on the "Demographics" section about Texas poverty rate, household or per capita income, age, or marital status. Most other state pages have this information alongside data on race and ethnicity — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdulrahimb (talk • contribs) 03:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Capitalization Errors

Needs the following capitalization errors fixed by someone with access. All the same word, almost as if someone was following the AP's racist guidelines instead of wikipedia's, and it's especially egregious because of how inconsistent it is:

1) Mid-20th to early 21st century - last sentence "Texas has the largest Black and African American population with over 3.9 million.[125]"

2) Race and Ethnicity - last sentence

"At the 2020 census, the racial and ethnic composition of the state was 42.5% white (39.7% non-Hispanic white), 11.8% Black or African American, 5.4% Asian, 0.3% American Indian and Alaska Native, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 13.6% some other race, 17.6% two or more races, and 39.3% Hispanic and Latino American of any race."

'Black' in the "Black or African American" should not be capitalized unless you're going to link it - in which case capitalize white as well.

3) Religion - 2nd paragraph

"Hispanic or Latino American-dominated Protestant churches and historically Black or African American Protestantism grew to a collective 13% of the Protestant population."

4) Politics - 2nd to last paragraph

"The state's changing demographics may result in a change in its overall political alignment, as a majority population of Black and Hispanic/Latino voters support the Democratic Party" — Preceding unsigned comment added by CapitalizationMan (talk • contribs) 19:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Spanish pronunciation

As the Spanish name (and a note regarding its two orthographic variants) has been re-added in the first sentence of the intro paragraph, I suggest to add the IPA pronunciation of the Spanish name along with an audio file of a Spanish speaker pronouncing it, just like the Spanish Wikipedia has it. I cannot add the IPA template nor the audio because the article is semi-protected. 181.64.13.125 (talk) 23:06, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Texas Slogan

Texas slogan is not The Friendly State, it is The Lone Star State. It's actually on the license plate. Wouldn't hate it if someone updated...👍✌️😃 50.209.105.17 (talk) 22:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2022

i want to edit cuz im a geoolgist and i know abt the world 2600:1700:1C11:C0:1577:B5B7:74E4:9A92 (talk) 03:04, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:08, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Texas Demographic

According to U.S. Census Bureau, Hispanics make up more than white in Texas, Hispanic Texans made up 40.2% of the state’s population in 2021 while non-Hispanic white Texans made up 39.4%, Texas is a state where hispanics are the largest group with California and New Mexico.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/15/texas-demographics-census-2021/#:~:text=Hispanic%20Texans%20are%20estimated%20to,from%20the%20U.S.%20Census%20Bureau. NancyArevaloss (talk) 00:44, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

@NancyArevaloss: Are you suggesting a change to the article? Elli (talk | contribs) 02:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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