Talk:The Fall of Colossus

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Odd Continuity[edit]

No argument at all that "Fall of Colossus" begins five years after Colossus ended.

However, there are some strange continuity problems that should not be ignored.

1. Doctor Cleopatra "Cleo" Markham Forbin was thirty-five in Colossus. Cleo Markham, thirty-five and a leading cyberneticist of Project Colossus, was wearing a shower cap, and nothing else, when Forbin burst into her sitting room without knocking. (p. 43 of the Ebook Chapter 5)

In Fall, she is 28. Cleo got up reluctantly from the breakfast table. An attractive, rather tall, blue-eyed blonde of twenty-eight, she appeared at first sight to be a typical cold Nordic woman. Forbin would have disagreed violently with this verdict; he knew she could be loving, tender. p. 9

2. Colossus appears to be set in the 1990s, Colossus has gone on where Hoyle left off over thirty years ago! Colossus, p. 76 (see the talk page for more).

In "Fall" references to the twenty-second century as being the current period appear in several places, with references to the 20th and 21st as the past. In her eyes, the eyes of a woman of the second half of the twenty-second century, he was an attractive male. p. 8

Cleo on his arm, staring in disbelief and amazement at the silver cutlery, the gold plate, and the incredible gadgetry designed to reduce human help to a minimum. Even for the twenty-second century, it was fantastic. p. 11

At some point in the late twentieth or early twenty-first century, the researchers had given up or, more probably, been merged with a larger and even more secret center somewhere else. p. 60

The word “love” plus the relative rarity of marriage in the twenty-second century, triggered Colossus Emotional. p. 67

That a sane man—and he was—could, in the second half of the twenty-second century, think of nothing but work, sex, food, and sleep was incredible. p.99 and more. SteveJEsposito (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2016 (UTC) SteveJEsposito (talk) 23:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

not surprised. I just read the (first) book on internet archive and I see this is one of those cases where the movie is far better than the book. The success of the movie led to the sequel books which are even worse than the original. The movie of course is excellent. The thing that is a constant in both is the personality of the computer which is more developed in the book. Continuity, human character elements are pretty crappy/hackneyed and the general impression is of 3rd rate SF of the time or ftm this one where there's a lot more of it. 98.4.103.219 (talk) 05:26, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]