Talk:The Australian Wars

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Did you know... that 2022 documentary The Australian Wars explores "the great Australian silence" about massacres of Indigenous Australians?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 14:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a week after The Australian Wars premiered in 2022, the Australian War Memorial said it would work to include "deeper ... presentation of the violence committed against Indigenous people"? Source: "The War Memorial chair, former Howard government minister Brendan Nelson, revealed the Memorial's governing council had decided they would have a "much broader, a much deeper depiction and presentation of the violence committed against Indigenous people, initially by British, then by pastoralists, then by police, and then by Aboriginal militia"." [1]
- ALT1: ... that 2022 documentary The Australian Wars has been called "essential viewing for all Australians"? Source: "Goodwin’s review: “Forget everything you think you know. The war between colonial forces and Australia’s First Nations people isn’t often spoken about and officials struggle to define the conflict as a war at all. Rachel Perkins shines a light on the most significant war on Australian soil, and one that forever changed the continent in her three-part, truth-telling docuseries that should be essential viewing for all Australians." [2]
- ALT2: ... that 2022 documentary The Australian Wars explores "the great Australian silence" about massacres of Indigenous Australians? Source: In her new SBS documentary series, Arrernte and Kalkadoon presenter Rachel Perkins explores the “great Australian silence” around Appin and the many other massacres that form Australia’s bloodiest 100 years. The Australian Wars lays out the unpalatable facts: soldiers, convicts and settlers made a grab for land in what many historians agree counts as a war – and yet no war in Australia was ever declared. [3]
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Created by Melcous (talk). Self-nominated at 13:51, 29 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Australian Wars, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Comment: The lead needs to summarise the contents of the rest of the article a bit more.

Thanks Gazozlu, I have added to the lead in an attempt to better summarise the article contents without making it long. Please let me know if you think that is ok or needs more work. Melcous (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now.--Gazozlu (talk) 03:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The best hook in my opinion is ALT2.--Gazozlu (talk) 21:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Gazozlu (talk) 02:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC) Approve all hooks although ALT2 is the most interesting. ALT1 seems too promotional, and the main hook is not interesting, or worded interestingly.[reply]

Gazozlu, while you have overall ticked yes, you have marked 'no' for length - could you please clarify this? Thanks Melcous (talk) 14:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Melcous The length requirement is 1500 characters, not 1500 bytes. The article is long enough after all, fixed it.--Gazozlu (talk) 15:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:@Melcous: To go with ALT2 a bit more detail/explanation/information inside the article about what Perkins means by "the great Australian silence" would be good. People will be clicking on this because they are curious about that so the article should explain it more.--Gazozlu (talk) 23:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Gazozlu I have added a wikilink that should explains more. Do you think that suffices? Melcous (talk) 03:47, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Melcous: Yes. --11:54, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]