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Picard's Stargazer model[edit]

Spike TV recently aired some 1st season episodes. The trivia here stated that the Stargazer model replaced a model of the Constitution Class ship in Picard's readyroom after this episode. But in the recent airings of "Where No One Has Gone Before" and "Lonely Among Us" which were aired today and produced before "The Battle", the Stargazer model was already in Picard's readyroom. Cyberia23 22:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to page 22 of Nemecek's ST:TNG Companion, the model was included in Picard's ready room from the beginning of the series. Prior to this episode, it was a work model that had not yet been approved for use, and was not stencilled with any ship name or number. -RJASE1 23:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Constellation-Class model was in Picard's ready room from "Encounter at Farpoint". It is abscent, replaced by a Constitution-Class model, in "The Battle", and one other episode--either preceding or after "The Battle"--before being restored. This was done because, during production of "The Battle", the Stargazer was envisioned to be a Constitution-Class starship, like the movie-era Enterprise Refit. The model in Picard's ready room was replaced to match this latest development. Then, after live footage of "The Battle" was filmed, the producers had second thoughts, and the Stargazer as we know it today (matching the original model in Picard's ready room) was created. The only remnents of this chain of events is that, for two episodes, the Constitution-Class model replaces the Constellation-Class model in Picard's ready room, for no appearent reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.60.155.67 (talk) 05:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hero of Maxia[edit]

The hyperlink to Hero of Maxia was self-recursive, leading back to the very article it was linked in (this one). I felt it therefore appropriate to delink it. 68.229.184.37 09:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, in the fifth paragraph in the Plot section, there is a link to the Picard Manuver that links back to the page, and I don't know how to delink. 74.132.112.167 20:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All you do to delink is remove the brackets. I already did it for you. Cyberia23 22:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Isn't it the policy of starfleet to auto-destruct a vessel than to simply abandon it and leave it adrift so that aliens can see the technology? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.235.217 (talk) 23:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shield Inconsistencies[edit]

There are three minor inconsistencies in this episode. First, the Ferengi captain orders shields up on the Stargazer and then beams back to his own ship through them. Next, communications are abruptly cut off with the Stargazer, and Geordie says "it must have been when the [Stargazer's] shields went up", but the shields had gone up well before the cutout. Lastly, at the end of the episode the captain beams out while the shields are (presumably) still raised.

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 03:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"The Stargazer was to originally be represented by the movie-era Enterprise model," -- Do you mean the Enterprise-A?

Well... the refitted Enterprise that originally appeared in the same film was the same model as they later used for the Enterprise-A. So I didn't want to specify A as it wouldn't have been quite correct. However, thinking of that now, the movie-era reference could be misleading as a new reader might think it was a reference to the new films by mistake. I'll edit it to say that it means the movie-era model first used in the Motion Picture. Miyagawa (talk) 11:21, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

" In this episode, Captain Picard (Patrick Stewart) is given his old command, the Stargazer," -- This should be reworded (Here, 'command' makes it sound like the Ferengi assigned Picard to captain a new ship)

Re-worded to avoid using command. Miyagawa (talk) 11:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"DaiMon Bok (Frank Corsentino) who intends to use it as part of a trap to discredit and destroy the Enterprise captain." -- the plot section doesn't clarify this. If this is what appears in the episode, though, I think it would be better than just saying Bok wanted "revenge."

Changed to revenge as suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 11:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In Plot you at times alternate between using just last names and first names (Picard and Crusher vs. Geordi LaForge) Please make consistent.

Done - also made sure the lead was the same too. Miyagawa (talk) 11:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redundancy: "Picard appears back on the Enterprise and appears normal. "

Removed. Miyagawa (talk) 11:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For continuity, you might want to note in Production the next time the Ferengi appear.

I'll have to double check the books tonight - I think after this episode they changed the way that the Ferengi appeared on screen, and they were no longer used as "baddies" but instead more for comedic effect. I'm sure one of the books will make reference to this. Miyagawa (talk) 11:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"The term "Picard Maneuver" was later used to also refer to Patrick Stewart's habit of tugging his uniform shirt down," -- Informally and not on screen, I assume

Yep, but I wish it was! I'll edit that line to make that clear. Miyagawa (talk) 11:21, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found no duplicate links. Disambiguation links all look good. External links all look good.
I don't see any problems with article stability or neutrality.

Placing the article on hold pending a few improvements. —Ed!^(talk) 22:05, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One nitpicking thing that I have a reference for but isn't in the article is that prior to the episode before this, the model of the Stargazer in Picard's ready room was the model that would become Constellation-class. However, because they planned to re-use the Constitution-class model, during the previous episode and this episode, the model in the ready room is actually a Constitution-class ship, and not the same class of the Stargazer which would be inserted in post production. I just thought it was too trivia-ish to include. Miyagawa (talk) 11:59, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'd think that would be trivia. If you really like, it might fit in "production." —Ed!^(talk) 14:06, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great work! Passing the GA now. —Ed!^(talk) 14:06, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2003:E0:8F08:2593:E09D:1B0D:95AE:B3E7 (talk) 05:05, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

mon contraire, must you always be so temporal ethical - no - why is it about being superior[edit]

My fish, myself, my crew and the rock bottom ship. What is it you,re after.

You mustn’t find out for now - wherever that is with you mind bending accusations.

Karaoke in speech

- court case Picard against the low dim countiuum.