Talk:The Parable of the Old Man and the Young

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"It is mainly the power of this image, set out in the poem and culminating in the last two lines, that makes it one of the best war poems ever written." I'm pretty sure that's POV. Not that I disagree, but does that kind of judgement call belong in an encyclopaedia?

I wrote that originally, and you're quite right, it's POV. Changed it to "... makes it haunting." Still POV, of course, but a more ... modest claim. Sietse (talk) 00:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The poem is called 'The parable of the Old Men and the Young'. Owen was a competent enough wordsmith that refering the Old Men (the leaders of Europe)is stronger than refering to the Old Man (Abram). The singular does not have the same implication of betrayl when taken in context.

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It says in the first paragraph of the article that the poem was originally published without the last line.

When was the last line ("And half the seed of Europe, one by one") added to the poem? Are there multiple versions? When was the version including this line first published?

MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]