Talk:The Undertones/Archive 1

Archive 1

NPOV

Come on... there is no way this conforms to NPOV standards. My main problem here is with "Sharkey's power pop tenor was unique, and the band was very tight." You have got to be kidding me. The article in general also seems to be a bit one-sided to me. If this article is going to quote people praising The Undertones, shouldn't it also have a section on criticism of the group? I can see that this has been a NPOV issue more than one time before by looking at the history. --Mask 00:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

• I've had a go at addressing your concerns. I'm not a fan by the way. Can only recall Teenage Kicks and Sharkey's Solo "It Never Happens To Me" or whatever it was called. --bodnotbod 16:18, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Pop punk / power pop / punk rock

Is there any substantiation to confirm that this band was labeled "pop punk" in 1977 as the article claims? Please provide hard references to back up this claim. Thanks! Xsxex 07:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• I don't think the term "pop punk" was already coined in '77... --193.175.191.197 23:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

pop punk or punk pop was used to describe bands like the Jam, but it wasn't really taken to mean a full-blown distinct genre. in 77 punk was focused on the discarding of labels, not the creation of new ones.

Paul McLoone

Whoever keeps removing my additions regarding the BAND'S CURRENT SINGER, Paul McLoone, should stop. Just because you don't think the current lineup is credible, doesen't make you eligible to remove factual information. Tom 18:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

'Only punk band'

The reference given for their being "the only punk band in Ireland" says no such thing. And they may have been the only punk band in Ireland in 1976 (which would make them one of the first punk bands anywhere), but they wouldn't have the title long; Stiff Little Fingers started playing punk in 1978.

Radiators from Space, Boomtown Rats, Rudi, and the Outcasts all predate the Undertones on stage AND on vinyl, by one or more years! The Teenage Kicks EP was the FOURTH release on Good Vibrations. True, the Undertones existed on an amateur/school band level in '76, but as far as the Irish punk scene was concerned, they were provincial AND second-wave. Their naive unoriginality was in my opinion part of their appeal. They weren't iconclastic avant-garde rebels, but sweet kids humbly imitating their idols.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.125.35.75 (talk) 17:01, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Northern Irish

Could Rumpabumpa explain what makes a band formed in Northern Ireland not Northern Irish, but instead the unspecific "Irish"? Continual removal of this information without attempting to discuss is not profitable. You may find this essay a useful guideline. Thanks. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 22:28, 28 November 2008 (UTC)