Talk:The Gauntlet and Grim Hunt

Comics: Marvel / Spider-Man Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Comics, a collaborative effort to build an encyclopedic guide to comics on Wikipedia. Get involved! If you would like to participate, you can help with the current tasks, visit the notice board, edit the attached article or discuss it at the project's talk page.ComicsWikipedia:WikiProject ComicsTemplate:WikiProject ComicsComics articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Related work groups:
/
	This article is supported by Marvel Comics work group.
	This article is supported by Spider-Man work group.

Name[edit]

There is no evidence this is called "Enter the Gauntlet", that just appears to be the name of an article over on IGN [1]. Everything, including the quotes and the image refer to it as "The Gauntlet" or simply "Gauntlet". So I'd recommend moving this to either The Gauntlet (comics) or Spider-Man: The Gauntlet. (Emperor (talk) 16:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

All interviews with involved creators, and even the image on the page, refer to it as The Gauntlet. I'll move it. It can be moved back if someone finds a legitimate source, but that is doubtful as Enter the Gauntlet is not the name. --Spidey104^contribs 22:01, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doublechecking - I was unsure if I'd missed anything. (Emperor (talk) 23:20, 27 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

shortening[edit]

The Mysterioso section should probably be shortened. It is a lot longer than other sections in the article. Nothing major, but some good paraphrasing would be nice. I'll try to do it myself when I get the time, but since I might not get that time for a while I'm posting this in the hope someone else will do it. --Spidey104^contribs 19:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've shortened it somewhat, but it probably could be shortened more. --Spidey104^contribs 21:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grim Hunt into The Gauntlet merge proposal[edit]

The Grim Hunt is basically a conclusion to The Gauntlet storyline. Yes, I realize that they are separate storylines, but they are so intimately related to each other that they should be in one article and not split into two. I only proposed the merge into The Gauntlet article because it was easier to do and because that article is longer. A better solution may be to merge them into one article with something like "The Gauntlet and Grim Hunt" as the title, or something else. They should not be separate articles. Spidey104^contribs 14:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose "The Gauntlet" is already a meta-story arc covering over twenty issues, and the Amazing Spider-Man covers alone show that Marvel is promoting "Grim Hunt" as an important storyline.--May Cause Dizziness (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the issues are important, otherwise I would have nominated the Grim Hunt article for deletion instead of a merge. I am arguing that the two storylines are so closely linked together (you can't fully understand the story of one without knowing about the other) that they belong together and not separately. Spidey104^contribs 02:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was merged by an anonymous user. Since debate is not settled, I unmerged it.--May Cause Dizziness (talk) 19:29, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - the article is almost 100% plot and has no justification for why this storyline is more notable than any other one and we can't just include them automatically. That said Grim Hunt isn't part of The Gauntlet and seems to also include a one-shot [2], so if you can find more out-of-universe information that underlines why this storyline is important then I'd be prepared to change my suggestion, but until then it has to be a merge. (Emperor (talk) 23:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Merge, shorten and rewrite to Wiki "Writing about fiction" standard - No reason to parse this material so minutely. That's only of concern to fans, and this is not a fan site but an encyclopedia article. The general non-fan reader looking for the basic, essential information doesn't need or want so much dense, time-consuming data where there's little or no context to help him or her discern what the the most significant, salient facts are. I agree completely with (Emperor that real-world material is needed to give a sense of why any of this make-believe story matters to anyone but hardcore fans. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After a month of waiting for more opinions I think it is reasonable to close this discussion with a 3-to-1 consensus to MERGE the articles back together. I will also move the article to a title that is more appropriate for the merged nature. Tenebrae makes a good point and effort needs to be taken to show why this is notable with real-world comments, context, etc. Spidey104^contribs 19:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]