Talk:The James Young High School

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I feel that the information I give is constructive and has more depth than the previous edits. I am an ex-student and I know the building inside out. If you are going to revert to previous edits please give a more credible reason. Thanks and have a nice day. C

recent edits.[edit]

The full list of staff seems a little much. I think the head and senior management team should be in the article though. Possibly the heads of each subject too though I am not married to the idea.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 20:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like that idea. Unfortunately each department does not have a specific head but a group of departments have a PT or PTC such as Mrs Watkins covers Modern Languages and English whilst Miss McTiernanr covers all social subjects...I could add this and maybe the 3 extra curricular PTC's (PTC Global Citzenship etc)? Also what do you think about adding a section about the achievement of the 3rd green flag? I would have to search for online references however as I just know it from my knowledge... Danielj27052705 (talk) 22:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, exactly, you would have to find third-party sources (ie not from the school) to verify this. --John (talk) 22:51, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Either. --John (talk) 09:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about this for the Staff?[edit]

I have still to add references though

Staff[edit]

The school has over 100 members of staff and there are the select few who are considered a PTC or Senior Staff.

Senior Staff

  • Mrs C Hatch- Headteacher
  • Mrs E Jessiman- Deputy Head Teacher, Curriculum
  • Mrs C Kendall- Deputy Head Teacher, Pupil Support
  • Mrs Y Lawton- Business support management

Pupil Support Manager

  • Mrs Mackie

Principal Teacher Curriculum- Subjects

  • Mrs S Watkins
  • Mrs S Reid
  • Mr D McMillan
  • Miss McTiernanr
  • Mrs Sim
  • Mr B Dobson
  • Mr Sammons

Principal Teachers Curriculum- Pupil Support

  • Mrs N Janetta 
  • Mrs G Hope
  • Mr P Caddick
  • Mr G Owen
  • Only the Senior Staff would be notable for our purposes. --John (talk) 15:42, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- These are the senior Staff members although the senior staff is further split into management (the first 4 names) and PTC's (the rest of the list) Danielj27052705 (talk) 17:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    • I know. Put it this way, can extensive third-party sources be found for the others? If not, they cannot be included. --John (talk) 18:06, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about saying along with it- There are also 7 PTC's for Curriclum and 4 PTC's for Pupil Support. This isn't to vague, doesn't mention names and is very short? Danielj27052705 (talk) 20:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that seems ok. --John (talk) 21:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Academic Achievement/ Awards[edit]

I was thinking of including a section on the academic achievement level of the school (i.e matching national average) and also I could include the 3rd Green Flag information and other achiemnets the school has made. Very similar to this section in Hanley Castle High School http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanley_Castle_High_School#Academic_achievement

Which is nominated for good articles award and therefore the sections should not be deemed not appropriate for James Young. Also in the article I can self cite myself for some information due to WP:COS Danielj27052705 (talk) 21:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You'll notice in that section you refer to there are good sources. Good sources are the key. Do you have good sources? --John (talk) 21:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For the green flag I have many sources including DEEP, West Lothian Council, Eco Schools Scotland (the awarders of the flag) and Green Business Partnership. These with the a single Personal Citation should be enough, should it not? Danielj27052705 (talk) 21:41, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The personal citation isn't a factor. See WP:NOR. The GF is fine. Do you have sources for the academic stuff?--John (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I will use another source I found. I have not yet looked up the academic refrences as I have been quite busy- but I will look soon for them and tell you the websites. Right now I should be getting to bed. It is 11 at night in Britain. Haha Danielj27052705 (talk) 22:08, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added![edit]

Added the Staff section and a couple of little things in the side box thing (all with references, not only from the school).

I also was wanting to add the fact that S5 wears blazers to the little section on school dress but I only have a reference on the schools website. Is this still OK to add it? Danielj27052705 (talk) 22:06, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had already added it in more concise form, as I noted above. No, I wouldn't think that worth adding. It isn't that unusual. --John (talk) 22:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is considered unusual for it to be required- especially how no proximal schools enforce this Danielj27052705 (talk) 23:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC).[reply]
Well, if you can find sources to that effect, we could include it. --John (talk) 23:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Founder[edit]

James Young could not have been the founder as he died 100 years before the school was founded. --John (talk) 22:25, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How would one say name after or created in honur of? Danielj27052705 (talk) 23:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just "named after" is fine. --John (talk) 23:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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