Talk:The Rebel (book)

I have cleaned up this article to some extent, making it conform more to the appropriate format, but this really needs extra editting from someone who has read the book, and understands the themes. Some of the grammar in this article is confusing, and it isn't quite clear what is being said, for example, in the third paragraph, I am unsure precisely which 'ideas' Camus has supposedly 'rejected'. Prometheus912 07:04, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Don't forget to add "The Rebel" the tv series from 1959.

revisions

"Material idealism" makes no sense. The link leads to "materialism" which begins by pointing out that idealism is antithetical to it. It needs to be either removed or substantiated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.68.82 (talk) 05:05, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm reading this book right now, and have started revising the page. The revisions are considerable, partially to remove the 'book-report' feel that the previous version had.

One thing I have removed that I'm not sure about is the claim that Camus misrepresents 'to some extent' the philosophy of Max Stirner. I'm working on getting a copy of The Ego and Its Own but haven't had luck yet. Can someone provide a citation/more information about this? --Andymussell 02:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I want to rewrite this entry, and infact, have never posted to Wiki. However, this page is quite shallow, and by extension, inaccurate. Several major themes are not mentioned, and the main theme (that of rebellion) is poorly described. Based on the current content, Andymussell was right to remove the Stirner comment. Camus does criticize Striner in 'the Rebel', but whether or not it is misrepresentation is a complex matter that has no place in a 100 word summary of the book. If I have time I will attempt to add/edit the page.

I thoroughly agree that this entry is very shallow; any help you can give to deepen it is appreciated. I've tracked down a copy of Stirner's work and am reading it currently.--Andymussell 01:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I just finished reading this book, and for my own benefit took pretty extensive notes in the process. I agree that this page needs some pretty intensive revisions. I'd like to help rewrite it but I know there's a pretty strict rule against utilizing independent research, but there's very little on the internet worth using and I'm not in possession of any scholarly works or analysis, neither have I seen any in a library... does that mean I cannot contribute in any way to the content of this article? I'd appreciate some input back regarding this, because I do feel like this was an important book and deserves a better wiki page than this. Alex8541 (talk) 12:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Literal translation of title

I removed a note about 'The man in revolt' being perhaps a more literal translation of the title as I could find no evidence for it. 'Révolté' is a French adjective meaning 'rebellious' or 'outraged', so it seems a more literal translation ought to be "The rebellious man", which is in effect the same as the actual title "The Rebel". Raylin (talk) 09:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Anarchy

From the main article: "At the end of this book Camus exposes the superiority of the ethics and political plan of anarchism." I disagree with this entirely. The last chapter of the Rebel does not espouse, well... anything related to anarchy. I don't have a copy of the book in front of me, but if I remember the last few paragraphs, it's more a vision of solidarity than anarchy. Anyone agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.166.243 (talk • contribs) 02:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Split with Sartre

The book marked the break between Camus and J-P Sartre; Sartre still believing that change thru violence was acceptable, Camus realising that it could make the freedom that followed one of "servitude and terror" (think of most of Africa and Asia since then). As a result the book had a bad review in Sartre's journal Les Temps modernes, adding unfairly that Camus had "a dislike of intellectual complexity". Ouch.78.16.68.159 (talk) 12:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)