Talk:The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State

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Chris Knight and the Cows[edit]

Chris Knight's ideas about early kinship are hardly relevant for the article on Engels' book. Knight's ideas also do not show that there is a general tendency in Anthropology to accept Morgan's theory of matrilineality as the original form of kinship. At most it shows his opinion that it is so. In any case Knight's work is not of central relevance for someone who wants to know about Engels' The Origin of the Family. I don't think it should be included. The same is the case for the mention of the article on the socioecology of pastoralism - it doesn't show that the idea that "cows are the enemy of matrilineality" is "borne out strongly by modern anthropology". It is one article arguing for such a connection. This is not enough to turn around a century of findings to the effect that one cannot show kinship structures to be determined by material conditions.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 14:59, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck?[edit]

With this sentence starting with the word "When", what the heck does it mean? It appears to be nonsense. Where is the dependent clause?

When nonhuman primate society and earliest human society, identifying sexual competition and the "jealousy of the male" as the vital issue that needed to be overcome to allow the emergence of the oldest form of family involving "group marriage". -- Cdw ♥'s(talk) 21:45, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

where did you come up with that rule? The Declaration of Independence begins "When in the course of human events . . ." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.219.186 (talk) 18:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Awkward sentence. Needs polishing up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.68.252 (talk) 01:02, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Origin of ..., in html5.id.toc.preview format[edit]

I published the book in this format at http://synagonism.net/book/society/engels.1884.origin.html with these advantages:

  • (html5) no special programs to read it. Also structured for humans and machines.
  • (id) anyone can refer to ANY PART of it, because all html-elements have IDs.
  • (toc) automatically created expandable table-of-contents makes reading easy.
  • (preview) link-preview makes reading fast.

Because I do not want to be accused that I promote myself, IF you find it worthwhile, please put it on the external-links of this article. Synagonism (talk) 06:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article images[edit]

Carrite, are you sure the article really needs pictures of English-language translations of Engels's book. They do seem superfluous, especially the later English edition edited by Evelyn Reed. If it were solely up to me, I would remove them both as unnecessary. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 00:37, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gabriel Yuji, for finally removing the cover of the Evelyn Reed edition of the book. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:18, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reception[edit]

What was/is the reception of this text? --105.0.6.190 (talk) 13:24, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, there should be a section called 'Legacy' or 'Reception' detailing what is the modern scholarly consensus on this book. 83.32.150.110 (talk) 12:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]