Talk:The Rape of Lucrece

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Tagged for tone[edit]

The article reads somewhat like an essay on the poem instead of an article about it. The article Venus and Adonis (Shakespeare poem) is a good model for this one.

I agree: verbiage like this – "The linguistic excess of Shakespeare’s Lucrece is indicative of a new poetics in which the materiality of language itself disrupts a rhetorical tradition oriented toward pure idealisation" – should be kept behind closed post-structuralist doors. Ericoides (talk) 20:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rephrased tagged section for greater clarity. Trixi72 (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Other raped women?[edit]

Who are Shakespeare's other raped women? I think that should be in there. I honestly can't think of any. Closest I get is the near-rape at the end of Two Gentlemen of Verona. Wrad 19:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Titus's daughter, I guess. Paul B 01:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I just read that today, any others? Wrad 03:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess Miranda is nearly raped by Caliban in The Tempest. Wrad 18:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the classic stage direction might be the way to include Lavinia: "Enter the empress' sons with Lavinia, her hands cut off, and her tongue cut out, and ravish'd" - Titus Andronicus. Act II, scene IV. - Nunh-huh 01:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Allusion in Twelfth Night[edit]

In Act 2 Scene v of Twelfth Night, Maria has penned a false love letter from (as he is meant to surmise) Malvolio's mistress & sealed it with her Lucrece. Presumably, this is an antique pagan seal image intaglio perhaps set in a ring. The Lucrece pagan myth may actually pun on Maria (as in the Virgin Mary of Christianity) but only through an heretical twist on the rape. 124.188.100.155 (talk) 09:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC) Ian Ison[reply]

The "Raped Woman" section[edit]

I removed “The raped woman” section. It is unsourced original research, and has been tagged for a long time. The content of the brief section is: “Lucrece is described as if she were a work of art. Tarquin's rape of her is described as if she were a fortress under attack—conquering her various physical attributes. Although Lucrece is raped, the poem offers an apology to absolve her of guilt (lines 1240–1246). [sic] Like Shakespeare's other raped women, Lucrece gains symbolic value: through her suicide, her body metamorphoses into a political symbol.” Oxcross (talk) 11:52, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]